style="border-collapse: collapse" bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"

[Michael]

Hi,

not sure what the style ..

style="border-collapse: collapse" bordercolor="#111111"
id="AutoNumber1"

does ? (except for border color of course ) )

but I would like to get rid of it unless it's important as it's not
compatible with a lot of browers.

have looked thru the help (FP XP) but can't discover how to remove it.

any help would be appreciated.

thanks

Michael

 

[Jens Peter Karlsen[FP MVP]]

It collapses the border. What Browsers have you encountered where it
gives problems? I don't know of any!

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

 

[Michael]

I checked a page at http://www.fixingyourwebsite.com/drhtml.html which
seems to be the best verification page that I've found so far.

There was a browser conflict problem without almost every browser
because of the "style" tag.

The only "style" tag that I had was the one below.

Maybe I'm adding 2+2 and getting 5 ?

Anyway supposing I don't want "collapsed borders" or the addition of
"auto number" - how do I stop it from being automatically added ?

thanks

Michael

It collapses the border. What Browsers have you encountered where it
gives problems? I don't know of any!

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: 20. februar 2005 20:51
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"
Subject: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"


Hi,

not sure what the style ..

style="border-collapse: collapse" bordercolor="#111111"
id="AutoNumber1"

does ? (except for border color of course ) )

but I would like to get rid of it unless it's important as
it's not compatible with a lot of browers.

have looked thru the help (FP XP) but can't discover how to remove it.

any help would be appreciated.

thanks

Michael

 

[Jens Peter Karlsen[FP MVP]]

I would suggest you try to use http://validator.w3.org/ instead.
In Table Properties uncheck "Collapse table border".
In Tools | Page options uncheck "Assign uniquee ID's to new Tables"

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: 21. februar 2005 08:34
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"
Subject: Re: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"


I checked a page at
http://www.fixingyourwebsite.com/drhtml.html which seems to
be the best verification page that I've found so far.

There was a browser conflict problem without almost every
browser because of the "style" tag.

The only "style" tag that I had was the one below.

Maybe I'm adding 2+2 and getting 5 ?

Anyway supposing I don't want "collapsed borders" or the
addition of "auto number" - how do I stop it from being
automatically added ?

thanks

Michael

It collapses the border. What Browsers have you encountered where it
gives problems? I don't know of any!

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:[email protected]] Posted At: 20. februar
2005 20:51 Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"
Subject: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"


Hi,

not sure what the style ..

style="border-collapse: collapse" bordercolor="#111111"
id="AutoNumber1"

does ? (except for border color of course ) )

but I would like to get rid of it unless it's important as it's not
compatible with a lot of browers.

have looked thru the help (FP XP) but can't discover how to remove it.

any help would be appreciated.

thanks

Michael

 

[Michael]

thanks very much !

Although my version of FP updated with Office XP it still left me with
FP 2002 which doesn't allow for the changes below.

I did find a third party plug in which gets rid of the auto-collapse
upon "save".

Will try the validator ..

regards,

Michael

I would suggest you try to use http://validator.w3.org/ instead.
In Table Properties uncheck "Collapse table border".
In Tools | Page options uncheck "Assign uniquee ID's to new Tables"

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: 21. februar 2005 08:34
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"
Subject: Re: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"


I checked a page at
http://www.fixingyourwebsite.com/drhtml.html which seems to
be the best verification page that I've found so far.

There was a browser conflict problem without almost every
browser because of the "style" tag.

The only "style" tag that I had was the one below.

Maybe I'm adding 2+2 and getting 5 ?

Anyway supposing I don't want "collapsed borders" or the
addition of "auto number" - how do I stop it from being
automatically added ?

thanks

Michael

It collapses the border. What Browsers have you encountered where it
gives problems? I don't know of any!

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:[email protected]] Posted At: 20. februar
2005 20:51 Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"
Subject: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"


Hi,

not sure what the style ..

style="border-collapse: collapse" bordercolor="#111111"
id="AutoNumber1"

does ? (except for border color of course ) )

but I would like to get rid of it unless it's important as it's not
compatible with a lot of browers.

have looked thru the help (FP XP) but can't discover how to remove it.

any help would be appreciated.

thanks

Michael

 

[Michael]

Hi Jens,

just thought that I would let you know that I went back to

http://www.fixingyourwebsite.com/drhtml.html and checked to see which
browsers it says don't recognize

style="border-collapse: collapse"

it says NS 3,4,6,7

regards and thanks,

Michael

I would suggest you try to use http://validator.w3.org/ instead.
In Table Properties uncheck "Collapse table border".
In Tools | Page options uncheck "Assign uniquee ID's to new Tables"

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: 21. februar 2005 08:34
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"
Subject: Re: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"


I checked a page at
http://www.fixingyourwebsite.com/drhtml.html which seems to
be the best verification page that I've found so far.

There was a browser conflict problem without almost every
browser because of the "style" tag.

The only "style" tag that I had was the one below.

Maybe I'm adding 2+2 and getting 5 ?

Anyway supposing I don't want "collapsed borders" or the
addition of "auto number" - how do I stop it from being
automatically added ?

thanks

Michael

It collapses the border. What Browsers have you encountered where it
gives problems? I don't know of any!

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:[email protected]] Posted At: 20. februar
2005 20:51 Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"
Subject: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"


Hi,

not sure what the style ..

style="border-collapse: collapse" bordercolor="#111111"
id="AutoNumber1"

does ? (except for border color of course ) )

but I would like to get rid of it unless it's important as it's not
compatible with a lot of browers.

have looked thru the help (FP XP) but can't discover how to remove it.

any help would be appreciated.

thanks

Michael

 

[Jens Peter Karlsen[FP MVP]]

For version 3 and 4 it is likely correct as these are ancient. Even if 6
and 7 also doesn't understand it (Version 7 at least should) it wont
give errors as they will just ignore it. Besides Netscape accounts for
about 1% of browsers used today.
Now, if it didn't work in Firefox you would have some cause for concern.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: 23. februar 2005 11:49
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"
Subject: Re: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"


Hi Jens,

just thought that I would let you know that I went back to

http://www.fixingyourwebsite.com/drhtml.html and checked to
see which browsers it says don't recognize

style="border-collapse: collapse"

it says NS 3,4,6,7

regards and thanks,

Michael

I would suggest you try to use http://validator.w3.org/ instead.
In Table Properties uncheck "Collapse table border".
In Tools | Page options uncheck "Assign uniquee ID's to new Tables"

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:[email protected]] Posted At: 21. februar
2005 08:34 Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"
Subject: Re: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"


I checked a page at
http://www.fixingyourwebsite.com/drhtml.html which seems to be the
best verification page that I've found so far.

There was a browser conflict problem without almost every browser
because of the "style" tag.

The only "style" tag that I had was the one below.

Maybe I'm adding 2+2 and getting 5 ?

Anyway supposing I don't want "collapsed borders" or the addition of
"auto number" - how do I stop it from being automatically added ?

thanks

Michael


On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 01:33:41 +0100, "Jens Peter Karlsen[FP MVP]"

It collapses the border. What Browsers have you encountered where it
gives problems? I don't know of any!

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:[email protected]] Posted At:
20. februar
2005 20:51 Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"
Subject: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"


Hi,

not sure what the style ..

style="border-collapse: collapse" bordercolor="#111111"
id="AutoNumber1"

does ? (except for border color of course ) )

but I would like to get rid of it unless it's important as
it's not
compatible with a lot of browers.

have looked thru the help (FP XP) but can't discover how
to remove it.

any help would be appreciated.

thanks

Michael

 

[Michael]

Hi Jens,

of course you're right about Netscape and Firefox

just following up on this because I came across an HTML site which
seems very complete .. and might be of interest to others ...

http://www.htmlref.com/

his comments on border-collapse are quite interesting, as is much of
what he expains,

regards and thanks,

Mike

This CSS2 property defines if table cell borders are connected or
separate. Allowed values are separate and collapse. With a value of
collapse, the borders appear to collapse on each other so that there's
no more spacing between the borders. A rendering here in Internet
Explorer 6 should illustrate the idea of the property.


Example


<table border="1" style="border-collapse: collapse;">
<tr>
<td>Cell 1</td><td>Cell 2</td><td>Cell 3</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Cell 4</td><td></td><td>Cell 5</td>
</tr>
</table>

Browser and CSS Support Notes

CSS2
IE 5, 5.5, 6 (buggy)
Nav 6, 7
Opera 5, 6, 7
TIP There are significant rendering differences in browsers even when
the border-collapse property is supported.

For version 3 and 4 it is likely correct as these are ancient. Even if 6
and 7 also doesn't understand it (Version 7 at least should) it wont
give errors as they will just ignore it. Besides Netscape accounts for
about 1% of browsers used today.
Now, if it didn't work in Firefox you would have some cause for concern.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: 23. februar 2005 11:49
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"
Subject: Re: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"


Hi Jens,

just thought that I would let you know that I went back to

http://www.fixingyourwebsite.com/drhtml.html and checked to
see which browsers it says don't recognize

style="border-collapse: collapse"

it says NS 3,4,6,7

regards and thanks,

Michael

I would suggest you try to use http://validator.w3.org/ instead.
In Table Properties uncheck "Collapse table border".
In Tools | Page options uncheck "Assign uniquee ID's to new Tables"

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:[email protected]] Posted At: 21. februar
2005 08:34 Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"
Subject: Re: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"


I checked a page at
http://www.fixingyourwebsite.com/drhtml.html which seems to be the
best verification page that I've found so far.

There was a browser conflict problem without almost every browser
because of the "style" tag.

The only "style" tag that I had was the one below.

Maybe I'm adding 2+2 and getting 5 ?

Anyway supposing I don't want "collapsed borders" or the addition of
"auto number" - how do I stop it from being automatically added ?

thanks

Michael


On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 01:33:41 +0100, "Jens Peter Karlsen[FP MVP]"

It collapses the border. What Browsers have you encountered where it
gives problems? I don't know of any!

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:[email protected]] Posted At:
20. februar
2005 20:51 Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"
Subject: style="border-collapse: collapse"
bordercolor="#111111" id="AutoNumber1"


Hi,

not sure what the style ..

style="border-collapse: collapse" bordercolor="#111111"
id="AutoNumber1"

does ? (except for border color of course ) )

but I would like to get rid of it unless it's important as
it's not
compatible with a lot of browers.

have looked thru the help (FP XP) but can't discover how
to remove it.

any help would be appreciated.

thanks

Michael