Suggestion for improving hyphenation

R

Roald

I would want to be able to type a word like "fotball[soft hyphen]lag" or
"blikk[soft hyphen]krus", and then they should look like "fotballag" and
"blikkrus" when fitting on a line, but when Word needs to split them in two
lines, the missing l and k would appear:
fotball-
lag
blikk-
krus
The Norwegian language has a lot of words that are combined by other words.
(Fotball = football, lag = team.) When such a combination would create three
of the same letter in a row, one of the letters should not show, but both two
words will be written in full when they get split on different lines. I do
not know if this rule also exists in other languages, but I think Word should
be adapted to handle this.
 
M

MyVeryOwnSelf

I would want to be able to type a word like "fotball[soft hyphen]lag"
or "blikk[soft hyphen]krus", and then they should look like
"fotballag" and "blikkrus" when fitting on a line, but when Word needs
to split them in two lines, the missing l and k would appear:
fotball-
lag
blikk-
krus

Sounds like what's called an "optional hyphen" in Word 2003 (English). It's
entered by CTRL+HYPHEN.


The Norwegian language has a lot of words that are combined by other
words. (Fotball = football, lag = team.) When such a combination would
create three of the same letter in a row, one of the letters should
not show, but both two words will be written in full when they get
split on different lines. I do not know if this rule also exists in
other languages, but I think Word should be adapted to handle this.

I don't know how to do this.
 
R

Roald

Thank you for replying, but:
1. I know how to enter a "soft hyphen" or "optional hyphen".
2. I don't think there is a way to do what I suggested, but I was hoping
someone could add that function to Word (in the next version, or in all older
versions if possible). That is, there should be an option to tell Word that
"xx-x" with soft/optional hyphen will appear as "xx", not "xxx".
--
RS


MyVeryOwnSelf said:
I would want to be able to type a word like "fotball[soft hyphen]lag"
or "blikk[soft hyphen]krus", and then they should look like
"fotballag" and "blikkrus" when fitting on a line, but when Word needs
to split them in two lines, the missing l and k would appear:
fotball-
lag
blikk-
krus

Sounds like what's called an "optional hyphen" in Word 2003 (English). It's
entered by CTRL+HYPHEN.


The Norwegian language has a lot of words that are combined by other
words. (Fotball = football, lag = team.) When such a combination would
create three of the same letter in a row, one of the letters should
not show, but both two words will be written in full when they get
split on different lines. I do not know if this rule also exists in
other languages, but I think Word should be adapted to handle this.

I don't know how to do this.
 
K

Klaus Linke

Roald said:
Thank you for replying, but:
1. I know how to enter a "soft hyphen" or "optional hyphen".
2. I don't think there is a way to do what I suggested, but I was hoping
someone could add that function to Word (in the next version, or in all
older
versions if possible). That is, there should be an option to tell Word
that
"xx-x" with soft/optional hyphen will appear as "xx", not "xxx".

It isn't guaranteed that a Microsoft employee will monitor the newsgroup...
and even if, it doesn't seem too likely s/he'll forward the issue to those
responsible for the Norwegian localization.

Maybe in addition to your suggestion here, you might try to send it as
feedback on the MS website?
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?LN=no&gprid=11377

Regards,
Klaus
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

FWIW, I passed Roald's suggestion along to a contact in the Natural Language
Group (which owns proofing tools).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org
 
P

Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com

If you check out the "about language settings" tab in the MS Office 2007
language settings (or the similar one for O2003), you should find the name of
the company that provides the "hyphenator" for your language. With that
information, you may be able to find more up-to-date software that gives you
what you want.

Pam

Klaus said:
Thank you for replying, but:
1. I know how to enter a "soft hyphen" or "optional hyphen".
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
that
"xx-x" with soft/optional hyphen will appear as "xx", not "xxx".

It isn't guaranteed that a Microsoft employee will monitor the newsgroup...
and even if, it doesn't seem too likely s/he'll forward the issue to those
responsible for the Norwegian localization.

Maybe in addition to your suggestion here, you might try to send it as
feedback on the MS website?
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?LN=no&gprid=11377

Regards,
Klaus
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

Good information, Pam. For Office 2007: Norwegian Bokmål and Nynorsk
hyphenators: Copyright © Lingsoft, Inc. 2005.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com said:
If you check out the "about language settings" tab in the MS Office 2007
language settings (or the similar one for O2003), you should find the name
of
the company that provides the "hyphenator" for your language. With that
information, you may be able to find more up-to-date software that gives
you
what you want.

Pam

Klaus said:
Thank you for replying, but:
1. I know how to enter a "soft hyphen" or "optional hyphen".
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
that
"xx-x" with soft/optional hyphen will appear as "xx", not "xxx".

It isn't guaranteed that a Microsoft employee will monitor the
newsgroup...
and even if, it doesn't seem too likely s/he'll forward the issue to those
responsible for the Norwegian localization.

Maybe in addition to your suggestion here, you might try to send it as
feedback on the MS website?
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?LN=no&gprid=11377

Regards,
Klaus
 

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