Sync between WM6 and BCM 2007?

D

Dhow

Hi y'all,
It seemed there are more and more people asking how to sync between their
Mobile Windows 6 devices with the BCM 2007...
This too has made me anxious and also worry about purchasing a new
smartphone based on Windows Mobile 6, because I wish to carry my BCM 2007
whenever and wherever I go...
Are there any problems with the sync? And work around it?
Thanks!
 
M

mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com

The MS released sync solution works reliably. The only problem is with its
limited design features. It syncs your separate BCM Business Contacts folder
on your PC only to a separate Business Contacts program folder on your device.
These separate Business contacts on your device have no caller ID or quick
dial look up like the the regular synced Outlook contacts do. MS seems
actually proud of this accomplishment and the assumption that all users wish
to have this separation and limited functionality on their mobile device.

Sadly, the current state of syncronization with BCM to WM devices remains an
uncoordinated bureaucratic complexity from MS.

-THP
 
D

Dhow

Hi Tim,

I wrote this reply message because IE7 has been asking me for my account and
password over and over again (darn!)...
It is a sad news indeed... Because I really planning to purchase a Treo 750
(which has WM6 in it) to use it with my BCM 2007.
May I ask what kind of WM device do you use currently?
And what else of the sync backdraw you experienced?
Thanks for all the infos!
 
M

mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com

Dhow,

I use a Treo 750 and an alternative, 3rd party sync solution called Pocket
Mirror for WM. Check it out at: www.chapura.com.

-THP

Hi Tim,

I wrote this reply message because IE7 has been asking me for my account and
password over and over again (darn!)...
It is a sad news indeed... Because I really planning to purchase a Treo 750
(which has WM6 in it) to use it with my BCM 2007.
May I ask what kind of WM device do you use currently?
And what else of the sync backdraw you experienced?
Thanks for all the infos!
The MS released sync solution works reliably. The only problem is with its
limited design features. It syncs your separate BCM Business Contacts folder
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
 
D

Dhow

Hi Tim,
How's Treo 750 for you?
I really hoped that Palm will add Wifi to it, but then again we'll just
accept what they throw at us for now... It'll be great to edit and print
documents wirelessly at Sharepoint website through our access point.
Can I ask you, why would you use 3rd part sync program instead of Windows'
ActiveSync? Oh, I forgot to ask you what Windows do you use? I use Vista
Business, and there's a Sync Center instead of ActiveSync; so that's why I'm
a bit confused...

Thanks!

mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com said:
Dhow,

I use a Treo 750 and an alternative, 3rd party sync solution called Pocket
Mirror for WM. Check it out at: www.chapura.com.

-THP

Hi Tim,

I wrote this reply message because IE7 has been asking me for my account and
password over and over again (darn!)...
It is a sad news indeed... Because I really planning to purchase a Treo 750
(which has WM6 in it) to use it with my BCM 2007.
May I ask what kind of WM device do you use currently?
And what else of the sync backdraw you experienced?
Thanks for all the infos!
The MS released sync solution works reliably. The only problem is with its
limited design features. It syncs your separate BCM Business Contacts folder
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
Are there any problems with the sync? And work around it?
Thanks!
 
M

mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com

Dhow,

The Treo 750 works great. I am awaiting Palm's newest uber geek device yet
to come hopefully soon. This WM Treo (800?) is to be released hopefully soon
with WM6 included. I use Vista Business on my Toshiba Tablet. The 3rd party
sync program just adds additional conduits. It still uses the Vista Sync
Center. You are simply enabling the abilitiy to sync additional folders that
can then send more data across to your mobile device. I have tried to learn
to like using the free MS BCM sync program for WM but I simply refuse to have
such limited look up and dialing functionality missing from them in contrast
to how robust the native Outlook contacts work on the Treo.

-THP


Hi Tim,
How's Treo 750 for you?
I really hoped that Palm will add Wifi to it, but then again we'll just
accept what they throw at us for now... It'll be great to edit and print
documents wirelessly at Sharepoint website through our access point.
Can I ask you, why would you use 3rd part sync program instead of Windows'
ActiveSync? Oh, I forgot to ask you what Windows do you use? I use Vista
Business, and there's a Sync Center instead of ActiveSync; so that's why I'm
a bit confused...

Thanks!
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
 
D

Dhow

Hi again Tim,

Me too wanted to wait for the newest Treo at first, but can't resist to wait
that long ;p Heard that WM6 is already released for Treo 750, check it out at
Palm Ausie website for the free update.
But so far Treo 800 leaked info is nowhere to be found, and judging by Palm
latest press conference of Treo 500 at Digital Life; I think they will only
launch a new product at 2008 but not this year. There's a good news, Engadget
writers have wrote a letter to Palm about how they should improve their next
product lineups; and Ed Holligan has response the letter. Here's the URL:
"http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention"
You're right, I can't look up and dial my BCM 2007 contacts at Treo 750...
You said you use 3rd party programs to do this? Does it work well?


mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com said:
Dhow,

The Treo 750 works great. I am awaiting Palm's newest uber geek device yet
to come hopefully soon. This WM Treo (800?) is to be released hopefully soon
with WM6 included. I use Vista Business on my Toshiba Tablet. The 3rd party
sync program just adds additional conduits. It still uses the Vista Sync
Center. You are simply enabling the abilitiy to sync additional folders that
can then send more data across to your mobile device. I have tried to learn
to like using the free MS BCM sync program for WM but I simply refuse to have
such limited look up and dialing functionality missing from them in contrast
to how robust the native Outlook contacts work on the Treo.

-THP


Hi Tim,
How's Treo 750 for you?
I really hoped that Palm will add Wifi to it, but then again we'll just
accept what they throw at us for now... It'll be great to edit and print
documents wirelessly at Sharepoint website through our access point.
Can I ask you, why would you use 3rd part sync program instead of Windows'
ActiveSync? Oh, I forgot to ask you what Windows do you use? I use Vista
Business, and there's a Sync Center instead of ActiveSync; so that's why I'm
a bit confused...

Thanks!
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
Are there any problems with the sync? And work around it?
Thanks!
 
M

mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com

Dhow,

Yes, Pocket Mirror works very well. It brings all of the BCM Business
Contacts over and puts them all together with the regular Outlook contacts
into only ONE place on the mobile device. You can then utilize all of the
quick look up and caller ID functionality. I believe that they have a free
trial or refund policy. Try it out and see how it works for you. If you
don't like it for some reason you can always go back. I have not used the
newer Folder Mirror solution but I know several who have and they like it a
lot. Chapura has a very good reputation for getting things to work right.
Their support is also legendary among mobile geeks.

-THP
Hi again Tim,

Me too wanted to wait for the newest Treo at first, but can't resist to wait
that long ;p Heard that WM6 is already released for Treo 750, check it out at
Palm Ausie website for the free update.
But so far Treo 800 leaked info is nowhere to be found, and judging by Palm
latest press conference of Treo 500 at Digital Life; I think they will only
launch a new product at 2008 but not this year. There's a good news, Engadget
writers have wrote a letter to Palm about how they should improve their next
product lineups; and Ed Holligan has response the letter. Here's the URL:
"http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention"
You're right, I can't look up and dial my BCM 2007 contacts at Treo 750...
You said you use 3rd party programs to do this? Does it work well?
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
 
D

Dhow

Hi Tim,

Ok and thank u for your precious infos there.
I'll try Chapura's programs right away.
It's been great and also fun talking with u, hope we'll keep in touch again
in the future.


Regards,

~Dhow


mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com said:
Dhow,

Yes, Pocket Mirror works very well. It brings all of the BCM Business
Contacts over and puts them all together with the regular Outlook contacts
into only ONE place on the mobile device. You can then utilize all of the
quick look up and caller ID functionality. I believe that they have a free
trial or refund policy. Try it out and see how it works for you. If you
don't like it for some reason you can always go back. I have not used the
newer Folder Mirror solution but I know several who have and they like it a
lot. Chapura has a very good reputation for getting things to work right.
Their support is also legendary among mobile geeks.

-THP
Hi again Tim,

Me too wanted to wait for the newest Treo at first, but can't resist to wait
that long ;p Heard that WM6 is already released for Treo 750, check it out at
Palm Ausie website for the free update.
But so far Treo 800 leaked info is nowhere to be found, and judging by Palm
latest press conference of Treo 500 at Digital Life; I think they will only
launch a new product at 2008 but not this year. There's a good news, Engadget
writers have wrote a letter to Palm about how they should improve their next
product lineups; and Ed Holligan has response the letter. Here's the URL:
"http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention"
You're right, I can't look up and dial my BCM 2007 contacts at Treo 750...
You said you use 3rd party programs to do this? Does it work well?
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
Are there any problems with the sync? And work around it?
Thanks!
 
S

ScottP

I'm using a Treo 700wx and hate the MS BCM mobile interface as well. Do I
remove the mobile BCM prog when using Pocket Mirror?

Dhow said:
Hi Tim,

Ok and thank u for your precious infos there.
I'll try Chapura's programs right away.
It's been great and also fun talking with u, hope we'll keep in touch
again
in the future.


Regards,

~Dhow


mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com said:
Dhow,

Yes, Pocket Mirror works very well. It brings all of the BCM Business
Contacts over and puts them all together with the regular Outlook
contacts
into only ONE place on the mobile device. You can then utilize all of
the
quick look up and caller ID functionality. I believe that they have a
free
trial or refund policy. Try it out and see how it works for you. If you
don't like it for some reason you can always go back. I have not used
the
newer Folder Mirror solution but I know several who have and they like it
a
lot. Chapura has a very good reputation for getting things to work
right.
Their support is also legendary among mobile geeks.

-THP
Hi again Tim,

Me too wanted to wait for the newest Treo at first, but can't resist to
wait
that long ;p Heard that WM6 is already released for Treo 750, check it
out at
Palm Ausie website for the free update.
But so far Treo 800 leaked info is nowhere to be found, and judging by
Palm
latest press conference of Treo 500 at Digital Life; I think they will
only
launch a new product at 2008 but not this year. There's a good news,
Engadget
writers have wrote a letter to Palm about how they should improve their
next
product lineups; and Ed Holligan has response the letter. Here's the
URL:
"http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention"
You're right, I can't look up and dial my BCM 2007 contacts at Treo
750...
You said you use 3rd party programs to do this? Does it work well?

Dhow,

[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
Are there any problems with the sync? And work around it?
Thanks!
 
R

Rod

THP,

Pocket Mirror did not work for me. I'd like the BCM Contacts to be placed
in ONE place on my windows mobile 6 phone (so i can search, etc). But it
puts them in a seperate folder.

Any advice?

thanks,

Rod

mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com said:
Dhow,

Yes, Pocket Mirror works very well. It brings all of the BCM Business
Contacts over and puts them all together with the regular Outlook contacts
into only ONE place on the mobile device. You can then utilize all of the
quick look up and caller ID functionality. I believe that they have a free
trial or refund policy. Try it out and see how it works for you. If you
don't like it for some reason you can always go back. I have not used the
newer Folder Mirror solution but I know several who have and they like it a
lot. Chapura has a very good reputation for getting things to work right.
Their support is also legendary among mobile geeks.

-THP
Hi again Tim,

Me too wanted to wait for the newest Treo at first, but can't resist to wait
that long ;p Heard that WM6 is already released for Treo 750, check it out at
Palm Ausie website for the free update.
But so far Treo 800 leaked info is nowhere to be found, and judging by Palm
latest press conference of Treo 500 at Digital Life; I think they will only
launch a new product at 2008 but not this year. There's a good news, Engadget
writers have wrote a letter to Palm about how they should improve their next
product lineups; and Ed Holligan has response the letter. Here's the URL:
"http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/dear-palm-its-time-for-an-intervention"
You're right, I can't look up and dial my BCM 2007 contacts at Treo 750...
You said you use 3rd party programs to do this? Does it work well?
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
Are there any problems with the sync? And work around it?
Thanks!
 
M

mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com

Rod,

I am not clear about your comments. Am I confused and missing something?
Pocket Mirror DOES indeed put your BCM contacts into only ONE place on your
WM 6 phone. The BCM contacts are included right alongside with any of your
native Outlook contacts inside of only the Pocket Outlook dialing application
on your smart phone. They are only designated differently by a special
category identifier that pocket mirror assigns to the BCM Contact indicating
it as such. The MS BCM mobile application in contrast requires an entirely
separate application and location on your phone device from the native, stand
alone Outlook contact records.

-THP


THP,

Pocket Mirror did not work for me. I'd like the BCM Contacts to be placed
in ONE place on my windows mobile 6 phone (so i can search, etc). But it
puts them in a seperate folder.

Any advice?

thanks,

Rod
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
 
R

Rod

THP,

you're right. For some reason the mapping functionality within Chapura was
not displaying, but after a re-install on another computer it has done so.
And now all my contacts are in one folder allowing me to search, etc.

But i will say the syncing is very slow (it was much faster with my Palm
device). Even after i sync once, the second sync seems to take just as long
about 30 min for 5,000 contacts. what has your experience been?

Also i never tried the Windows Mobile update that supposedy provides you to
sycn business contacts, but does it place them in another contact folder, not
allowing you to search, caller ID, etc?

Thanks!

rod


mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com said:
Rod,

I am not clear about your comments. Am I confused and missing something?
Pocket Mirror DOES indeed put your BCM contacts into only ONE place on your
WM 6 phone. The BCM contacts are included right alongside with any of your
native Outlook contacts inside of only the Pocket Outlook dialing application
on your smart phone. They are only designated differently by a special
category identifier that pocket mirror assigns to the BCM Contact indicating
it as such. The MS BCM mobile application in contrast requires an entirely
separate application and location on your phone device from the native, stand
alone Outlook contact records.

-THP


THP,

Pocket Mirror did not work for me. I'd like the BCM Contacts to be placed
in ONE place on my windows mobile 6 phone (so i can search, etc). But it
puts them in a seperate folder.

Any advice?

thanks,

Rod
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
Are there any problems with the sync? And work around it?
Thanks!
 
R

Rod

After syncing a couple of times it is not much faster

Rod said:
THP,

you're right. For some reason the mapping functionality within Chapura was
not displaying, but after a re-install on another computer it has done so.
And now all my contacts are in one folder allowing me to search, etc.

But i will say the syncing is very slow (it was much faster with my Palm
device). Even after i sync once, the second sync seems to take just as long
about 30 min for 5,000 contacts. what has your experience been?

Also i never tried the Windows Mobile update that supposedy provides you to
sycn business contacts, but does it place them in another contact folder, not
allowing you to search, caller ID, etc?

Thanks!

rod


mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com said:
Rod,

I am not clear about your comments. Am I confused and missing something?
Pocket Mirror DOES indeed put your BCM contacts into only ONE place on your
WM 6 phone. The BCM contacts are included right alongside with any of your
native Outlook contacts inside of only the Pocket Outlook dialing application
on your smart phone. They are only designated differently by a special
category identifier that pocket mirror assigns to the BCM Contact indicating
it as such. The MS BCM mobile application in contrast requires an entirely
separate application and location on your phone device from the native, stand
alone Outlook contact records.

-THP


THP,

Pocket Mirror did not work for me. I'd like the BCM Contacts to be placed
in ONE place on my windows mobile 6 phone (so i can search, etc). But it
puts them in a seperate folder.

Any advice?

thanks,

Rod

Dhow,

[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
Are there any problems with the sync? And work around it?
Thanks!
 

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