T"o many files opened"

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bfrc

Sometimes, when I am creating a PowerPoint presentation, the mac won't
let me save it saying there "are too many files open". I simply can't
save the changes and, in the end, loose everithing.
What is hapening and how can I avoid it in the future ?
 
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Stephen Adams

bfrc said:
Sometimes, when I am creating a PowerPoint presentation, the mac won't
let me save it saying there "are too many files open". I simply can't
save the changes and, in the end, loose everithing.
What is hapening and how can I avoid it in the future ?

Without knowing your situation's specifics, such as which version of
PowerPoint or operating system, it's difficult to find a specific fix.

I did take the time to do a search on Google and came up with a few
possible causes:

1. An OS limit on how many total files the system can handle has been
reached,

2. An internal MS Office application limit has been reached on how many
macros/images/movies, etc. are included within a document,

3. The MS Office limit has been reached on how many times the document
can be auto-saved,

4. Or, a network and/or folder sharing conflict has arisen.

Regarding Problem 1, I saw references in the Google search indicating
that OS 8.6 has a limit of 348 open files while OS 9.x has bumped that
up to around 8000 or so. The definition of an open file, in this case,
is any font, extension, macro, picture, application, subroutine, or
script that the computer needs to hold an address space open in memory
for. Typical fixes here would include limiting the number of active
fonts in the System Folder's Font directory and keeping the number of
open applications down to a minimum, among other things. I didn't see
any reference as to whether any version of OS X has any such open file
limits.

Problem 2, I came upon discussions in a variety of other Mac Office
forums where people had around 60 macros/images/movies implanted or
imported in an Office document, including PowerPoint. The applications
seems to choke on having that many "features" in a single file. The fix
here would seem to be to reduce the number of such instances of these
external files called within a single document.

Problem 3's references were few but to the point: turn off the auto-save
feature in the application's Preferences. It appears that some Office
applications will only auto-save up to 60 copies of a document then no
more. If auto-save is a feature that must be enabled, due to operating
policy at your location, then manually invoke the "Save As..." option
frequently, slightly changing the name of the document each time. My
reference also showed that manually saving as another variant of the
document type would allow work to be saved without major loss.

Finally, Problem 4 can be overcome by not working with the file directly
from within shared folders or across network connections. Using the
Finder or other copy utility, copy the file from the network location to
your local HD, work on it and save the changes there, then use the
Finder to put a copy back onto the network share. This step usually
fixes the majority of network related issues. This type of problem was
quite common in the early days of Macs trying to access non-Mac
networks, but in some circumstances, it can still pose a problem today.

Hope this info helps. This is by no means an exhaustive, all inclusive
list of potential problems and fixes. This is just what I came up with
after about five minutes of searching Google.

Good luck.

Steve
 
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bfrc

Steve,

Thanks a lot for your answer, you had a lot of work with it and I
really appreciated it.
I can specify a bit more:
-I'm working with Office X 2004 (version 11.3) on OS X 10.4.8. and with
two computers connected via ethernet; a PB G4 1,33Ghz and a iMac G3
400Mhz. The problem hapens in both computers.
I think the problem is number 2, there is some kind of internal
limitation of MS Office, since I work with a lot of images and sounds
in the presentations.
Do you think that it will work to save the document under a different
name often ?

Thanks a lot,
Bernardo
 
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Jim Gordon MVP

Hi,

In addition to Steve's extensive list of possibilities, by any chance are
you opening this file on a flash drive or drive that is nearly full?

Applications create temporary files when you open a document. If there's not
enough room on the drive for these files then you could get this error
message. You need slightly more free space on the drive than the size of the
file that you are trying to open.

-Jim Gordon
Mac MVP


Sometimes, when I am creating a PowerPoint presentation, the mac won't
let me save it saying there "are too many files open". I simply can't
save the changes and, in the end, loose everithing.
What is hapening and how can I avoid it in the future ?

--
Jim Gordon
Mac MVP

MVPs are not Microsoft Employees
MVP info
 
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Stephen Adams

Hi Bernardo,

It certainly wouldn't hurt to try saving the file with a different name
each time. As a personal policy of mine, I always append file names with
a date & time code so that each file name is slightly different.

Yeah, I know the date and time info is stored as part of the internal
file resources, but it's handy at times to have that info right there in
the file name; it makes manual searching via the Finder, as well as
crafting Spotlight queries, easier for me.

:)

You might also want to check out the possibility that one of your
embedded images or movies isn't corrupted. I'd also suggest checking to
see if a font is corrupted, but if you're using those fonts in another
app's files and not seeing problems, I don't think fonts are to blame.

Regards,

Steve
 
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bfrc

Hi Jim,

Unfortunately, it hapens when I use PowerPoint in the hard disk, and it
still has 9 Gb of free space.

Thanks anyway,
Bernardo
 

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