Text does not wrap around large objects

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lmklassen

I have a large floating frame that cover the top 3/4 of a page and is
anchored to a paragraph that also is 3/4 of a page. Word always begins
the anchor paragraph immediately below the image, even if this leaves
half of the previous page blank. I want word to break the anchor
paragraph over two pages like any sane text wrapping program, but have
not been able to find any settings that correctly warps text around
objects. The problem exists for all objects, autoshape, text boxes,
etc. and not just frames.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
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lmklassen

Beth Rosengard said:
I can't picture what you've described but ...

Select the "object" (frame, picture, text box) and go to Format> "object"
(it will be the last item on the Formal menu). Click the Layout tab and
change the wrapping from 'Inline with text' to whatever style you like.
Click to expand...

The object is already floating and not inline. You can see an example
of the issue I'm having at

http://www.imaging.robarts.ca/~mklassen/wraperror.doc
 
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Beth Rosengard

The object is already floating and not inline. You can see an example
of the issue I'm having at

http://www.imaging.robarts.ca/~mklassen/wraperror.doc
Click to expand...

Sorry, I'm still not getting it. The paragraph *does* break over two pages.

The graphic boundaries form a rectangle which is so big that there's no room
for text to wrap around it. Is that what you're trying to do?

Or you want the text to ignore the boundaries and wrap tight to the image?
To do that you would have to create variable boundaries for the image so
Word knows where it begins and ends. I don't know how to do this, but
someone else might. Or it may not be possible in Word which is, after all,
not a page layout application. I don't know.

--
Beth Rosengard
Mac MVP

Mac Word FAQ: <http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/WordMac/index.htm>
Entourage Help Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org>
 
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Beth Rosengard

Sorry, I'm still not getting it. The paragraph *does* break over two pages.

The graphic boundaries form a rectangle which is so big that there's no room
for text to wrap around it. Is that what you're trying to do?

Or you want the text to ignore the boundaries and wrap tight to the image?
To do that you would have to create variable boundaries for the image so
Word knows where it begins and ends. I don't know how to do this, but
someone else might. Or it may not be possible in Word which is, after all,
not a page layout application. I don't know.
Click to expand...

Wait! I've got it now. You want to know why your second paragraph doesn't
begin on page 1 above the graphic and continue on page 2 below the graphic.
Good question.

(And if you did want the text wrapped tight to the image, you could have
done it using the Tight wrapping option. I was wrong above.)

Anyway, it should be possible. In the Layout dialog, there is a button for
Advanced which gives the option for Top and Bottom wrapping. Only it
doesn't work. I'll ask about this and try to get you an answer.

--
Beth Rosengard
Mac MVP

Mac Word FAQ: <http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/WordMac/index.htm>
Entourage Help Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org>
 
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lmklassen

Beth Rosengard said:
One more thing: What are your OS and Office/Word version numbers?
Click to expand...
I'm using Office X and OS X 10.3.4. I've also tried Office 2004 Test
Drive without success.

Exactly.
 
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Beth Rosengard

I'm trying to get an answer. I'll post if/when I find out anything.
Click to expand...

Hi again,

I finally got back an answer from people who should know ­ two actually ­
and they're somewhat contradictory :).

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ #1:
If I anchor the image to the paragraph below the bolded text and then move
the anchor back to the bolded paragraph the wrapping settings seem to work
just fine. The paragraph breaks the page as expected and adjusting to square
and top and bottom give the expected results based on the dimensions of the
file.

It's interesting that I had to move the paragraphs like that though. I'm
going to pass this around up here and see if I can get any explanation of
why it behaves this way. I think it has something to do with total paragraph
length, dimensions of the graphic, and margin settings.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I tried this myself and it worked once but I couldn't get it to repeat
reliably. It's worth a try though. You need to turn on Show/Hide
formatting to see the Anchor icon.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ #2:
There is a (probably undocumented) limit on the width of the text space into
which Word will flow text on a wrap-around.

I can't remember whether it's one inch or three: one, I suspect. If the
space between the edge of the graphic plus the margin of the graphic and the
margin of the page is less than an inch, Word will not put text there.

Tell the user to display Text Boundaries: that should show her what's
happening. If it is the minimum distance problem, you will see blank where
there should be boundary lines.

To prove it, drag the corner of the graphic to make it smaller. If the text
then wraps, that was it.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

So even if the workaround works (which it may or may not), there still
appears to be a bug. At least now it's been documented. Thanks for your
patience.

--
Beth Rosengard
Mac MVP

Mac Word FAQ: <http://word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/index.htm>
Entourage Help Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org>
 

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