text problem in frontpage

[exasperated ellie]

When viewing our website on different computers sometimes the text appears
larger, expands disproportionally and overlaps other content. We have found
that if you change the text size option in the view menu on Internet Explorer
to 'smaller' whilst vewing from the web this solves the problem but of course
visitors to our site won't know/do that. Why do some computers load with
this text size option set at 'smaller' and others at 'medium' or something
else. Is there a way we can make sure the text size will always open in
'smaller' or alternatively that the whole page expands proportionally.

 

[Murray]

Are you using points to size your text on the page?

 

[exasperated ellie]

Thanks for your reply Murray, we are using Arial 3 (12 pt)

 

[Murray]

Yep - that's why (at least it's one reason). Points are a printed page
metric and should not be used on a web page. You would have to use CSS to
style your characters with pixels, percents, ems, exs, ens, font size names,
or relative sizes to get more reliable rendering cross-browser.

And for what it's worth, when you set your browser at MEDIUM, that's where
it stays - web pages cannot change that.

 

[Zack]

I am having the same problem - everything looks fine on my computer but not
on others. If we are not supposed to use points, what do you use? I just set
the text to "Verdana 3 (10pt.)" and typed what I wanted - isn't this what you
are supposed to do? How do you select the text if not in this manner?

Zack

 

[fido]

I am having the same problem - everything looks fine on my computer but not
on others. If we are not supposed to use points, what do you use?

As Murray said below, use pixels and use them throughout the site:all
your text will remain the size you intended, and the relationship of
sizes of various headers will be retained.

fido

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

I use points and have no problems.

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[Murray]

You just haven't checked enough.

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Using Points worked just fine before CSS, and has not stopped work since CSS was developed. So it is
just a matter of choice on which to use.

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[Murray]

Actually it has never 'worked fine' on the web (which is a pixel not inch
based display). Using points for sizing your text will give you the largest
possible variation in character sizes cross-browser/platform. But -
whatever validates your page, you know? 8)

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

But I have never had any problem with any site, and I did allow for how each browser render the text
in the page design.

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Actually it has never 'worked fine' on the web (which is a pixel not inch based display). Using
points for sizing your text will give you the largest possible variation in character sizes
cross-browser/platform. But - whatever validates your page, you know? 8)

 

[exasperated ellie]

Thankyou all for replying, I really appreciate it

Where do I get this type of text from & how do I change all the text to CSS?

I'm a novice to all this web site lark as you've probably guessed!!

Regards

Ellie

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

I personally avoid using CSS to specific fonts, etc.

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[Ronx]

See CSS tutorials at www.w3shools.com

 

[exasperated ellie]

Thanks for your replies, if I don't use CSS what else can I do to solve the
problem

Regards

Ellie

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

You would have to learn to use CSS by following the link Ronx provided or you would continue to use
fonts (like I do) and don't worry about it.

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[exasperated ellie]

Thanks for your reply, if you look at the website www.conveyor-services.co.uk
you will see the problem that some people have in viewing it if their browser
is set at medium.

Thanks

Ellie

 

[Ronx]

Correction:

See CSS tutorials at www.w3schools.com

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

You are having these problem not so much because of using font tags, but because you are using CSS
Absolute Positioning.

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[Stefan B Rusynko]

Agree - use of absolute positioning of fixed size tables w/ styles is your problem



| You are having these problem not so much because of using font tags, but because you are using CSS
| Absolute Positioning.
|
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| Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| ==============================================
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| a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| Microsoft Product Support Services:
| http://support.microsoft.com
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| security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
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| | > Thanks for your reply, if you look at the website www.conveyor-services.co.uk
| > you will see the problem that some people have in viewing it if their browser
| > is set at medium.
| >
| > Thanks
| >
| > Ellie
| >
| > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| >
| >> You would have to learn to use CSS by following the link Ronx provided or you would continue to
| >> use
| >> fonts (like I do) and don't worry about it.
| >>
| >> --
| >> ==============================================
| >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| >> ==============================================
| >> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| >> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| >> Microsoft Product Support Services:
| >> http://support.microsoft.com
| >> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| >> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| >> ==============================================
| >>
| >> | >> > Thanks for your replies, if I don't use CSS what else can I do to solve the
| >> > problem
| >> >
| >> > Regards
| >> >
| >> > Ellie
| >> >
| >> > "Ronx" wrote:
| >> >
| >> >> See CSS tutorials at www.w3shools.com
| >> >> --
| >> >> Ron Symonds
| >> >> Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| >> >> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| >> >>
| >> >> in message | >> >> > Thankyou all for replying, I really appreciate it
| >> >> >
| >> >> > Where do I get this type of text from & how do I change all the text
| >> >> > to CSS?
| >> >> >
| >> >> > I'm a novice to all this web site lark as you've probably guessed!!
| >> >> >
| >> >> > Regards
| >> >> >
| >> >> > Ellie
| >> >> >
| >> >> >
| >> >> > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| >> >> >
| >> >> >> But I have never had any problem with any site, and I did allow for
| >> >> >> how each browser render the text
| >> >> >> in the page design.
| >> >> >>
| >> >> >> --
| >> >> >> ==============================================
| >> >> >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| >> >> >> ==============================================
| >> >> >> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| >> >> >> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| >> >> >> Microsoft Product Support Services:
| >> >> >> http://support.microsoft.com
| >> >> >> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| >> >> >> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| >> >> >> ==============================================
| >> >> >>
| >> >> >> | >> >> >> > Actually it has never 'worked fine' on the web (which is a pixel
| >> >> >> > not inch based display). Using
| >> >> >> > points for sizing your text will give you the largest possible
| >> >> >> > variation in character sizes
| >> >> >> > cross-browser/platform. But - whatever validates your page, you
| >> >> >> > know? 8)
| >> >> >> >
| >> >> >> > --
| >> >> >> > Murray
| >> >> >> > ============
| >> >> >> >
| >> >> >> > | >> >> >> >> Using Points worked just fine before CSS, and has not stopped
| >> >> >> >> work since CSS was developed. So it
| >> >> >> >> is just a matter of choice on which to use.
| >> >> >> >>
| >> >> >> >> --
| >> >> >> >> ==============================================
| >> >> >> >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| >> >> >> >> ==============================================
| >> >> >> >> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| >> >> >> >> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| >> >> >> >> Microsoft Product Support Services:
| >> >> >> >> http://support.microsoft.com
| >> >> >> >> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| >> >> >> >> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| >> >> >> >> ==============================================
| >> >> >> >>
| >> >> >> >> | >> >> >> >>> You just haven't checked enough.
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| >> >> >> >>> --
| >> >> >> >>> Murray
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