Theme font, Outlook 2007, can't change for new messages received

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Bob Dunn

In Outlook 2007 some, but not all, new incoming messages are presented in a
font that's called helvetica, but appears more like ALGERIAN. We have set the
font for; New mail messages, Replying or forwarding messages, and Composing
and reading plain text messages, to Arial 11, but it has no affect on the
messages that are displayed in (?) ALGERIAN or helvetica.
In 'Theme or Stationary', '(No Theme)' is selected, but in the pane to the
right the heading, bullet, text, etc. all look like ALGERIAN.
Some of the messages are to groups, but no other recipients see the text in
this funky font.
Since this affects is some, but not all incoming messages, I suspect it has
something to do with how our Outlook interprets the sender's Theme, but I
don't know how to attack the problem.
Please help.
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

B

Bob Dunn

Diane --
I am sure the sender did not use ALGERIAN as his default ot Theme font. And
the recipient shows "(No Theme)" for the Theme; yet the displayed font is
ALGERIAN. Perhaps if I knew how to change the default(?) font for "(No
Theme)", that would help me figure out what's wrong.
Bob Dunn


Diane Poremsky said:
What font did the sender use? If the message is HTML or RTF, you outlook
will use the fonts they used, not the one you have set in themes.

--
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D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

The recipients theme has nothing to do with received mail. What does the
message header and HTML source show?

Fonts are set in tools, options, mail format, stationery and fonts - try new
messages font.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

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Bob Dunn said:
Diane --
I am sure the sender did not use ALGERIAN as his default ot Theme font.
And
the recipient shows "(No Theme)" for the Theme; yet the displayed font is
ALGERIAN. Perhaps if I knew how to change the default(?) font for "(No
Theme)", that would help me figure out what's wrong.
Bob Dunn


Diane Poremsky said:
What font did the sender use? If the message is HTML or RTF, you outlook
will use the fonts they used, not the one you have set in themes.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
mailto:[email protected]

Poll: What version of Outlook do you use?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=27072


Bob Dunn said:
In Outlook 2007 some, but not all, new incoming messages are presented
in
a
font that's called helvetica, but appears more like ALGERIAN. We have
set
the
font for; New mail messages, Replying or forwarding messages, and
Composing
and reading plain text messages, to Arial 11, but it has no affect on
the
messages that are displayed in (?) ALGERIAN or helvetica.
In 'Theme or Stationary', '(No Theme)' is selected, but in the pane to
the
right the heading, bullet, text, etc. all look like ALGERIAN.
Some of the messages are to groups, but no other recipients see the
text
in
this funky font.
Since this affects is some, but not all incoming messages, I suspect it
has
something to do with how our Outlook interprets the sender's Theme, but
I
don't know how to attack the problem.
Please help.
 
B

Bob Dunn

Thank you. I just realized that I could display the source html, I should
have looked, but this computer is in the office of the Principal of the
school where I work and it is difficult to get timely access to her computer.

I'll have to check it tomorrow and get back. (Not that it makes any
difference, but the font that is displayed for "(No theme)" is "Heavy heap"
not Algerian. I can't imagine how anyone would have chosen that
intentionally.)
Bob Dunn
--
Computer Tech
Middlebrook School
Wilton, CT


Diane Poremsky said:
The recipients theme has nothing to do with received mail. What does the
message header and HTML source show?

Fonts are set in tools, options, mail format, stationery and fonts - try new
messages font.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
mailto:[email protected]

Poll: What version of Outlook do you use?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=27072


Bob Dunn said:
Diane --
I am sure the sender did not use ALGERIAN as his default ot Theme font.
And
the recipient shows "(No Theme)" for the Theme; yet the displayed font is
ALGERIAN. Perhaps if I knew how to change the default(?) font for "(No
Theme)", that would help me figure out what's wrong.
Bob Dunn


Diane Poremsky said:
What font did the sender use? If the message is HTML or RTF, you outlook
will use the fonts they used, not the one you have set in themes.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
mailto:[email protected]

Poll: What version of Outlook do you use?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=27072


In Outlook 2007 some, but not all, new incoming messages are presented
in
a
font that's called helvetica, but appears more like ALGERIAN. We have
set
the
font for; New mail messages, Replying or forwarding messages, and
Composing
and reading plain text messages, to Arial 11, but it has no affect on
the
messages that are displayed in (?) ALGERIAN or helvetica.
In 'Theme or Stationary', '(No Theme)' is selected, but in the pane to
the
right the heading, bullet, text, etc. all look like ALGERIAN.
Some of the messages are to groups, but no other recipients see the
text
in
this funky font.
Since this affects is some, but not all incoming messages, I suspect it
has
something to do with how our Outlook interprets the sender's Theme, but
I
don't know how to attack the problem.
Please help.
 
B

Bob Dunn

I'm afraid the source html tells me nothing, though it might tell someone
else something. The only font called out is Calibri.
Other observations that may be clues:
1. Changing the fonts in all three that are configurable (New mail ...,
Replying or ..., and Composing ...) does not change or in any way affect the
(No Theme)-font; it remains Heavy Heap, so the No Theme font must be set
elsewhere.
2. While looking at the registry I copied some text from a data item and
pasted it into a new blank Word 2007 document. It pasted in Heavy Heap font,
even though the registry source showed Calibri.
3. All incoming messages from Outlook web Access users in our domain
displayed in Calibri.
4. Incoming messages from all Office 2007 Outlook users in our domain are
displayed in Heavy Heap.
I'm guessing that the No Theme font is being set in elsewhere in Office
2007, probably by Word 2007, but I don't know where to look -- perhaps
Word Options, Advanced?


--



Bob Dunn said:
Thank you. I just realized that I could display the source html, I should
have looked, but this computer is in the office of the Principal of the
school where I work and it is difficult to get timely access to her computer.

I'll have to check it tomorrow and get back. (Not that it makes any
difference, but the font that is displayed for "(No theme)" is "Heavy heap"
not Algerian. I can't imagine how anyone would have chosen that
intentionally.)
Bob Dunn
--
Computer Tech
Middlebrook School
Wilton, CT


Diane Poremsky said:
The recipients theme has nothing to do with received mail. What does the
message header and HTML source show?

Fonts are set in tools, options, mail format, stationery and fonts - try new
messages font.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
mailto:[email protected]

Poll: What version of Outlook do you use?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=27072


Bob Dunn said:
Diane --
I am sure the sender did not use ALGERIAN as his default ot Theme font.
And
the recipient shows "(No Theme)" for the Theme; yet the displayed font is
ALGERIAN. Perhaps if I knew how to change the default(?) font for "(No
Theme)", that would help me figure out what's wrong.
Bob Dunn


:

What font did the sender use? If the message is HTML or RTF, you outlook
will use the fonts they used, not the one you have set in themes.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
mailto:[email protected]

Poll: What version of Outlook do you use?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=27072


In Outlook 2007 some, but not all, new incoming messages are presented
in
a
font that's called helvetica, but appears more like ALGERIAN. We have
set
the
font for; New mail messages, Replying or forwarding messages, and
Composing
and reading plain text messages, to Arial 11, but it has no affect on
the
messages that are displayed in (?) ALGERIAN or helvetica.
In 'Theme or Stationary', '(No Theme)' is selected, but in the pane to
the
right the heading, bullet, text, etc. all look like ALGERIAN.
Some of the messages are to groups, but no other recipients see the
text
in
this funky font.
Since this affects is some, but not all incoming messages, I suspect it
has
something to do with how our Outlook interprets the sender's Theme, but
I
don't know how to attack the problem.
Please help.
 
B

Bob Dunn

Well we gave up on an elegant solution and got a bigger hammer.
We deleted the Heavy Heap font from Windows.
Problem solved!

--
Computer Tech
Middlebrook School
Wilton, CT


Bob Dunn said:
I'm afraid the source html tells me nothing, though it might tell someone
else something. The only font called out is Calibri.
Other observations that may be clues:
1. Changing the fonts in all three that are configurable (New mail ...,
Replying or ..., and Composing ...) does not change or in any way affect the
(No Theme)-font; it remains Heavy Heap, so the No Theme font must be set
elsewhere.
2. While looking at the registry I copied some text from a data item and
pasted it into a new blank Word 2007 document. It pasted in Heavy Heap font,
even though the registry source showed Calibri.
3. All incoming messages from Outlook web Access users in our domain
displayed in Calibri.
4. Incoming messages from all Office 2007 Outlook users in our domain are
displayed in Heavy Heap.
I'm guessing that the No Theme font is being set in elsewhere in Office
2007, probably by Word 2007, but I don't know where to look -- perhaps
Word Options, Advanced?


--



Bob Dunn said:
Thank you. I just realized that I could display the source html, I should
have looked, but this computer is in the office of the Principal of the
school where I work and it is difficult to get timely access to her computer.

I'll have to check it tomorrow and get back. (Not that it makes any
difference, but the font that is displayed for "(No theme)" is "Heavy heap"
not Algerian. I can't imagine how anyone would have chosen that
intentionally.)
Bob Dunn
--
Computer Tech
Middlebrook School
Wilton, CT


Diane Poremsky said:
The recipients theme has nothing to do with received mail. What does the
message header and HTML source show?

Fonts are set in tools, options, mail format, stationery and fonts - try new
messages font.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
mailto:[email protected]

Poll: What version of Outlook do you use?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=27072


Diane --
I am sure the sender did not use ALGERIAN as his default ot Theme font.
And
the recipient shows "(No Theme)" for the Theme; yet the displayed font is
ALGERIAN. Perhaps if I knew how to change the default(?) font for "(No
Theme)", that would help me figure out what's wrong.
Bob Dunn


:

What font did the sender use? If the message is HTML or RTF, you outlook
will use the fonts they used, not the one you have set in themes.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
mailto:[email protected]

Poll: What version of Outlook do you use?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=27072


In Outlook 2007 some, but not all, new incoming messages are presented
in
a
font that's called helvetica, but appears more like ALGERIAN. We have
set
the
font for; New mail messages, Replying or forwarding messages, and
Composing
and reading plain text messages, to Arial 11, but it has no affect on
the
messages that are displayed in (?) ALGERIAN or helvetica.
In 'Theme or Stationary', '(No Theme)' is selected, but in the pane to
the
right the heading, bullet, text, etc. all look like ALGERIAN.
Some of the messages are to groups, but no other recipients see the
text
in
this funky font.
Since this affects is some, but not all incoming messages, I suspect it
has
something to do with how our Outlook interprets the sender's Theme, but
I
don't know how to attack the problem.
Please help.
 

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