third party tree and graphing controls

[alfaista]

hello!

we are working on a new database for my company. we BADLY need a good tree
control and much better graphing capabilities. i know people probably don't
want to recommend anything in particular, but i thought i would ask.

can anyone suggest, good, stable, tree and graphing controls? i've looked
thru all kinds on ComponentSource, and various other web sites, but haven't
been able to find any really good reviews of the controls.

right now i am looking at TList and TeeChart. any other suggestions?

thanks so much for any help you can provide!!

 

[Tom van Stiphout]

On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:54:00 -0800, alfaista

The problem is that Access uses COM components, and that the major
component developers moved on to .NET components at least half a
decade ago. At that time the controls from Infragistics were decent,
but as I said they have LONG since moved on.
I would stick with the Microsoft provided controls if you can.

-Tom.
Microsoft Access MVP

 

[alfaista]

okay, thanks, i'll just keep looking. MS controls are not acceptable for our
use.

 

[Larry Linson]

The problem is that Access uses COM components,
and that the major component developers moved on
to .NET components at least half a decade ago. At
that time the controls from Infragistics were decent,
but as I said they have LONG since moved on.

Even then, there were some restrictions that had to be observed in creating
them if third-party controls were to be usable with Access (they might work
just-fine-thankee with classic VB and C++, but fail completely with Access).
Access was such a small market for them that most component developers did
not even bother to test with it, much less learn and observe the very minor
limitations that would permit their controls to be used with Access. Thus,
if you find some older third-party controls, you should verify _first_ that
they will work with Access, because getting a refund in the "aftermarket"
can be problematical at best.

Larry Linson
Microsoft Office Access MVP

 

[Arvin Meyer [MVP]]

I've used TList 7 pm a project some years ago and it worked OK.

 

[alfaista]

thanks so much to you both for inputs. i wish the Access controls would work,
but they will not. so hopefully i can find something. i will certainly
verify, in writing, that it will work!!!!

 

[alfaista]

thanks much! they are up to 8.0, and have been very helpful in responding to
my questions and do's/don'ts with Access. so i am leaning in that direction
for the tree control.

 

[Larry Linson]

I don't know what the problem is that you have with the Access controls.

However, I have used the Windows Treeview (note: it is a Windows control,
not one of the built-in Access controls, part of the Common Controls
collection in Windows) to a limited extent and that worked very well in the
application I was preparing. I do not have an "example database" and cannot,
unfortunately, post a copy of the DB in which I used it as that is
proprietary to my client.

There's information about it in former-MVP Jeff Conrad's "Access Junkie"
site (and perhaps in some of the other sites) listed at
http://sp.ntpcug.org/accesssig/default.aspx.

Larry Linson
Microsoft Office Access MVP

 

[M.L. Sco Scofield]

alfaista,

I have a friend that uses the DBI controls. www.dbi-tech.com He is very
happy with them. Unlike a lot of third party controls, they do play nice
with Access. And they don't have the "DLL Hell" problem that a lot of other
controls have. I'm afraid that their package is a little pricey if you only
plan to use the tree view control.

Good luck.

Sco

M.L. "Sco" Scofield, MCSD, MCP, MSS, A+, Access MVP 2001 - 2005
Denver Area Access Users Group Past President 2006/2007 www.DAAUG.org
MS Colorado Events Administrator www.MSColoradoEvents.com
This email made with 100% recycled electrons!
Miscellaneous Access "stuff" at www.ScoBiz.com

 

[alfaista]

thanks so much, i will take a look at those!

alfaista,

I have a friend that uses the DBI controls. www.dbi-tech.com He is very
happy with them. Unlike a lot of third party controls, they do play nice
with Access. And they don't have the "DLL Hell" problem that a lot of other
controls have. I'm afraid that their package is a little pricey if you only
plan to use the tree view control.

Good luck.

Sco

M.L. "Sco" Scofield, MCSD, MCP, MSS, A+, Access MVP 2001 - 2005
Denver Area Access Users Group Past President 2006/2007 www.DAAUG.org
MS Colorado Events Administrator www.MSColoradoEvents.com
This email made with 100% recycled electrons!
Miscellaneous Access "stuff" at www.ScoBiz.com

 

[Mark Andrews]

This one might work for the tree control:
http://www.codejocksoftware.com/products/controls/

graph:
there are about a dozen or more out there. Not sure how many are still
ActiveX. Send me an email and I'll give you a list of ones I know. I need
to run right now.

Mark
RPT Software
http://www.rptsoftware.com

 

[Douglas J. Steele]

I don't see any mention of Access at the CodeJock site. Access is very picky
when working with ActiveX controls. While it only mentions Access 2000, the
information in http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=202104 applies to all
versions. If you're interested in that tree control, you'd need to confirm
with the vendor that it'll work with Access. Point them to that article if
need be.

 

[Guest]

This one might work for the tree control:
http://www.codejocksoftware.com/products/controls/

graph:
there are about a dozen or more out there. Not sure how many are still
ActiveX. Send me an email and I'll give you a list of ones I know. I
need to run right now.

Mark
RPT Software
http://www.rptsoftware.com