Title caps?

N

Nitya King

Hello
I am using Word 2004 for Mac, version 11.0 and haven't been able to locate
³title caps² so I can change a lower case phrase to all caps with one click.
Any advice?

Thanks
Kathy

(e-mail address removed)
 
J

JE McGimpsey

Nitya King <[email protected]> said:
Hello
I am using Word 2004 for Mac, version 11.0 and haven't been able to locate
³title caps² so I can change a lower case phrase to all caps with one click.
Any advice?

AFAIK, there's no "one click" command to do this. However, you can
attach this macro to a toolbar button...


Public Sub TitleCaps()
Selection.Range.Case = wdTitleWord
End Sub

If you're unfamiliar with macros, see

http://www.word.mvps.org/faqs/macrosvba/CreateAMacro.htm
 
B

Bill Weylock

What's the key combo for cycling through the various cases? Or do you know
what the command is called. I just looked and couldn't find it. Maybe that
would do him? (And I'd like to know for myself)

Thanks!
 
J

JE McGimpsey

Bill Weylock said:
What's the key combo for cycling through the various cases? Or do you know
what the command is called. I just looked and couldn't find it. Maybe that
would do him? (And I'd like to know for myself)

As Elliot pointed out, CMD-OPT-c will cycle between UPPERCASE, lowercase
and Sentence case.

However, it doesn't cycle the user's desired Title Case, at least in v.X
and 2004.
 
E

Elliott Roper

JE said:
As Elliot pointed out, CMD-OPT-c will cycle between UPPERCASE, lowercase
and Sentence case.

However, it doesn't cycle the user's desired Title Case, at least in v.X
and 2004.

Oh yes it does! Try without the period at the end of the sentence.
 
B

Bill Weylock

No, it does cycle through Title Case as well. I used it last week in my
report. I just forgot the key combo (which I had picked up on here).
 
J

JE McGimpsey

Bill Weylock said:
No, it does cycle through Title Case as well. I used it last week in my
report. I just forgot the key combo (which I had picked up on here).

Ah, I forgot that Title Case wouldn't fire if there was ending
punctuation. Seems like a bug to me...
 
P

Paul Berkowitz

Ah, I forgot that Title Case wouldn't fire if there was ending
punctuation. Seems like a bug to me...

It may be intentional. Just by accident I tried it on a sentence that had a
footnote right at the end. With a footnote mark there, it will do lower,
UPPER and Title, but not Sentence case! That's true with or without
punctuation at the end. I'm trying to figure out the logic of that one.
Maybe it is a bug after all?
 
D

Dayo Mitchell

Paul Berkowitz said:
It may be intentional. Just by accident I tried it on a sentence that had a
footnote right at the end. With a footnote mark there, it will do lower,
UPPER and Title, but not Sentence case! That's true with or without
punctuation at the end. I'm trying to figure out the logic of that one.
Maybe it is a bug after all?

I'm sure it's semi-intentional....pretty sure it's grammatically incorrect
for a title to end in a period. Since you can control it by selecting or
not selecting the punctuation, I'd call it a feature myself.

Of course, that overlooks UK English, which uses Title Case before the
semi-colon but not after...and it doesn't seem to matter whether the
footnote is selected, which sounds like a bug.

But wait, if the line ends with semi-colon, manual line break, it toggles
through title case (having selected the entire line). If it ends with
semi-colon, paragraph mark, it doesn't. Again, this actually does match
stylistic rules, in a strange way.

Dayo
 
J

JE McGimpsey

Dayo Mitchell said:
I'm sure it's semi-intentional....pretty sure it's grammatically
incorrect for a title to end in a period.

MLA citations require book titles to be in title case followed by a
period.
Since you can control it by selecting or not selecting the
punctuation, I'd call it a feature myself.

OTOH, article titles need to be in title case followed by a period, but
set within quotation marks - Word *DOES* toggle Title case when the text
is within quotes - IF you don't include *BOTH* quotes in the selection
(selecting either the beginning or the ending quote will toggle title
case but not sentence case, selecting both will toggle sentence case but
not title case). That's just a wee bit too fine grained for me, thank
you very much.

My evaluation: It's a bug, in the sense of a feature gone awry.
Especially since there's nothing in Help to assist one in making sense
of the vagaries.

If one definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over, but
expect a different result, then doing the same thing over and over and
actually getting a different result must be the precursor.

Think how much code must have gone into that "feature" just to eliminate
one case (which the user may in fact want), and which the user could
bypass by a single key tap.
 
P

Phillip M. Jones, CE.T.

JE said:
MLA citations require book titles to be in title case followed by a
period.




OTOH, article titles need to be in title case followed by a period, but
set within quotation marks - Word *DOES* toggle Title case when the text
is within quotes - IF you don't include *BOTH* quotes in the selection
(selecting either the beginning or the ending quote will toggle title
case but not sentence case, selecting both will toggle sentence case but
not title case). That's just a wee bit too fine grained for me, thank
you very much.

My evaluation: It's a bug, in the sense of a feature gone awry.
Especially since there's nothing in Help to assist one in making sense
of the vagaries.

If one definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over, but
expect a different result, then doing the same thing over and over and
actually getting a different result must be the precursor.

Think how much code must have gone into that "feature" just to eliminate
one case (which the user may in fact want), and which the user could
bypass by a single key tap.

If its a bug then you champs or whatever you are called need to bombard the MacBU to
fix this bug. Or have them explain why its so and report back.

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Dayo Mitchell

JE McGimpsey said:
MLA citations require book titles to be in title case followed by a
period.
Oops, right. I was thinking in terms of titles in main text, not titles in
citations.

Okay, I'm willing to agree it's insane. :)

Dayo
 
E

Elliott Roper

JE said:
If one definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over, but
expect a different result, then doing the same thing over and over and
actually getting a different result must be the precursor.
<chuckle>
 
J

JE McGimpsey

Phillip M. Jones said:
If its a bug then you champs or whatever you are called need to
bombard the MacBU to fix this bug. Or have them explain why its so
and report back.

Don't rely on "champs" or MVPs - MacBU knows that MVPs are not typical
users and that they have both personal agendae and unrealistic
expectations of what MacBU should do for them.

Being inundated with requests from regular users is, in my estimation,
the best way to raise the pain threshold...

Notice that I said that it was a bug by *my* evaluation. That
evaluation's worth diddly unless it's corroborated.
 
P

Phillip M. Jones, CE.T.

JE said:
Don't rely on "champs" or MVPs - MacBU knows that MVPs are not typical
users and that they have both personal agendae and unrealistic
expectations of what MacBU should do for them.

Being inundated with requests from regular users is, in my estimation,
the best way to raise the pain threshold...

Notice that I said that it was a bug by *my* evaluation. That
evaluation's worth diddly unless it's corroborated.

Well ... if MVP's get it, and practiced users get it, and the rest of us not so
smart see it. Then as the old say goes ..... "if it walks like a duck, and Quaks
like a Duck, it must be a duck." .

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