Trouble Uploading Webpage

[Say]

I have created a webpage using Publisher 2003. I am having trouble uploading
it through FTP and Publisher. I have the log on information but cannot
access the files/folders. I receive an error message of a firewall or proxy
server, or the program seems to freeze with the hourglass showing and no
response. I have tried many, many times and have had no success.

I have followed the instructions for uploading using FTP at:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/category/1921.aspx
but have had no success as detailed above.

I am able to access the files/folders using FFFTP software (FFFTP
Ver.1.92a).

When I saved the file on my computer as a Webpage & htm and uploaded it
using the FFFTP software, I was only able to see the first page of my webpage
and could not see the photos/images.

When I saved the file on my computer as a One File Webpage and mht and
uploaded it using the FFFTP software, I could see the entire webpage, photos
and it looks great. However, the address that appears in the address section
at the top of the page is very long & strange looking. I inputed names for
each page of the webpage (ex. contactus, but I see in the address section at
the top of the page:
mhtml:http://www.juraisin.com/lps_english.mht!lps_english.files/page0041.htm
). I think it's too long & strange looking.

Is this because I am not uploading the page directly through Publisher &
FTP? Is there any way around this problem while using the FFFTP software?

Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance for any help.

 

[Don Schmidt]

On my ISP server the website files go inside the public_html folder.

 

[DavidF]

Sounds like you are able to upload, but you didn't upload all the files.
Unless you changed the default settings when you Publish to the Web, the
HTML output includes an "index.htm" file PLUS a folder called "index_files"
which contains your other pages and images.

Run the Design Checker under Tools. Fix any problems you find. Delete the
files off your webhost, and republish and upload the index.htm file and the
index_files folder.

DavidF

 

[Say]

Thank you very much for the replies. All your help is greatly appreciated.

The thing is, I'm adding an English version of a homepage that already
exists (the current homepage is in Japanese). When I accessed their files
for the webpage, they already have files index.htm & index.html, I was
worried that saving my Publisher Webpage as index.htm or index.html would
erase their files?

Also, I can't access their files at all directly through Publisher with the
Publish to Web function. I either get the Firewall/Proxy Server message or
that the file doesn't exist (for files/folders I have seen through FFFTP to
exist) or I get the hourglass and Publisher seems to freeze. I have even
left it running in case it was taking a long time to save the file, but no
luck. Through FTP I haven't been able to connect at all & see all the files
that already exist for the site.

Also, does the publisher file have to be saved as index.htm? Does changing
the name affect how it runs?

Thank you again for your help. I really appreciate it.

 

[DavidF]

Say,

In the future remember that the more details, the more likely you are to get
good answers.

If you are trying to upload your English version to an existing website in
Japanese, then you will probably upload to a subfolder of the root directory
of the existing pages. You are correct that you would not want to upload to
the same place as the existing pages, as your index.htm files would/could
overwrite the existing files. A lot depends on how you are going to link
from the existing site to your version of the site. As I said, I would
expect that you will be using a subfolder, but also would say that you would
probably be better served using ASP.net or some other dynamic approach.

Once you figure out how you are going to incorporate your version then if
you choose a subfolder, you would change where you want to upload to that
folder. As per using FFFTP, I must admit that I have never even heard of it.
If you go back and read the articles about uploading using HTTP or FTP
protocols, and direct the uploads to the subfolder instead of the root
directory, you probably will have better luck. If you are using HTTP, you
will of course need to use that method for uploading the Japanese version
too, so unless you are using forms, you might want to stick with FTP. The
main thing is to create the subfolder, and change where you try to upload
to...I think.

As per HTM, or HTML...you can use either. It won't change how Publisher
works. Just remember to change your links to reflect where your site
actually resides. Something more like http://mainsite.com/English/index.htm
for your "homepage".

DavidF

 

[Say]

Thank you SO MUCH for your help. I uploaded the index.htm file & index files
folder to the folder and the webpage is MUCH BETTER. Thank you so much!!!

This time I used WS_FTP to upload the page. I think FFFTP is a Japanese
version/type of the same program, but I used WS_FTP this time.

I just have one remaining problem. (I'm sorry to keep asking so many
questions. This is my first time to make a Publisher Webpage, as I'm sure
you can already tell.)

I entered names for each page under Web Page Options. However, they're not
showing up in the address bar at the top of the page. For example, for one
page I entered aboutus.htm as the Web Page File Name (M), but it's showing up
as:
http://www.juraisin.com/lps/english/index.files/page0001.htm

I don't know why the address doesn't show as something like:
http://www.juraisin.com/lps/english/index.files/aboutus
or
http://www.juraisin.com/lps/english/aboutus

However, this is a huge improvement to the longer & stranger address I was
getting before, so I can live with it. However, if anyone can offer some
insight as to why the names I created for each page are not showing up, it
would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you SO MUCH again!

 

[DavidF]

Congrats on your progress, but I think you are probably generating your HTML
output incorrectly. If you are doing a Save As a web page, you don't want to
do that. That creates unfiltered HTML output and huge files. I tried to load
your home page and it was a multi-megabyte file, and should have been less
than 100 kb. Instead of Save As, use the Publish To The Web, and direct the
output to your hard drive, then upload those files. And before you do that
be sure to untick the VML and PNG options under web options. Delete the old
files off your website before you upload the new. Try that and see if your
pages are named correctly.

DavidF

 

[Say]

Thank you so much, for not only your help but also taking the time to look
at my website.

A strange thing (in case it helps anyone else reading this). I could never
access the FTP site through the Publish to Web and Add a FTP Location. I
used the same username, password, etc, as I did for WS_FTP, but couldn't
connect. I kept getting firewall/proxy server messages or no response. This
time, I entered the file name as
http://www.juraisin.com/lps/english/index.htm first rather than going to Add
a FTP location, and it finally seemed to work.

If you don't mind, could you take another look at the website to see if it
is now in correct form? Or could you tell me how to check the size of the
file?

The names that I used for each page are now showing, so thank you SO SO
much!!! I really appreciate your help & I've been spending hours everyday on
this since last week, so your help is greatly appreciated. Thank you so much
David!!!

 

[DavidF]

You are welcome. Your pages load like lightning compared to last time, but
you should also probably use the compress images function in Publisher so
your images will load a tad faster. "Compress graphics file sizes to create
smaller Publisher Web pages":
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HA011266301033.aspx And don't
forget to always delete all the old files off the server before you upload
the new files when you make major changes in your site. It is just good
housekeeping in my opinion, and it could prevent conflicts with you old
files.

If you want to look at file sizes, which is a good exercise and should be
part of the web site building process, then after you publish to your hard
drive, open Windows Explorer to study the individual files and total folder
sizes under Details view. (A shortcut to Windows Explorer is to just press
the Windows key on your keyboard, plus the E key at the same time) For
example, after you compress the images, publish to a different folder on
your hard drive than before, and compare them to the old files that you
currently have on the site. You should see a difference in the size of the
image files. If you happen to still have copies of old files that you
generated by doing a Save As instead of properly doing a Publish to the Web,
look at the difference in the *.*htm files. You should see a dramatic
difference in size. In fact, even if you don't have the old files, I suggest
that you generate the HTML output to a third folder on your hard drive using
the Save As method of producing unfiltered output like you did before. By
studying the three folders of output, you will learn a lot.

Building a site with Publisher is fairly easy, but there still is a learning
curve as it is a very different medium than producing a print document. You
have to invest some time reading, experimenting, testing... Congrats on
persevering.

DavidF

 

[Say]

I'm so sorry, I didn't realize that I had received a reply on my last post.
Thank you so much for all your help.

I will look into all the points you advised about. Thank you so much again.
Without your help, there is no way I would have even got this far & you
really helped me through some frustrating times of lack of success with
uploading this webpage. Thank you again!