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Message: [QUOTE="Chad Harris, post: 5698980"] Thanks Doug. I usually do put the two groups into the newsgroups slot, when I've rarely "double posted," but I'm exhausted from beating my head up against this simple problem of page numbering "front matter" as Suzanne taught me it's called, with small Roman numerals then the body of my doc with regular pages. I know I'm making something fairly simple hard. I sure appreciate your tips and after some sleep I'm going to try and apply them. I'll get it done--its just a question of when. Thanks very much. CH [/QUOTE]