Undo sections within a chapter in long doc and retain footnote num

[kaye123]

I put my doc together section by section, and then chapter by chapte
using" insert" function. Each chapter starts with new footnote 1. No
because I am making changes to one whole chapter it creates anothe
problem (doesn’t matter what - it is unavoidable) and I am redoing th
same section multiple times. I need to do a smaller section (not th
whole chapter) at a time and retain continuous footnote numbering.

So I need to undo each section in my document while I make changes an
put it together later. Also I am sending it by email to a proof-reader
and I want to send off a few sections at a time, so better if th
footnotes can follow on.

I can’t remember how I cut out sections and repasted without losin
continuous footnote numbering. (maybe I never did). If I do it by cu
and paste my footnotes return to number 1. (as we know)

Is there a better way of doing it than redoing each page by restartin
at the last footnote number from previous section? I lost a few bits o
info off my footnotes so I have another copy I refer to which has bee
useful. So would really like continuous numbering.

Anyone have any advices please? Looked in various tutorials but can’
find answer. Maybe I am not asking the right question
kind regard

 

[Stefan Blom]

In theory, footnotes can be set to restart in one section and be continuous
for the rest of the sections (which I think is what you are trying to
accomplish), but this doesn't work—unless it has been fixed in Word 2013,
which I have not yet tested. The settings in the Footnote and Endnote dialog
box apply to *all* sections (all continuous or all restarted).

As a workaround, consider mixing footnotes and endnotes to create a separate
sequence of numbers.

 

[kaye123]

;493945']In theory, footnotes can be set to restart in one section an
be continuous
for the rest of the sections (which I think is what you are trying to
accomplish), but this doesn't work—unless it has been fixed in Wor
2013,
which I have not yet tested. The settings in the Footnote and Endnot
dialog
box apply to *all* sections (all continuous or all restarted).

As a workaround, consider mixing footnotes and endnotes to create
separate
sequence of numbers.

[/QUOTE]
Hi Stefan

I read a post about working with seperate chapters starting at footnot
1 each time. As far as unhooking goes I managed to alter the document a
it is . It meant a lot more work and I kept having to alter the footnot
tab but it was easy enough. Just a lot of work.

I will keep sections seperate from now and only put them together when
send it to the typesetter. Or she can put them together which I think i
better. Decided to stay with footnotes and the typesetter can undo th
footnote seperator as she goes so so she can capture them. I just hop
the new macro I did in word for altering the way they are displaye
holds. She has worked with footnotes before so I presume her client
removed the seperator. She can put them on the right page. It may tak
longer, and more expensive, but solved my problem with staying wit
footnotes.

Many thanks





"kaye123" (e-mail address removed) wrote in message

I put my doc together section by section, and then chapter by chapter
using" insert" function. Each chapter starts with new footnote 1. Now
because I am making changes to one whole chapter it creates another
problem (doesn’t matter what - it is unavoidable) and I am redoing the
same section multiple times. I need to do a smaller section (not the
whole chapter) at a time and retain continuous footnote numbering.

So I need to undo each section in my document while I make changes and
put it together later. Also I am sending it by email to a proof-reader
and I want to send off a few sections at a time, so better if the
footnotes can follow on.

I can’t remember how I cut out sections and repasted without losing
continuous footnote numbering. (maybe I never did). If I do it by cut
and paste my footnotes return to number 1. (as we know)

Is there a better way of doing it than redoing each page by restarting
at the last footnote number from previous section? I lost a few bit
of
info off my footnotes so I have another copy I refer to which has been
useful. So would really like continuous numbering.

Anyone have any advices please? Looked in various tutorials but can’t
find answer. Maybe I am not asking the right question
kind regard

 

[Stefan Blom]

You mean that you are keeping sections as separate files? That is sometimes
helpful.

If the typesetter accepts PDFs, bringing the separate files together after
you have converted them to PDFs (using freeware PDF converter, for example)
might also be a possibility.

I'm not sure how footnote separators are relevant, but, reading the thread
in a newsreader, I don't get the full context ...

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

;493945']In theory, footnotes can be set to restart in one section and
be continuous
for the rest of the sections (which I think is what you are trying to
accomplish), but this doesn't work—unless it has been fixed in Word
2013,
which I have not yet tested. The settings in the Footnote and Endnote
dialog
box apply to *all* sections (all continuous or all restarted).

As a workaround, consider mixing footnotes and endnotes to create a
separate
sequence of numbers.

Hi Stefan

I read a post about working with seperate chapters starting at footnote
1 each time. As far as unhooking goes I managed to alter the document as
it is . It meant a lot more work and I kept having to alter the footnote
tab but it was easy enough. Just a lot of work.

I will keep sections seperate from now and only put them together when I
send it to the typesetter. Or she can put them together which I think is
better. Decided to stay with footnotes and the typesetter can undo the
footnote seperator as she goes so so she can capture them. I just hope
the new macro I did in word for altering the way they are displayed
holds. She has worked with footnotes before so I presume her clients
removed the seperator. She can put them on the right page. It may take
longer, and more expensive, but solved my problem with staying with
footnotes.

Many thanks





"kaye123" (e-mail address removed) wrote in message

I put my doc together section by section, and then chapter by chapter
using" insert" function. Each chapter starts with new footnote 1. Now
because I am making changes to one whole chapter it creates another
problem (doesn’t matter what - it is unavoidable) and I am redoing the
same section multiple times. I need to do a smaller section (not the
whole chapter) at a time and retain continuous footnote numbering.

So I need to undo each section in my document while I make changes and
put it together later. Also I am sending it by email to a proof-reader
and I want to send off a few sections at a time, so better if the
footnotes can follow on.

I can’t remember how I cut out sections and repasted without losing
continuous footnote numbering. (maybe I never did). If I do it by cut
and paste my footnotes return to number 1. (as we know)

Is there a better way of doing it than redoing each page by restarting
at the last footnote number from previous section? I lost a few bits
of
info off my footnotes so I have another copy I refer to which has been
useful. So would really like continuous numbering.

Anyone have any advices please? Looked in various tutorials but can’t
find answer. Maybe I am not asking the right question
kind regards

 

[kaye123]

;493952']You mean that you are keeping sections as separate files? Tha
is sometimes
helpful.

If the typesetter accepts PDFs, bringing the separate files togethe
after
you have converted them to PDFs (using freeware PDF converter, fo
example)
might also be a possibility.

I'm not sure how footnote separators are relevant, but, reading th
thread
in a newsreader, I don't get the full context ...

[/QUOTE]

Yes sorry. Thought we spoke about this before. My typesetter showed m
how she can only pick up text without footnote in her design package an
said that I would have to remove the footnote line. At the time
thought this was not possible, and started looking at endnotes that
didnt want. However it is possible for her to pick up the text includin
footnotes if she removes the seperator. I just didnt want her gettin
things mixed up and I thought it would be a lot more expensive. If sh
does a section at a time she should be ok. Anyway that is not relevan
to this topic. Shouldnt have mentioned it

 

[Stefan Blom]

But you do know how to delete the footnote separator in a Word document?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

;493952']You mean that you are keeping sections as separate files? That
is sometimes
helpful.

If the typesetter accepts PDFs, bringing the separate files together
after
you have converted them to PDFs (using freeware PDF converter, for
example)
might also be a possibility.

I'm not sure how footnote separators are relevant, but, reading the
thread
in a newsreader, I don't get the full context ...

Yes sorry. Thought we spoke about this before. My typesetter showed me
how she can only pick up text without footnote in her design package and
said that I would have to remove the footnote line. At the time I
thought this was not possible, and started looking at endnotes that I
didnt want. However it is possible for her to pick up the text including
footnotes if she removes the seperator. I just didnt want her getting
things mixed up and I thought it would be a lot more expensive. If she
does a section at a time she should be ok. Anyway that is not relevant
to this topic. Shouldnt have mentioned it.
[/QUOTE]

 

[kaye123]

;493959']But you do know how to delete the footnote separator in a Wor
document?

[/QUOTE]

No not without looking at instructions and I have a set of them that g
through this. Thought it seemed simple enough.Isnt it?
I have another worse problem I am tryng to solve because of macros s
you may hear from me again.
cheer

 

[Stefan Blom]

To work with footnote separators: Switch to Draft view (Word 2007 or later).
Click the References tab, and then click Show Notes. In the footnotes pane,
click the arrow next to the drop down and choose Footnote Separator. You can
then delete the separator (or replace it with something else if you wish).
You can do the same for the Footnote Continuation Separator.

Do post back with additional questions/follow-ups.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

;493959']But you do know how to delete the footnote separator in a Word
document?

No not without looking at instructions and I have a set of them that go
through this. Thought it seemed simple enough.Isnt it?
I have another worse problem I am tryng to solve because of macros so
you may hear from me again.
cheers
[/QUOTE]

 

[kaye123]

;493964']To work with footnote separators: Switch to Draft view (Wor
2007 or later).
Click the References tab, and then click Show Notes. In the footnote
pane,
click the arrow next to the drop down and choose Footnote Separator. Yo
can
then delete the separator (or replace it with something else if yo
wish).
You can do the same for the Footnote Continuation Separator.

Do post back with additional questions/follow-ups.

[/QUOTE]
"kaye123" (e-mail address removed) wrote in message

'Stefan Blom[_3_ Wrote:-
;493959']But you do know how to delete the footnote separator in
Word
document?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


--
kaye123 --

Ok thanks Stefan. I will look at it, But the Footnote Continuatio
Separator?
I wasnt aware of it so I will have a look. The typeseter said to chang
it to a line. I didn't think I could. I will try this.

You will see I responded to the topic "changing footnote to a number b
changing macro "at microsoft community. (I see you are also a member).
thread I started and someone else wanted info on.
As a result I have a real problem and I may have to post again so
hope someone can help once I recreate the problem and I can explain it.
I will continue to try and sove it but I think it is a unique proble
caused by changing my global template. My user name ends with 999
Thought you should know. Dont want to misrepresent.

Thanks for your time agai

 

[Stefan Blom]

Some features are well hidden in Word.

Yes, I contribute to the Microsoft Community as well. Actually, the
Community (formerly Microsoft Answers) is the predecessor of the
microsoft.public.word.* newsgroups, which (a few years back) were hosted on
Microsoft servers. Nowadays, the groups have a life of their own here on
Usenet... Traffic is relatively slow, as you may have noticed.

I'm not sure which thread in the Community you are referring to. Posting a
link would help.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

;493964']To work with footnote separators: Switch to Draft view (Word
2007 or later).
Click the References tab, and then click Show Notes. In the footnotes
pane,
click the arrow next to the drop down and choose Footnote Separator. You
can
then delete the separator (or replace it with something else if you
wish).
You can do the same for the Footnote Continuation Separator.

Do post back with additional questions/follow-ups.

"kaye123" (e-mail address removed) wrote in message

'Stefan Blom[_3_ Wrote:-
;493959']But you do know how to delete the footnote separator in a
Word
document?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


--
kaye123 --

Ok thanks Stefan. I will look at it, But the Footnote Continuation
Separator?
I wasnt aware of it so I will have a look. The typeseter said to change
it to a line. I didn't think I could. I will try this.

You will see I responded to the topic "changing footnote to a number by
changing macro "at microsoft community. (I see you are also a member). A
thread I started and someone else wanted info on.
As a result I have a real problem and I may have to post again so I
hope someone can help once I recreate the problem and I can explain it.
I will continue to try and sove it but I think it is a unique problem
caused by changing my global template. My user name ends with 999.
Thought you should know. Dont want to misrepresent.

Thanks for your time again
[/QUOTE]

 

[kaye123]

"kaye123" (e-mail address removed) wrote in message

'Stefan Blom[_3_ Wrote:-
;493959']But you do know how to delete the footnote separator in
Word
document?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


--
kaye123 --

Ok thanks Stefan. I will look at it, But the Footnote Continuatio
Separator?
I wasnt aware of it so I will have a look. The typeseter said to chang
it to a line. I didn't think I could. I will try this.

You will see I responded to the topic "changing footnote to a number b
changing macro "at microsoft community. (I see you are also a member).
thread I started and someone else wanted info on.
As a result I have a real problem and I may have to post again so
hope someone can help once I recreate the problem and I can explain it.
I will continue to try and sove it but I think it is a unique proble
caused by changing my global template. My user name ends with 999
Thought you should know. Dont want to misrepresent.

Thanks for your time again

Stefan I did reply to you at Microsoft site re the topic "Cant chang
footnote number from superscript in footnotes" but it doesnt seem t
have made it onto the site.
Wow looking at my posts in the past I must have been under stres
judging by my typing. I just want to say thank you for your help on wor
banter and Microsoft. You gave me a lot of assistance on the topi
“Can’t change footnote number from superscript in footnotes” My usernam
was Diana_9999
I am a little bit clearer on how macros work but at first it was s
overwhelming to an intermediate level user. Yes you were right about th
extra code and nobody else pointed this out when they sent me to th
article on how to perform this task, although acknowledged that you wer
correct.
It would be a real help if a new article could be written by Microsof
themselves and show step by step screenshots for users like myself o
better still to write this function in the next version of word. I ha
several people refer me to the only article dealing with my problem tha
must be over 10 years old and no longer correct. Do you have an
influence with Microsoft? It appears you and others on the forum ar
doing part of their job.
Stefan you and all the others on this site and Microsoft are wonderfu
with your time and patience. I have looked at a lot of material o
creating and working with macros but there never seems to be an exampl
that fits your situation and it is difficult to grasp. I am not goo
with technical concepts and reapplying them to other situations.
Isn’t it about time Microsoft supplied comprehensive online interactiv
videos or tutorials for new and intermediate users, even at a price.
have messed up big time and want to try and get out of this rather tha
rely on the goodwill of others who have given me their time. It i
difficult to assist people with elementary knowledge. I have tried t
get one on one training in the things I want to know but no one will d
this as it is not economical. I actually paid someone to implement th
code for superscript problem. He gave me step by step screenshots and
couldn’t have done it without them. I have looked at lots of resource
but none seem to explain the concepts in simple language.

Thanks so muc

 

[Stefan Blom]

Correction: Obviously I meant to write *successor* (not predecessor).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

Some features are well hidden in Word.

Yes, I contribute to the Microsoft Community as well. Actually, the
Community (formerly Microsoft Answers) is the predecessor of the
microsoft.public.word.* newsgroups, which (a few years back) were hosted
on Microsoft servers. Nowadays, the groups have a life of their own here
on Usenet... Traffic is relatively slow, as you may have noticed.

I'm not sure which thread in the Community you are referring to. Posting a
link would help.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

;493964']To work with footnote separators: Switch to Draft view (Word
2007 or later).
Click the References tab, and then click Show Notes. In the footnotes
pane,
click the arrow next to the drop down and choose Footnote Separator. You
can
then delete the separator (or replace it with something else if you
wish).
You can do the same for the Footnote Continuation Separator.

Do post back with additional questions/follow-ups.

"kaye123" (e-mail address removed) wrote in message

'Stefan Blom[_3_ Wrote:-
;493959']But you do know how to delete the footnote separator in a
Word
document?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


--
kaye123 --

Ok thanks Stefan. I will look at it, But the Footnote Continuation
Separator?
I wasnt aware of it so I will have a look. The typeseter said to change
it to a line. I didn't think I could. I will try this.

You will see I responded to the topic "changing footnote to a number by
changing macro "at microsoft community. (I see you are also a member). A
thread I started and someone else wanted info on.
As a result I have a real problem and I may have to post again so I
hope someone can help once I recreate the problem and I can explain it.
I will continue to try and sove it but I think it is a unique problem
caused by changing my global template. My user name ends with 999.
Thought you should know. Dont want to misrepresent.

Thanks for your time again

[/QUOTE]

 

[Stefan Blom]

As an MVP, my influence with Microsoft is limited, actually. I do agree that
there should be a good introduction to vBA. There is a brief intro at the
http://word.mvps.org site, but it is a bit outdated; that is true...

Anyway, thank you for your kind words!

By the way, which thread were you referring to? The one below?

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...cript-in/38cb81ba-c95c-4909-8acb-8aaa492a6c22

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"kaye123" (e-mail address removed) wrote in message

'Stefan Blom[_3_ Wrote:-
;493959']But you do know how to delete the footnote separator in a
Word
document?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


--
kaye123 --

Ok thanks Stefan. I will look at it, But the Footnote Continuation
Separator?
I wasnt aware of it so I will have a look. The typeseter said to change
it to a line. I didn't think I could. I will try this.

You will see I responded to the topic "changing footnote to a number by
changing macro "at microsoft community. (I see you are also a member). A
thread I started and someone else wanted info on.
As a result I have a real problem and I may have to post again so I
hope someone can help once I recreate the problem and I can explain it.
I will continue to try and sove it but I think it is a unique problem
caused by changing my global template. My user name ends with 999.
Thought you should know. Dont want to misrepresent.

Thanks for your time again

Stefan I did reply to you at Microsoft site re the topic "Cant change
footnote number from superscript in footnotes" but it doesnt seem to
have made it onto the site.
Wow looking at my posts in the past I must have been under stress
judging by my typing. I just want to say thank you for your help on word
banter and Microsoft. You gave me a lot of assistance on the topic
“Can’t change footnote number from superscript in footnotes” My username
was Diana_9999
I am a little bit clearer on how macros work but at first it was so
overwhelming to an intermediate level user. Yes you were right about the
extra code and nobody else pointed this out when they sent me to the
article on how to perform this task, although acknowledged that you were
correct.
It would be a real help if a new article could be written by Microsoft
themselves and show step by step screenshots for users like myself or
better still to write this function in the next version of word. I had
several people refer me to the only article dealing with my problem that
must be over 10 years old and no longer correct. Do you have any
influence with Microsoft? It appears you and others on the forum are
doing part of their job.
Stefan you and all the others on this site and Microsoft are wonderful
with your time and patience. I have looked at a lot of material on
creating and working with macros but there never seems to be an example
that fits your situation and it is difficult to grasp. I am not good
with technical concepts and reapplying them to other situations.
Isn’t it about time Microsoft supplied comprehensive online interactive
videos or tutorials for new and intermediate users, even at a price. I
have messed up big time and want to try and get out of this rather than
rely on the goodwill of others who have given me their time. It is
difficult to assist people with elementary knowledge. I have tried to
get one on one training in the things I want to know but no one will do
this as it is not economical. I actually paid someone to implement the
code for superscript problem. He gave me step by step screenshots and I
couldn’t have done it without them. I have looked at lots of resources
but none seem to explain the concepts in simple language.

Thanks so much

 

[kaye123]

;493976']Some features are well hidden in Word.

Yes, I contribute to the Microsoft Community as well. Actually, the
Community (formerly Microsoft Answers) is the predecessor of the
microsoft.public.word.* newsgroups, which (a few years back) were hoste
on
Microsoft servers. Nowadays, the groups have a life of their own here o

Usenet... Traffic is relatively slow, as you may have noticed.

I'm not sure which thread in the Community you are referring to. Postin
a
link would help.

[/QUOTE]

Hello Stefan
Strange I don’t see my message from last night and the one you jus
sent. I had just written another one that I haven’t sent. Yet I coul
see it in the email notification

Yes the topic was the one you gave the Link to
http://tinyurl.com/d7293yo
I got a new code that was taken from my document I had sent someone, s
my paid "expert" added the extra code. Now I have lost "the fix" i
because my charts I produce in Word kept asking me if I wanted to chang
normal template etc. etc. and then lots of other messages. I must hav
done something wrong. Well I know I did. So I now don’t have my fix an
I have corrupted charts. Oh well. I will see if my expert will help ou
if I can’t find a way of fixing this, but he helped me after work a
12pm so must be very busy. I have printed the three pages I got from th
forum and studied them again.
Microsoft should listen to the experts on the forum who know what i
happening at the user level Pity.
Once again thank you