Unexpected alignment when using styles for headings 1, 1.1, 1.1.1

[Liontamer]

Hello All
My OS = Windows XP Professional Media Center Ed, SP2
Question = MS Word 2007
What I am experiencing: I am trying to use the styles for lists. The
headings I'm using are 1, then 1.1, then 1.1.1, then sometimes 1.1.1.1 Okay,
now I've started creating my document, and it was going quite well for a
couple of pages. (Yippie!) But then the mean ol "gremlin" came out. Here's
what happened. When I hit the enter button at the end of a Heading 1.1.1
paragraph, the cursor ends the paragraph and goes to the next line. (This is
not the problem yet.) Now, I press the Heading 2 Style for 1.1 and I get my
next section of my document (in my current document it's 6.3). However, the
6.3 is surrounded by a box. So, I proceed to type the line for that section
6.3. It types out correctly. Then I hit enter. And the cursor does
something unexpected. It raises up slightly above the line in a "superscript
position" just slightly above the line itself. (I am now confused.) Because
what should have happened is the cursor needed to go to the next line below
where I just got done typing. (Now wait the problem gets better!)

(Okay, me being me, I try endlessly to tame the Lion. I try to make a nice
juicy steak. No luck.) But in actuality here's what I did next. I hit the
enter key again. And the cursor drops down one line, but it stays at the
same location. In other words, it's still at the end of the line just above.
(utt-o Did I do something wrong? I don't think so.) (So, I continue my
quest to tame this beast.)

I right click the line just above (that's my 6.3 line) and I click the
paragraph symbol to see the paragraph marks. I'm hoping to get some clues as
to what's going on in my document. (I wanna tame that beast!) And now I
encounter a symbol looking like an anchor. The anchor symbol hangs to the
right of the box surrounding the line 6.3, just off the paragraph symbol too.
(Why this is so, I don't know.)

So, I do some comparisons between my lines 6.2 and 6.3. And what do I
discover? The little anchor symbol is in different spots on both my lines.
(Ah Ha!)

On line 6.2, the anchor symbol is just left and below the line number 6.2
itself. It actually appears below the box surrounding line 6.2 and at the
same level as line 6.2.1. (That's not where the anchor is for my line 6.3)
So, this must be why I'm having this problem. I just don't know what to do
about it.

I've currently read some of Shauna Kelly's (MVP) pages for Word 2002 and
2003, but that's not up to date for 2007. However, her pages have most
definitely helped me understand and clarify some basic stuff about Word.
She's really terrific. Visit her site for some background on prior verisions
of Word.

Well, I know my problem has something to do with where this anchor symbol
appears on my line 6.3. It may have something to do with formating. I just
haven't learnt enough yet about how this all works yet. (So much to read.
My head hurts.)

So, if any of you people understand this and can help then I'd really
appreciate it. There's just got to be a way to control what's happening here
in my document. And I'd like to know how it got that way too. I just don't
understand it. I was doing the same thing I did in prior parts of my
document.

Have a nice day to all of you.

 

[Stefan Blom]

Since you are seeing an anchor, could you be typing in a text box?

~~~
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

 

[Stefan Blom]

Another possibility is that you have inadvertently saved frame formatting to
your Heading 2 style.

To remove such formatting: In the Styles pane (Ctrl+Shift+Alt+S),
right-click the Heading 2 entry and choose Modify from the context menu. In
the Modify Style dialog box, click the Format button, and then click Frame.
Click Remove Frame, and then click OK to close the Modify Style dialog box
again.

~~~
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

 

[Liontamer]

Thank you so much for your attention to this matter. Yes, I am typing in a
text box.

You know, I have done so much work trying to figure this out. Today alone,
I spent three hours scanning through large volumes on Word 2007. I just
can't believe it. I mean, I'm trying to find a picture of this anchor symbol
in an illustration within these volumes. I reviewed indexes looking up what
I felt may have been relevant key words. I reviewed tables of contents.
Books looked at: Microsoft Office Word 2007 Inside Out (I also ordered a copy
of it recently. And I expect delivery in about 7 - 14 days.) By the way, I
scanned every single page. But not one illustration showing this anchor
symbol. In addition, it seems impossible to hone in on this symbol using the
books index. Gee, this seems like such a great book too. But why didn't
they include a chapter of all kinds of paragraph symbols one might find while
using this program? I'm planning on writing either Kathy Murray or Mary
Milhollon about this situation.

If you knew my background and prior experience wtih computers then you'll
completely understand my disappointment at not being able to easily locate a
definition of this anchor symbol. Gosh, with a proper definition of this
symbol, I may have been able to connect the dots using my experience to debug
this problem.

Oh my, what a hassle this has been. I figured it must have had to do with
paragraph symbols, formatting symbols, bookmarks, etc. But go review, the
Inside Out book (or the next book, see below) and try to find a picture,
definition and explaination of this text box anchor symbol. You won't find
it.

Another book: Word 2007 Step By Step (I believe that was the name of it.)
I review the index and contents, went to various locations in this book too,
and I even flipped through every page looking for this anchor symbol. No
luck! Yuck!

Now, here's an interesting thing. I compared the format symbols of a prior
paragraph showing the anchor. And the anchor appears just left and below the
heading line number. This means it must be able to be controlled. It must
be able to be moved somehow. But how? And, because the anchor on the 6.3
line in my current document is to the right of the text box and raised in a
sort-of superscripted position, then the paragraph mark for the next line
appears just to the right of that anchor, even below it appears another
paragraph symbol on the next line. So, any text which I type will be out of
sink with prior text in my document. Gee Whiz. This is making me bannanas!
And I'm not a monkey. I like lions, and I enjoy taming them.

 

[Stefan Blom]

For a description of object anchors, see
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/drwgrphcs/anchors.htm.

 

[Liontamer]

I have discovered by trial and error, frame controls. I've tried:
"...right-click the Heading 2 entry and choose Modify from the context menu.
In the Modify Style dialog box, click the Format button, and then click
Frame. Click Remove Frame, and then click OK to close the Modify Style dialog
box again." Yes, I did this, but I don't every recall playing around with
these controls before. So, I just don't understand how this came to be in
the first place? Recall, however, when I click on a prior paragraph like
line 6.2, I see the same text box, I see the same anchor symbol, but the
anchor symbol is to the left of the text box. I believe it's just left of
the heading line number 6.2 and slightly below it. Again, this makes me feel
that having a text box is ok and having the anchor appear just left of the
box is also ok. Can you understand how I get the idea that this is just part
of the built in style for Heading 1.1 My new friend Stefan, I didn't put it
there. I don't even know how to properly do this now. I know there's a
difference between adding a permanent and temporary style. But I still have
to study this stuff a bit more. The point, however, is I'm just using the
built in heading style.

How did things get all messed up? The anchor symbol moved to the right of
the text box. Now, new paragraphs start to the right of the anchor symbol
just right of the text box. Because of this, I can't finish the rest of my
document. And I've got much more stuff to do. The books, I've described
aren't much help. Sadly, cause they look like such great books. Expecially
Inside Out.

I've got to figure out what caused this problem. I've got to understand how
to reverse the problem. I've got to figure out how to move around that dar
gone anchor symbol. This stuff has got to be more clear. You know, when you
manipulate a piece of art, you've got those handles, right. You even have a
rotate handle. But, at least, you can look in a book and learn about this
stuff clearly. It's pretty simple to learn that the handles resize the
graphic and the rotate handle actually rotates the graphic 360 degrees. Why
can't they explain this anchor symbol more clearly to us. (I'm disappointed
in them for not clearly explaining this in their almost one thousand page
reference book. However, I still luv's 'em, cause nobody's perfect. But
computers are bery bery exact, you know. So, ...)

Yesterday, I even looked at the Deluxe (OMG) MS Office Word 2007 book. No
luck here either. This book is about 1400 pages long. I've got a headache
from all this research.

Hopefully, I'll be able to email Kathy Murray or Mary Milhollon about this
situation. They really need to be aware of this issue. Because somebody out
there in Never Never Land is going to run into this problem too. And if
they're reading my comments and hopefully your answers to the situation then
perhaps they'll save themselves some serious time loss and aggravation. Oh,
the pain. But I'm gonna get to the bottom of this if it takes another week.
Remember, I tame lions.

Can't help it. I just love lions.


I found out about a really helpful person by the name of Shauna Kelly (MVP).
So, I started studying her web pages on prior verisions of Word 2002, etc.
And I got a better idea about how to use this Word program. You know, I love
those people at Microsoft. But sometimes, I wonder what they're eatting,
drinking and smoking over there.

 

[Liontamer]

Stefan, I just wrote an email to Mary Milhollon [ Author (1 of 3) to: MS
Office Word 2007 Inside Out ] advising her of our discussion and relating my
ideas to help her and her associates improve an all ready outstanding
publication. It's my little contribution to everyone. And, hopefully, it
will help them in updated revisions of their publication.

Also, I did just make an attempt to Remove Frame as you stated in your post.
It seems to have worked. And I have typed out a couple of more paragraphs
in my document, just to test what happens. And it seems that the lion is
somewhat satiated for now. However, there's still a lack of an understanding
to how this situation came to be in the first place? I want to understand
more about this just in case it happens again. Cause if it does, then I'll
just have to make a steak medium rare for my lion. And you know how I love
lions. Gotta keep 'em happy.

So, I'll await further information regarding this situation.

Oh yes, I've got another issue: How come it's so hard to control where the
text starts on the line for Heading Style 1.1? I mean, the section number
appears like: 6.4 But the text starts about an inch or so
in from the section number.
Kind of like the line above this one.
So, what's causing this? How can I modify the text line to start closer to
the section number in the built in Heading Style 1.1? This is so confusing.
Believe me, I've tried stuff. But my lion won't listen. Doesn't jump
through the big hoop. What to do? I donno! I fed the lion a good dinner,
and he just looks at me with those big lion eyes and roars! Gosh, it's
scarey sometimes. I know my lion luvs me. He's just giving me a hard time.

It's been a long day for me. Be well everybody. I've got to rest now.

 

[Stefan Blom]

Stefan, I just wrote an email to Mary Milhollon [ Author (1 of 3) to: MS
Office Word 2007 Inside Out ] advising her of our discussion and relating
my
ideas to help her and her associates improve an all ready outstanding
publication. It's my little contribution to everyone. And, hopefully, it
will help them in updated revisions of their publication.

Also, I did just make an attempt to Remove Frame as you stated in your
post.
It seems to have worked. And I have typed out a couple of more paragraphs
in my document, just to test what happens. And it seems that the lion is
somewhat satiated for now. However, there's still a lack of an
understanding
to how this situation came to be in the first place? I want to understand
more about this just in case it happens again. Cause if it does, then
I'll
just have to make a steak medium rare for my lion. And you know how I
love
lions. Gotta keep 'em happy.

Well, it's difficult to tell how it happened. Some settings can be
automatically included with a style if you select the "Automatically update"
option in the Modify Style dialog box, but I doubt that frame formatting
belongs to that category. Updating a style to match the selection with the
insertion point inside a frame is a more likely cause.

So, I'll await further information regarding this situation.

Oh yes, I've got another issue: How come it's so hard to control where
the
text starts on the line for Heading Style 1.1? I mean, the section number
appears like: 6.4 But the text starts about an inch or
so
in from the section number.

By default, Word inserts a tab character after the number and, depending on
the width of the number, this might push the text to the next default tab
stop, which might be less desirable.

To fix the problem, you will have to adjust the settings for indentation at
the affected numbering level: Place the insertion point in the first
top-level paragraph of the list (in a list of headings, this means in the
first Heading 1 paragraph of the document). Then click Home tab | Multilevel
List | Define New Multilevel List. In the dialog box, click "Level 2." Click
the More button to see all options. Change the "Position" settings as
appropriate. In particular, you may want to pay attention to the "Add tab
stop at" option. For more, see
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numbering/OutlineNumbering.html.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

 

[Liontamer]

Well, my friend Stefan, I appreciate your attention to my concerns. Thank
you. However, I've got to both investigate some of your suggestions and
integrate more study time amoungst my other responsibilities. I will inform
you of my progress in a few days time. I am so happy to discover people like
you exist. It's so important. And it's so helpful.

Stefan, I just wrote an email to Mary Milhollon [ Author (1 of 3) to: MS
Office Word 2007 Inside Out ] advising her of our discussion and relating
my
ideas to help her and her associates improve an all ready outstanding
publication. It's my little contribution to everyone. And, hopefully, it
will help them in updated revisions of their publication.

Also, I did just make an attempt to Remove Frame as you stated in your
post.
It seems to have worked. And I have typed out a couple of more paragraphs
in my document, just to test what happens. And it seems that the lion is
somewhat satiated for now. However, there's still a lack of an
understanding
to how this situation came to be in the first place? I want to understand
more about this just in case it happens again. Cause if it does, then
I'll
just have to make a steak medium rare for my lion. And you know how I
love
lions. Gotta keep 'em happy.

Well, it's difficult to tell how it happened. Some settings can be
automatically included with a style if you select the "Automatically update"
option in the Modify Style dialog box, but I doubt that frame formatting
belongs to that category. Updating a style to match the selection with the
insertion point inside a frame is a more likely cause.

So, I'll await further information regarding this situation.

Oh yes, I've got another issue: How come it's so hard to control where
the
text starts on the line for Heading Style 1.1? I mean, the section number
appears like: 6.4 But the text starts about an inch or
so
in from the section number.

By default, Word inserts a tab character after the number and, depending on
the width of the number, this might push the text to the next default tab
stop, which might be less desirable.

To fix the problem, you will have to adjust the settings for indentation at
the affected numbering level: Place the insertion point in the first
top-level paragraph of the list (in a list of headings, this means in the
first Heading 1 paragraph of the document). Then click Home tab | Multilevel
List | Define New Multilevel List. In the dialog box, click "Level 2." Click
the More button to see all options. Change the "Position" settings as
appropriate. In particular, you may want to pay attention to the "Add tab
stop at" option. For more, see
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numbering/OutlineNumbering.html.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

Kind of like the line above this one.
So, what's causing this? How can I modify the text line to start closer
to
the section number in the built in Heading Style 1.1? This is so
confusing.
Believe me, I've tried stuff. But my lion won't listen. Doesn't jump
through the big hoop. What to do? I donno! I fed the lion a good
dinner,
and he just looks at me with those big lion eyes and roars! Gosh, it's
scarey sometimes. I know my lion luvs me. He's just giving me a hard
time.

It's been a long day for me. Be well everybody. I've got to rest now.

 

[Liontamer]

Okay Maestro Stefan:
I just followed these directions you gave:

"To fix the problem, you will have to adjust the settings for indentation at
the affected numbering level: Place the insertion point in the first
top-level paragraph of the list (in a list of headings, this means in the
first Heading 1 paragraph of the document). Then click Home tab | Multilevel
List | Define New Multilevel List. In the dialog box, click "Level 2." Click
the More button to see all options. Change the "Position" settings as
appropriate. In particular, you may want to pay attention to the "Add tab
stop at" option."

When I got to the More Options, I removed <Follow with Tab> and replaced it
with <Follow with Space>. And it worked !!! Yippie !!!

However, I kindof follow the logic behind returning to the first Heading 1
paragraph. But I'm not too sure "why?" I've got to return there to adjust
the level 2 parameters. I mean, it kind of makes sense, cause it's where the
multi-level list starts out. But will it be the same if I just returned to
the first instance of the Heading 1.1 paragraph? And just adjusted the
parameters from there? Which is the first instance at level two of the list
itselt. Humm. It seems, somewhat logical your way though. If no other
reason, because Heading 1 starts the whole list process. Just wondering how
you explain this need to return all the way back to the first instance of
Heading 1.

I'm gonna make time to follow the link you provided to Shauna's page. I'll
get back to you when I'm done. She's pretty cool, isn't she? Well, let's
see what she writes now.

Stefan, I just wrote an email to Mary Milhollon [ Author (1 of 3) to: MS
Office Word 2007 Inside Out ] advising her of our discussion and relating
my
ideas to help her and her associates improve an all ready outstanding
publication. It's my little contribution to everyone. And, hopefully, it
will help them in updated revisions of their publication.

Also, I did just make an attempt to Remove Frame as you stated in your
post.
It seems to have worked. And I have typed out a couple of more paragraphs
in my document, just to test what happens. And it seems that the lion is
somewhat satiated for now. However, there's still a lack of an
understanding
to how this situation came to be in the first place? I want to understand
more about this just in case it happens again. Cause if it does, then
I'll
just have to make a steak medium rare for my lion. And you know how I
love
lions. Gotta keep 'em happy.

Well, it's difficult to tell how it happened. Some settings can be
automatically included with a style if you select the "Automatically update"
option in the Modify Style dialog box, but I doubt that frame formatting
belongs to that category. Updating a style to match the selection with the
insertion point inside a frame is a more likely cause.

So, I'll await further information regarding this situation.

Oh yes, I've got another issue: How come it's so hard to control where
the
text starts on the line for Heading Style 1.1? I mean, the section number
appears like: 6.4 But the text starts about an inch or
so
in from the section number.

By default, Word inserts a tab character after the number and, depending on
the width of the number, this might push the text to the next default tab
stop, which might be less desirable.

To fix the problem, you will have to adjust the settings for indentation at
the affected numbering level: Place the insertion point in the first
top-level paragraph of the list (in a list of headings, this means in the
first Heading 1 paragraph of the document). Then click Home tab | Multilevel
List | Define New Multilevel List. In the dialog box, click "Level 2." Click
the More button to see all options. Change the "Position" settings as
appropriate. In particular, you may want to pay attention to the "Add tab
stop at" option. For more, see
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numbering/OutlineNumbering.html.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

Kind of like the line above this one.
So, what's causing this? How can I modify the text line to start closer
to
the section number in the built in Heading Style 1.1? This is so
confusing.
Believe me, I've tried stuff. But my lion won't listen. Doesn't jump
through the big hoop. What to do? I donno! I fed the lion a good
dinner,
and he just looks at me with those big lion eyes and roars! Gosh, it's
scarey sometimes. I know my lion luvs me. He's just giving me a hard
time.

It's been a long day for me. Be well everybody. I've got to rest now.

 

[Stefan Blom]

The reason to place the insertion point in the first top-level paragraph of
a list (which for heading numbering means the first Heading 1 paragraph of
the document) is that Word might restart the list if you make the
modification with the insertion point elsewhere.

The obvious follow-up question is, "Why does Word restart the lists?" And
the answer is that I don't know, but I suspect that it is some sort of
preparation for creating a new list.

Note that when numbering is associated with paragraph styles, you can easily
fix any unwanted restarts by using Ctrl+Q (which resets paragraph formatting
to that of the underlying style), but for lists that are not using styles
there is no easy way to fix the issue.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

Okay Maestro Stefan:
I just followed these directions you gave:

"To fix the problem, you will have to adjust the settings for indentation
at
the affected numbering level: Place the insertion point in the first
top-level paragraph of the list (in a list of headings, this means in the
first Heading 1 paragraph of the document). Then click Home tab |
Multilevel
List | Define New Multilevel List. In the dialog box, click "Level 2."
Click
the More button to see all options. Change the "Position" settings as
appropriate. In particular, you may want to pay attention to the "Add tab
stop at" option."

When I got to the More Options, I removed <Follow with Tab> and replaced
it
with <Follow with Space>. And it worked !!! Yippie !!!

However, I kindof follow the logic behind returning to the first Heading 1
paragraph. But I'm not too sure "why?" I've got to return there to adjust
the level 2 parameters. I mean, it kind of makes sense, cause it's where
the
multi-level list starts out. But will it be the same if I just returned
to
the first instance of the Heading 1.1 paragraph? And just adjusted the
parameters from there? Which is the first instance at level two of the
list
itselt. Humm. It seems, somewhat logical your way though. If no other
reason, because Heading 1 starts the whole list process. Just wondering
how
you explain this need to return all the way back to the first instance of
Heading 1.

I'm gonna make time to follow the link you provided to Shauna's page.
I'll
get back to you when I'm done. She's pretty cool, isn't she? Well, let's
see what she writes now.

Stefan, I just wrote an email to Mary Milhollon [ Author (1 of 3) to:
MS
Office Word 2007 Inside Out ] advising her of our discussion and
relating
my
ideas to help her and her associates improve an all ready outstanding
publication. It's my little contribution to everyone. And, hopefully,
it
will help them in updated revisions of their publication.

Also, I did just make an attempt to Remove Frame as you stated in your
post.
It seems to have worked. And I have typed out a couple of more
paragraphs
in my document, just to test what happens. And it seems that the lion
is
somewhat satiated for now. However, there's still a lack of an
understanding
to how this situation came to be in the first place? I want to
understand
more about this just in case it happens again. Cause if it does, then
I'll
just have to make a steak medium rare for my lion. And you know how I
love
lions. Gotta keep 'em happy.

Well, it's difficult to tell how it happened. Some settings can be
automatically included with a style if you select the "Automatically
update"
option in the Modify Style dialog box, but I doubt that frame formatting
belongs to that category. Updating a style to match the selection with
the
insertion point inside a frame is a more likely cause.

So, I'll await further information regarding this situation.

Oh yes, I've got another issue: How come it's so hard to control where
the
text starts on the line for Heading Style 1.1? I mean, the section
number
appears like: 6.4 But the text starts about an inch
or
so
in from the section number.

By default, Word inserts a tab character after the number and, depending
on
the width of the number, this might push the text to the next default tab
stop, which might be less desirable.

To fix the problem, you will have to adjust the settings for indentation
at
the affected numbering level: Place the insertion point in the first
top-level paragraph of the list (in a list of headings, this means in the
first Heading 1 paragraph of the document). Then click Home tab |
Multilevel
List | Define New Multilevel List. In the dialog box, click "Level 2."
Click
the More button to see all options. Change the "Position" settings as
appropriate. In particular, you may want to pay attention to the "Add tab
stop at" option. For more, see
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numbering/OutlineNumbering.html.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

Kind of like the line above this one.
So, what's causing this? How can I modify the text line to start
closer
to
the section number in the built in Heading Style 1.1? This is so
confusing.
Believe me, I've tried stuff. But my lion won't listen. Doesn't jump
through the big hoop. What to do? I donno! I fed the lion a good
dinner,
and he just looks at me with those big lion eyes and roars! Gosh, it's
scarey sometimes. I know my lion luvs me. He's just giving me a hard
time.

It's been a long day for me. Be well everybody. I've got to rest now.

:

Another possibility is that you have inadvertently saved frame
formatting
to
your Heading 2 style.

To remove such formatting: In the Styles pane (Ctrl+Shift+Alt+S),
right-click the Heading 2 entry and choose Modify from the context
menu.
In
the Modify Style dialog box, click the Format button, and then click
Frame.
Click Remove Frame, and then click OK to close the Modify Style dialog
box
again.

~~~
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


Since you are seeing an anchor, could you be typing in a text box?

~~~
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


Hello All
My OS = Windows XP Professional Media Center Ed, SP2
Question = MS Word 2007
What I am experiencing: I am trying to use the styles for lists.
The
headings I'm using are 1, then 1.1, then 1.1.1, then sometimes
1.1.1.1
Okay,
now I've started creating my document, and it was going quite well
for
a
couple of pages. (Yippie!) But then the mean ol "gremlin" came
out.
Here's
what happened. When I hit the enter button at the end of a Heading
1.1.1
paragraph, the cursor ends the paragraph and goes to the next line.
(This
is
not the problem yet.) Now, I press the Heading 2 Style for 1.1 and
I
get
my
next section of my document (in my current document it's 6.3).
However,
the
6.3 is surrounded by a box. So, I proceed to type the line for
that
section
6.3. It types out correctly. Then I hit enter. And the cursor
does
something unexpected. It raises up slightly above the line in a
"superscript
position" just slightly above the line itself. (I am now
confused.)
Because
what should have happened is the cursor needed to go to the next
line
below
where I just got done typing. (Now wait the problem gets better!)

(Okay, me being me, I try endlessly to tame the Lion. I try to
make a
nice
juicy steak. No luck.) But in actuality here's what I did next.
I
hit
the
enter key again. And the cursor drops down one line, but it stays
at
the
same location. In other words, it's still at the end of the line
just
above.
(utt-o Did I do something wrong? I don't think so.) (So, I
continue
my
quest to tame this beast.)

I right click the line just above (that's my 6.3 line) and I click
the
paragraph symbol to see the paragraph marks. I'm hoping to get
some
clues
as
to what's going on in my document. (I wanna tame that beast!) And
now I
encounter a symbol looking like an anchor. The anchor symbol hangs
to
the
right of the box surrounding the line 6.3, just off the paragraph
symbol
too.
(Why this is so, I don't know.)

So, I do some comparisons between my lines 6.2 and 6.3. And what
do I
discover? The little anchor symbol is in different spots on both
my
lines.
(Ah Ha!)

On line 6.2, the anchor symbol is just left and below the line
number
6.2
itself. It actually appears below the box surrounding line 6.2 and
at
the
same level as line 6.2.1. (That's not where the anchor is for my
line
6.3)
So, this must be why I'm having this problem. I just don't know
what
to
do
about it.

I've currently read some of Shauna Kelly's (MVP) pages for Word
2002
and
2003, but that's not up to date for 2007. However, her pages have
most
definitely helped me understand and clarify some basic stuff about
Word.
She's really terrific. Visit her site for some background on prior
verisions
of Word.

Well, I know my problem has something to do with where this anchor
symbol
appears on my line 6.3. It may have something to do with formating.
I
just
haven't learnt enough yet about how this all works yet. (So much
to
read.
My head hurts.)

So, if any of you people understand this and can help then I'd
really
appreciate it. There's just got to be a way to control what's
happening
here
in my document. And I'd like to know how it got that way too. I
just
don't
understand it. I was doing the same thing I did in prior parts of
my
document.

Have a nice day to all of you.

 

[Liontamer]

Stefan, just an update on my progress: Once again, I visited Shauna's site
on numbering... For the most part, I've gotten a better understanding of how
things work from this site. I'm at a 70% level of understanding, right now.
I also visited the newgroup page. Wow...I can certainly see from the one or
two posts I've looked at that I'm not alone. One guy said: "I'll buy it" a
dummies book, if it were available. Thank goodness I'm not alone. To all
those of you out there who are reading this post: Join me in thanking these
MVP's for helping all of us to understand this stuff.

Stefan, I just wrote an email to Mary Milhollon [ Author (1 of 3) to: MS
Office Word 2007 Inside Out ] advising her of our discussion and relating
my
ideas to help her and her associates improve an all ready outstanding
publication. It's my little contribution to everyone. And, hopefully, it
will help them in updated revisions of their publication.

Also, I did just make an attempt to Remove Frame as you stated in your
post.
It seems to have worked. And I have typed out a couple of more paragraphs
in my document, just to test what happens. And it seems that the lion is
somewhat satiated for now. However, there's still a lack of an
understanding
to how this situation came to be in the first place? I want to understand
more about this just in case it happens again. Cause if it does, then
I'll
just have to make a steak medium rare for my lion. And you know how I
love
lions. Gotta keep 'em happy.

Well, it's difficult to tell how it happened. Some settings can be
automatically included with a style if you select the "Automatically update"
option in the Modify Style dialog box, but I doubt that frame formatting
belongs to that category. Updating a style to match the selection with the
insertion point inside a frame is a more likely cause.

So, I'll await further information regarding this situation.

Oh yes, I've got another issue: How come it's so hard to control where
the
text starts on the line for Heading Style 1.1? I mean, the section number
appears like: 6.4 But the text starts about an inch or
so
in from the section number.

By default, Word inserts a tab character after the number and, depending on
the width of the number, this might push the text to the next default tab
stop, which might be less desirable.

To fix the problem, you will have to adjust the settings for indentation at
the affected numbering level: Place the insertion point in the first
top-level paragraph of the list (in a list of headings, this means in the
first Heading 1 paragraph of the document). Then click Home tab | Multilevel
List | Define New Multilevel List. In the dialog box, click "Level 2." Click
the More button to see all options. Change the "Position" settings as
appropriate. In particular, you may want to pay attention to the "Add tab
stop at" option. For more, see
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numbering/OutlineNumbering.html.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

Kind of like the line above this one.
So, what's causing this? How can I modify the text line to start closer
to
the section number in the built in Heading Style 1.1? This is so
confusing.
Believe me, I've tried stuff. But my lion won't listen. Doesn't jump
through the big hoop. What to do? I donno! I fed the lion a good
dinner,
and he just looks at me with those big lion eyes and roars! Gosh, it's
scarey sometimes. I know my lion luvs me. He's just giving me a hard
time.

It's been a long day for me. Be well everybody. I've got to rest now.

 

[Liontamer]

Stefan: Here's an update on my progress.
I visited the site: http://word.mvps.org/faqs/drwgrphcs/anchors.htm. It's
nice to see that something exists to explain these anchors. However, after a
quick read through of "Working with Anchors," I am going to pass on this for
now. Because this is just too deep for me to concentrate upon right now.

Originally, I wanted to know why I saw the anchor. And you pretty much
explained the situation in a prior post. I must have done something
accidentally regarding frames. Or the program did it on it's own. Who knows.

I do recall trying to move the anchor by click and drag. And I do recall
that it didn't move with that technique. However, I am glad to see that with
your previous advice I was able to remove it and get back to my document
project.

I expect to receive a book on Word 2007 Inside Out soon via the mail. I
plan stepping through it and learning more about this program as time permits.

For now, I'm going to say thank you again. All I can say, is this is quite
a learning experience.

 

[Liontamer]

Stefan: New question, but arrising from the same situation we've been talking
about: Once I've attained the result I want in my document, I want to save
the list format as a template for future documents.

Now, I've noticed an option for doing this from the main Office Drop Down
Options List. I wonder, however, that if I select the option to Save As A
Template then will just the formatiing be saved of my list? Or am I saving
the whole document as a template text and all. My guess is it's the former.
But I'm not 100% sure here. Comment requested. : )

 

[Stefan Blom]

See the reply in the new thread.

 

[Liontamer]

Note: Continued at 07/27/08 thread.

Hello All
My OS = Windows XP Professional Media Center Ed, SP2
Question = MS Word 2007
What I am experiencing: I am trying to use the styles for lists. The
headings I'm using are 1, then 1.1, then 1.1.1, then sometimes 1.1.1.1 Okay,
now I've started creating my document, and it was going quite well for a
couple of pages. (Yippie!) But then the mean ol "gremlin" came out. Here's
what happened. When I hit the enter button at the end of a Heading 1.1.1
paragraph, the cursor ends the paragraph and goes to the next line. (This is
not the problem yet.) Now, I press the Heading 2 Style for 1.1 and I get my
next section of my document (in my current document it's 6.3). However, the
6.3 is surrounded by a box. So, I proceed to type the line for that section
6.3. It types out correctly. Then I hit enter. And the cursor does
something unexpected. It raises up slightly above the line in a "superscript
position" just slightly above the line itself. (I am now confused.) Because
what should have happened is the cursor needed to go to the next line below
where I just got done typing. (Now wait the problem gets better!)

(Okay, me being me, I try endlessly to tame the Lion. I try to make a nice
juicy steak. No luck.) But in actuality here's what I did next. I hit the
enter key again. And the cursor drops down one line, but it stays at the
same location. In other words, it's still at the end of the line just above.
(utt-o Did I do something wrong? I don't think so.) (So, I continue my
quest to tame this beast.)

I right click the line just above (that's my 6.3 line) and I click the
paragraph symbol to see the paragraph marks. I'm hoping to get some clues as
to what's going on in my document. (I wanna tame that beast!) And now I
encounter a symbol looking like an anchor. The anchor symbol hangs to the
right of the box surrounding the line 6.3, just off the paragraph symbol too.
(Why this is so, I don't know.)

So, I do some comparisons between my lines 6.2 and 6.3. And what do I
discover? The little anchor symbol is in different spots on both my lines.
(Ah Ha!)

On line 6.2, the anchor symbol is just left and below the line number 6.2
itself. It actually appears below the box surrounding line 6.2 and at the
same level as line 6.2.1. (That's not where the anchor is for my line 6.3)
So, this must be why I'm having this problem. I just don't know what to do
about it.

I've currently read some of Shauna Kelly's (MVP) pages for Word 2002 and
2003, but that's not up to date for 2007. However, her pages have most
definitely helped me understand and clarify some basic stuff about Word.
She's really terrific. Visit her site for some background on prior verisions
of Word.

Well, I know my problem has something to do with where this anchor symbol
appears on my line 6.3. It may have something to do with formating. I just
haven't learnt enough yet about how this all works yet. (So much to read.
My head hurts.)

So, if any of you people understand this and can help then I'd really
appreciate it. There's just got to be a way to control what's happening here
in my document. And I'd like to know how it got that way too. I just don't
understand it. I was doing the same thing I did in prior parts of my
document.

Have a nice day to all of you.