Unwanted Fonts keep loading

[John Dough]

Using MS Office X (not 2004).

Why do all of those fonts I deactivated in FontBook keep loading in my MS
Office apps. You know what I mean -- all of those useless Asian and
Cyrillic fonts as well as other assorted and redundant garbage. I'm sure
someone has use for them, but why should my drop down list be cluttered with
this stuff if I neither want nor need it?

This stuff doesn't show up in other apps (like Adobe apps)

 

[John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]]

Hi John:

Basically, they are part of the required set Microsoft Office needs, to
ensure that it has the entire Unicode character set covered. MS Office is a
Unicode application. Most Mac fonts don't contain enough characters to
cover the Unicode character set (at least... They didn't when Office 2004
was shipped).

On the PC, Microsoft ships Arial Unicode MS, a giant 22 MB font that
contains every known character in the Unicode 3.2 specification. On the
Mac, it takes several fonts to do that.

On launch, MS Office checks that the required fonts are present. If you
have disabled one or more of them, it re-installs all of them.

So that's why

Cheers

Using MS Office X (not 2004).

Why do all of those fonts I deactivated in FontBook keep loading in my MS
Office apps. You know what I mean -- all of those useless Asian and
Cyrillic fonts as well as other assorted and redundant garbage. I'm sure
someone has use for them, but why should my drop down list be cluttered with
this stuff if I neither want nor need it?

This stuff doesn't show up in other apps (like Adobe apps)

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[Beth Rosengard]

But not all of them are necessary. Here's the list of those that are:

Arial
Batang
Gulim
Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro W3
Lucida Grande
MS PMincho
MS Gothic
MS Mincho
MS Pgothic
MT Extra
PmingLiu
Simsun
Symbol
Times New Roman
Verdana
Wingding

You can deactivate the rest if you like and you then shouldn't have the
re-load issue.

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Beth Rosengard
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[John Dough]

Beth,

I'm using Word v.X not 2004, if that makes any difference.

Your list seems kind of odd, in that I've never seen some of these fonts,
either in any font list or in any of the possible folders where fonts
reside.

Have never seen:

Batang
Gulim
Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro W3
MS PMincho
MS Gothic
MS Mincho
MS Pgothic
MT Extra
PmingLiu
Simsun

I do have all sorts of fonts that have a suffix of CE or CY (which I assume
is Cyrillic), and a number of fonts which have the names only in Asian
characters (which I cannot read).

With regard to the issue of Word needing to access the full Unicode
character set, I have a number of Adobe .otf fonts, which I am all but
certain contain the full Unicode set (in Illustrator one can use them for
just about every imaginable glyph) -- Adobe Caslon Pro, Minion Pro, Myriad
Pro.

So, I'm not really following the logic of this.... In any case, for those
of us who are so insular that we cannot imagine writing in any other
language than English (and I can also write in Spanish using various
keyboard combinations for accents and upside down ?s and !s), why do we have
to have all this junk on our systems?? It's distracting and ugly. I think
it's bad programming not to give the users a way of disabling it.

The doughboy