update query: still having problems

S

scubadiver

I want to update a field called "rate" in the "department" subform table from
a field called "rate" in a temporary table called "sheet1".

I am getting parameter value boxes. Here is my SQL.

UPDATE Department
SET [sheet1]![rate] = [forms]![employee]![department subform].Form![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form![employeeID]);
 
M

Michel Walsh

Hi,

Try the full syntax:

FROMS!formName!SubFormControlName.FORM.CONTROLS!controlNameInTheSubForm


(all cap word are keywords).


Note that you use the name of the control of the subform control, NOT the
name of the form embedded into it (they MAY differ, and obviously, if so, it
is important to use the right one).



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP
 
S

scubadiver

This is what I now have:

UPDATE Department AS Subform
SET sheet1!rate = [forms]![employee]![department subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]);

I am wondering whether the "SET" line should be the other way round.

I get parameter boxes for

sheet1!rate
sheet1!employeeID
forms!employee!department

Michel Walsh said:
Hi,

Try the full syntax:

FROMS!formName!SubFormControlName.FORM.CONTROLS!controlNameInTheSubForm


(all cap word are keywords).


Note that you use the name of the control of the subform control, NOT the
name of the form embedded into it (they MAY differ, and obviously, if so, it
is important to use the right one).



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

scubadiver said:
I want to update a field called "rate" in the "department" subform table
from
a field called "rate" in a temporary table called "sheet1".

I am getting parameter value boxes. Here is my SQL.

UPDATE Department
SET [sheet1]![rate] = [forms]![employee]![department subform].Form![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form![employeeID]);
 
M

Michel Walsh

Ha, you use CurrentDb? try from the User Interface or with DoCmd. CurrentDb
does NOT solve FORMS!... syntax for you, while the UI and DoCmd does.

Also, for table and fields, preferable to use the dot syntax; the bang
syntax is generally reserved to VBA objects.

Also, your table, to be update, is Department? so try:


DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]); "


(in one line, or with the appropriate line continuation)





Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP


scubadiver said:
This is what I now have:

UPDATE Department AS Subform
SET sheet1!rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]);

I am wondering whether the "SET" line should be the other way round.

I get parameter boxes for

sheet1!rate
sheet1!employeeID
forms!employee!department

Michel Walsh said:
Hi,

Try the full syntax:

FROMS!formName!SubFormControlName.FORM.CONTROLS!controlNameInTheSubForm


(all cap word are keywords).


Note that you use the name of the control of the subform control, NOT the
name of the form embedded into it (they MAY differ, and obviously, if so,
it
is important to use the right one).



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

scubadiver said:
I want to update a field called "rate" in the "department" subform table
from
a field called "rate" in a temporary table called "sheet1".

I am getting parameter value boxes. Here is my SQL.

UPDATE Department
SET [sheet1]![rate] = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form![employeeID]);
 
S

scubadiver

You are correct that the table to be updated is "department" but I need to
take the information I need from "sheet1". I thought the 2nd line would
something along the lines of:

SET [forms]![employee]![department subform].Form.controls![rate] =
[sheet1].[rate]

Your code throws up a syntax error: Invalid SQL statement.

Michel Walsh said:
Ha, you use CurrentDb? try from the User Interface or with DoCmd. CurrentDb
does NOT solve FORMS!... syntax for you, while the UI and DoCmd does.

Also, for table and fields, preferable to use the dot syntax; the bang
syntax is generally reserved to VBA objects.

Also, your table, to be update, is Department? so try:


DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]); "


(in one line, or with the appropriate line continuation)





Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP


scubadiver said:
This is what I now have:

UPDATE Department AS Subform
SET sheet1!rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]);

I am wondering whether the "SET" line should be the other way round.

I get parameter boxes for

sheet1!rate
sheet1!employeeID
forms!employee!department

Michel Walsh said:
Hi,

Try the full syntax:

FROMS!formName!SubFormControlName.FORM.CONTROLS!controlNameInTheSubForm


(all cap word are keywords).


Note that you use the name of the control of the subform control, NOT the
name of the form embedded into it (they MAY differ, and obviously, if so,
it
is important to use the right one).



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

I want to update a field called "rate" in the "department" subform table
from
a field called "rate" in a temporary table called "sheet1".

I am getting parameter value boxes. Here is my SQL.

UPDATE Department
SET [sheet1]![rate] = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form![employeeID]);
 
M

Michel Walsh

Hi,




Remove the last parenthesis in the code I supplied, should be

DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]; "




With an SQL statement, you update the table, not the VBA Form, so, the left
side of the SET *MUST* be a table and a field:

SET tableName.FieldName = ...


***** If the right part of the = is a field from another table, then you use
an inner join,

but it is probably preferable to start with a SELECT clause:

SELECT Department.*, OtherTable.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN OtherTable ON Department.SomeFieldA =
OtherTable.SomeFieldB


where "OtherTable" is "the other table" you mention, but not supplied ita
name (unless it is sheet1 ? ), and "SomeFieldA" and "SomeFieldB" are the
appropriate fields making the "link" between the two tables, the two fields
defining the "lookup". I don't know what they are, given the information you
supplied.



Once you get that right (in design view, if you prefer), add the WHERE
clause to limit the records in table Department that are selected.

Once the right records are displayed, with the select, limit the selected
fields to the one to be updated:


SELECT Department.Rate
FROM ... WHERE...


and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid, under the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]


And then you have your query.



*****If the right side of the = is a control in a form, not a value from
another table, then use the appropriate syntax as previously suggested
(without the ending mismatch closing parenthesis)




Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

scubadiver said:
You are correct that the table to be updated is "department" but I need to
take the information I need from "sheet1". I thought the 2nd line would
something along the lines of:

SET [forms]![employee]![department subform].Form.controls![rate] =
[sheet1].[rate]

Your code throws up a syntax error: Invalid SQL statement.

Michel Walsh said:
Ha, you use CurrentDb? try from the User Interface or with DoCmd.
CurrentDb
does NOT solve FORMS!... syntax for you, while the UI and DoCmd does.

Also, for table and fields, preferable to use the dot syntax; the bang
syntax is generally reserved to VBA objects.

Also, your table, to be update, is Department? so try:


DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]); "


(in one line, or with the appropriate line continuation)





Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP


scubadiver said:
This is what I now have:

UPDATE Department AS Subform
SET sheet1!rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]);

I am wondering whether the "SET" line should be the other way round.

I get parameter boxes for

sheet1!rate
sheet1!employeeID
forms!employee!department

:

Hi,

Try the full syntax:

FROMS!formName!SubFormControlName.FORM.CONTROLS!controlNameInTheSubForm


(all cap word are keywords).


Note that you use the name of the control of the subform control, NOT
the
name of the form embedded into it (they MAY differ, and obviously, if
so,
it
is important to use the right one).



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

I want to update a field called "rate" in the "department" subform
table
from
a field called "rate" in a temporary table called "sheet1".

I am getting parameter value boxes. Here is my SQL.

UPDATE Department
SET [sheet1]![rate] = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form![employeeID]);
 
S

scubadiver

Hello,

thanks for the help. I am a novice SQL user so

I am wanting to update the table (and I appreciate "sheet1" probably isn't
the most informative name but I will keep it for the time being!).

In the select statement, do the asterisks remain?

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.rate = sheet1.rate;

A word of warning is that not all the employee numbers in "sheet1" are in
"department". Should they be? After I have run the above code, the two fields
from "sheet1" are attached to "department" in the query but (a) not all of
the employee numbers from "sheet1" are in the query and (b) they don't match
up correctly.




Michel Walsh said:
Hi,




Remove the last parenthesis in the code I supplied, should be

DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]; "




With an SQL statement, you update the table, not the VBA Form, so, the left
side of the SET *MUST* be a table and a field:

SET tableName.FieldName = ...


***** If the right part of the = is a field from another table, then you use
an inner join,

but it is probably preferable to start with a SELECT clause:

SELECT Department.*, OtherTable.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN OtherTable ON Department.SomeFieldA =
OtherTable.SomeFieldB


where "OtherTable" is "the other table" you mention, but not supplied ita
name (unless it is sheet1 ? ), and "SomeFieldA" and "SomeFieldB" are the
appropriate fields making the "link" between the two tables, the two fields
defining the "lookup". I don't know what they are, given the information you
supplied.



Once you get that right (in design view, if you prefer), add the WHERE
clause to limit the records in table Department that are selected.

Once the right records are displayed, with the select, limit the selected
fields to the one to be updated:


SELECT Department.Rate
FROM ... WHERE...


and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid, under the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]


And then you have your query.



*****If the right side of the = is a control in a form, not a value from
another table, then use the appropriate syntax as previously suggested
(without the ending mismatch closing parenthesis)




Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

scubadiver said:
You are correct that the table to be updated is "department" but I need to
take the information I need from "sheet1". I thought the 2nd line would
something along the lines of:

SET [forms]![employee]![department subform].Form.controls![rate] =
[sheet1].[rate]

Your code throws up a syntax error: Invalid SQL statement.

Michel Walsh said:
Ha, you use CurrentDb? try from the User Interface or with DoCmd.
CurrentDb
does NOT solve FORMS!... syntax for you, while the UI and DoCmd does.

Also, for table and fields, preferable to use the dot syntax; the bang
syntax is generally reserved to VBA objects.

Also, your table, to be update, is Department? so try:


DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]); "


(in one line, or with the appropriate line continuation)





Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP


This is what I now have:

UPDATE Department AS Subform
SET sheet1!rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]);

I am wondering whether the "SET" line should be the other way round.

I get parameter boxes for

sheet1!rate
sheet1!employeeID
forms!employee!department

:

Hi,

Try the full syntax:

FROMS!formName!SubFormControlName.FORM.CONTROLS!controlNameInTheSubForm


(all cap word are keywords).


Note that you use the name of the control of the subform control, NOT
the
name of the form embedded into it (they MAY differ, and obviously, if
so,
it
is important to use the right one).



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

I want to update a field called "rate" in the "department" subform
table
from
a field called "rate" in a temporary table called "sheet1".

I am getting parameter value boxes. Here is my SQL.

UPDATE Department
SET [sheet1]![rate] = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form![employeeID]);
 
M

Michel Walsh

Hi,

You keep the * in the first try so you can get all the fields of the
table(s).

Only the records from Department that have a rate value present in sheet1,
under its rate column, will be kept;
only the records from Sheet1 that have a rate value present in Department,
under its rate column, will be kept.
That is how an INNER JOIN works when there is no duplicated values (in one
of the table): it acts like an INTERSECTION, only keeping rows that matches
the ON clause. Here, you used Department.rate=Sheet1.rate, so the
"criteria" to define the match is just that. If something else is required
to "match up *correctly*", either you change the ON clause criteria, either
you add an extra WHERE clause ( to remove even more rows ). We generally
write the criteria in the ON clause if it implies two tables, and the WHERE
clause if it implies just one table (two fields of the same table, as
table1.starting<table1.ending, or a field of a table and a constant, as
table2.qty=0), but the main point (for outer join) is that the ON clause is
evaluated first while the WHERE clause is evaluated after the join is made.


Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP



scubadiver said:
Hello,

thanks for the help. I am a novice SQL user so

I am wanting to update the table (and I appreciate "sheet1" probably isn't
the most informative name but I will keep it for the time being!).

In the select statement, do the asterisks remain?

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.rate = sheet1.rate;

A word of warning is that not all the employee numbers in "sheet1" are in
"department". Should they be? After I have run the above code, the two
fields
from "sheet1" are attached to "department" in the query but (a) not all of
the employee numbers from "sheet1" are in the query and (b) they don't
match
up correctly.




Michel Walsh said:
Hi,




Remove the last parenthesis in the code I supplied, should be

DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]; "




With an SQL statement, you update the table, not the VBA Form, so, the
left
side of the SET *MUST* be a table and a field:

SET tableName.FieldName = ...


***** If the right part of the = is a field from another table, then you
use
an inner join,

but it is probably preferable to start with a SELECT clause:

SELECT Department.*, OtherTable.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN OtherTable ON Department.SomeFieldA =
OtherTable.SomeFieldB


where "OtherTable" is "the other table" you mention, but not supplied
ita
name (unless it is sheet1 ? ), and "SomeFieldA" and "SomeFieldB" are the
appropriate fields making the "link" between the two tables, the two
fields
defining the "lookup". I don't know what they are, given the information
you
supplied.



Once you get that right (in design view, if you prefer), add the WHERE
clause to limit the records in table Department that are selected.

Once the right records are displayed, with the select, limit the selected
fields to the one to be updated:


SELECT Department.Rate
FROM ... WHERE...


and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid, under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]


And then you have your query.



*****If the right side of the = is a control in a form, not a value from
another table, then use the appropriate syntax as previously suggested
(without the ending mismatch closing parenthesis)




Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

scubadiver said:
You are correct that the table to be updated is "department" but I need
to
take the information I need from "sheet1". I thought the 2nd line would
something along the lines of:

SET [forms]![employee]![department subform].Form.controls![rate] =
[sheet1].[rate]

Your code throws up a syntax error: Invalid SQL statement.

:

Ha, you use CurrentDb? try from the User Interface or with DoCmd.
CurrentDb
does NOT solve FORMS!... syntax for you, while the UI and DoCmd does.

Also, for table and fields, preferable to use the dot syntax; the
bang
syntax is generally reserved to VBA objects.

Also, your table, to be update, is Department? so try:


DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]); "


(in one line, or with the appropriate line continuation)





Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP


This is what I now have:

UPDATE Department AS Subform
SET sheet1!rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]);

I am wondering whether the "SET" line should be the other way round.

I get parameter boxes for

sheet1!rate
sheet1!employeeID
forms!employee!department

:

Hi,

Try the full syntax:

FROMS!formName!SubFormControlName.FORM.CONTROLS!controlNameInTheSubForm


(all cap word are keywords).


Note that you use the name of the control of the subform control,
NOT
the
name of the form embedded into it (they MAY differ, and obviously,
if
so,
it
is important to use the right one).



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

message
I want to update a field called "rate" in the "department" subform
table
from
a field called "rate" in a temporary table called "sheet1".

I am getting parameter value boxes. Here is my SQL.

UPDATE Department
SET [sheet1]![rate] = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form![employeeID]);
 
S

scubadiver

okay, I have now changed it to the following and it works fine.

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID;

The "rate" from "sheet1" is now attached correctly and the query is
restricted only to those employees I want to update.

I am bit confused about the "update to" line. In your previous reply, you
state

and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid, under the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]

Shouldn't it be the other way round?

thanks

Michel Walsh said:
Hi,

You keep the * in the first try so you can get all the fields of the
table(s).

Only the records from Department that have a rate value present in sheet1,
under its rate column, will be kept;
only the records from Sheet1 that have a rate value present in Department,
under its rate column, will be kept.
That is how an INNER JOIN works when there is no duplicated values (in one
of the table): it acts like an INTERSECTION, only keeping rows that matches
the ON clause. Here, you used Department.rate=Sheet1.rate, so the
"criteria" to define the match is just that. If something else is required
to "match up *correctly*", either you change the ON clause criteria, either
you add an extra WHERE clause ( to remove even more rows ). We generally
write the criteria in the ON clause if it implies two tables, and the WHERE
clause if it implies just one table (two fields of the same table, as
table1.starting<table1.ending, or a field of a table and a constant, as
table2.qty=0), but the main point (for outer join) is that the ON clause is
evaluated first while the WHERE clause is evaluated after the join is made.


Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP



scubadiver said:
Hello,

thanks for the help. I am a novice SQL user so

I am wanting to update the table (and I appreciate "sheet1" probably isn't
the most informative name but I will keep it for the time being!).

In the select statement, do the asterisks remain?

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.rate = sheet1.rate;

A word of warning is that not all the employee numbers in "sheet1" are in
"department". Should they be? After I have run the above code, the two
fields
from "sheet1" are attached to "department" in the query but (a) not all of
the employee numbers from "sheet1" are in the query and (b) they don't
match
up correctly.




Michel Walsh said:
Hi,




Remove the last parenthesis in the code I supplied, should be

DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]; "




With an SQL statement, you update the table, not the VBA Form, so, the
left
side of the SET *MUST* be a table and a field:

SET tableName.FieldName = ...


***** If the right part of the = is a field from another table, then you
use
an inner join,

but it is probably preferable to start with a SELECT clause:

SELECT Department.*, OtherTable.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN OtherTable ON Department.SomeFieldA =
OtherTable.SomeFieldB


where "OtherTable" is "the other table" you mention, but not supplied
ita
name (unless it is sheet1 ? ), and "SomeFieldA" and "SomeFieldB" are the
appropriate fields making the "link" between the two tables, the two
fields
defining the "lookup". I don't know what they are, given the information
you
supplied.



Once you get that right (in design view, if you prefer), add the WHERE
clause to limit the records in table Department that are selected.

Once the right records are displayed, with the select, limit the selected
fields to the one to be updated:


SELECT Department.Rate
FROM ... WHERE...


and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid, under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]


And then you have your query.



*****If the right side of the = is a control in a form, not a value from
another table, then use the appropriate syntax as previously suggested
(without the ending mismatch closing parenthesis)




Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

You are correct that the table to be updated is "department" but I need
to
take the information I need from "sheet1". I thought the 2nd line would
something along the lines of:

SET [forms]![employee]![department subform].Form.controls![rate] =
[sheet1].[rate]

Your code throws up a syntax error: Invalid SQL statement.

:

Ha, you use CurrentDb? try from the User Interface or with DoCmd.
CurrentDb
does NOT solve FORMS!... syntax for you, while the UI and DoCmd does.

Also, for table and fields, preferable to use the dot syntax; the
bang
syntax is generally reserved to VBA objects.

Also, your table, to be update, is Department? so try:


DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]); "


(in one line, or with the appropriate line continuation)





Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP


This is what I now have:

UPDATE Department AS Subform
SET sheet1!rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]);

I am wondering whether the "SET" line should be the other way round.

I get parameter boxes for

sheet1!rate
sheet1!employeeID
forms!employee!department

:

Hi,

Try the full syntax:

FROMS!formName!SubFormControlName.FORM.CONTROLS!controlNameInTheSubForm


(all cap word are keywords).


Note that you use the name of the control of the subform control,
NOT
the
name of the form embedded into it (they MAY differ, and obviously,
if
so,
it
is important to use the right one).



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

message
I want to update a field called "rate" in the "department" subform
table
from
a field called "rate" in a temporary table called "sheet1".

I am getting parameter value boxes. Here is my SQL.

UPDATE Department
SET [sheet1]![rate] = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form![employeeID]);
 
M

Michel Walsh

Hi,

From the User Interface, in the toolbar, or the menu, when you edit a query,
you should find a button that allows you to change the query "type". Right
now, you have a SELECT type. Change it to an update query type (not making a
new query, BUT using the one that works right now). The grid will change.
Bring the field to be update in the first line (by drag and drop, if you
prefer, that will do fine to). That is ***probably*** the field rate from
the table Department, from what I assume.

Next, in the update to line, of the grid, type the table name and field name
that actually holds the data that will update the field in the first line of
the grid. Use the syntax with [ ] like: [sheet1].[rate]



and back in SQL view, you should now have something like:

UPDATE Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID
SET Department.Rate=sheet1.Rate



Note that if you run that query, ALL the records in Department will be
updated! If this is what you want, fine, else, add a WHERE clause to limit
the records to be updated.



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

scubadiver said:
okay, I have now changed it to the following and it works fine.

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID;

The "rate" from "sheet1" is now attached correctly and the query is
restricted only to those employees I want to update.

I am bit confused about the "update to" line. In your previous reply, you
state

and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid, under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]

Shouldn't it be the other way round?

thanks

Michel Walsh said:
Hi,

You keep the * in the first try so you can get all the fields of the
table(s).

Only the records from Department that have a rate value present in
sheet1,
under its rate column, will be kept;
only the records from Sheet1 that have a rate value present in
Department,
under its rate column, will be kept.
That is how an INNER JOIN works when there is no duplicated values (in
one
of the table): it acts like an INTERSECTION, only keeping rows that
matches
the ON clause. Here, you used Department.rate=Sheet1.rate, so the
"criteria" to define the match is just that. If something else is
required
to "match up *correctly*", either you change the ON clause criteria,
either
you add an extra WHERE clause ( to remove even more rows ). We generally
write the criteria in the ON clause if it implies two tables, and the
WHERE
clause if it implies just one table (two fields of the same table, as
table1.starting<table1.ending, or a field of a table and a constant, as
table2.qty=0), but the main point (for outer join) is that the ON clause
is
evaluated first while the WHERE clause is evaluated after the join is
made.


Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP



scubadiver said:
Hello,

thanks for the help. I am a novice SQL user so

I am wanting to update the table (and I appreciate "sheet1" probably
isn't
the most informative name but I will keep it for the time being!).

In the select statement, do the asterisks remain?

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.rate = sheet1.rate;

A word of warning is that not all the employee numbers in "sheet1" are
in
"department". Should they be? After I have run the above code, the two
fields
from "sheet1" are attached to "department" in the query but (a) not all
of
the employee numbers from "sheet1" are in the query and (b) they don't
match
up correctly.




:

Hi,




Remove the last parenthesis in the code I supplied, should be

DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]; "




With an SQL statement, you update the table, not the VBA Form, so, the
left
side of the SET *MUST* be a table and a field:

SET tableName.FieldName = ...


***** If the right part of the = is a field from another table, then
you
use
an inner join,

but it is probably preferable to start with a SELECT clause:

SELECT Department.*, OtherTable.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN OtherTable ON Department.SomeFieldA =
OtherTable.SomeFieldB


where "OtherTable" is "the other table" you mention, but not supplied
ita
name (unless it is sheet1 ? ), and "SomeFieldA" and "SomeFieldB" are
the
appropriate fields making the "link" between the two tables, the two
fields
defining the "lookup". I don't know what they are, given the
information
you
supplied.



Once you get that right (in design view, if you prefer), add the WHERE
clause to limit the records in table Department that are selected.

Once the right records are displayed, with the select, limit the
selected
fields to the one to be updated:


SELECT Department.Rate
FROM ... WHERE...


and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid,
under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]


And then you have your query.



*****If the right side of the = is a control in a form, not a value
from
another table, then use the appropriate syntax as previously suggested
(without the ending mismatch closing parenthesis)




Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

You are correct that the table to be updated is "department" but I
need
to
take the information I need from "sheet1". I thought the 2nd line
would
something along the lines of:

SET [forms]![employee]![department subform].Form.controls![rate] =
[sheet1].[rate]

Your code throws up a syntax error: Invalid SQL statement.

:

Ha, you use CurrentDb? try from the User Interface or with DoCmd.
CurrentDb
does NOT solve FORMS!... syntax for you, while the UI and DoCmd
does.

Also, for table and fields, preferable to use the dot syntax; the
bang
syntax is generally reserved to VBA objects.

Also, your table, to be update, is Department? so try:


DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]); "


(in one line, or with the appropriate line continuation)





Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP


message
This is what I now have:

UPDATE Department AS Subform
SET sheet1!rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]);

I am wondering whether the "SET" line should be the other way
round.

I get parameter boxes for

sheet1!rate
sheet1!employeeID
forms!employee!department

:

Hi,

Try the full syntax:

FROMS!formName!SubFormControlName.FORM.CONTROLS!controlNameInTheSubForm


(all cap word are keywords).


Note that you use the name of the control of the subform
control,
NOT
the
name of the form embedded into it (they MAY differ, and
obviously,
if
so,
it
is important to use the right one).



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

message
I want to update a field called "rate" in the "department"
subform
table
from
a field called "rate" in a temporary table called "sheet1".

I am getting parameter value boxes. Here is my SQL.

UPDATE Department
SET [sheet1]![rate] = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form![employeeID]);
 
S

scubadiver

Its worked and I didn't think it would be that simple.

thanks for your help.

Michel Walsh said:
Hi,

From the User Interface, in the toolbar, or the menu, when you edit a query,
you should find a button that allows you to change the query "type". Right
now, you have a SELECT type. Change it to an update query type (not making a
new query, BUT using the one that works right now). The grid will change.
Bring the field to be update in the first line (by drag and drop, if you
prefer, that will do fine to). That is ***probably*** the field rate from
the table Department, from what I assume.

Next, in the update to line, of the grid, type the table name and field name
that actually holds the data that will update the field in the first line of
the grid. Use the syntax with [ ] like: [sheet1].[rate]



and back in SQL view, you should now have something like:

UPDATE Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID
SET Department.Rate=sheet1.Rate



Note that if you run that query, ALL the records in Department will be
updated! If this is what you want, fine, else, add a WHERE clause to limit
the records to be updated.



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

scubadiver said:
okay, I have now changed it to the following and it works fine.

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID;

The "rate" from "sheet1" is now attached correctly and the query is
restricted only to those employees I want to update.

I am bit confused about the "update to" line. In your previous reply, you
state

and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid, under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]

Shouldn't it be the other way round?

thanks

Michel Walsh said:
Hi,

You keep the * in the first try so you can get all the fields of the
table(s).

Only the records from Department that have a rate value present in
sheet1,
under its rate column, will be kept;
only the records from Sheet1 that have a rate value present in
Department,
under its rate column, will be kept.
That is how an INNER JOIN works when there is no duplicated values (in
one
of the table): it acts like an INTERSECTION, only keeping rows that
matches
the ON clause. Here, you used Department.rate=Sheet1.rate, so the
"criteria" to define the match is just that. If something else is
required
to "match up *correctly*", either you change the ON clause criteria,
either
you add an extra WHERE clause ( to remove even more rows ). We generally
write the criteria in the ON clause if it implies two tables, and the
WHERE
clause if it implies just one table (two fields of the same table, as
table1.starting<table1.ending, or a field of a table and a constant, as
table2.qty=0), but the main point (for outer join) is that the ON clause
is
evaluated first while the WHERE clause is evaluated after the join is
made.


Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP



Hello,

thanks for the help. I am a novice SQL user so

I am wanting to update the table (and I appreciate "sheet1" probably
isn't
the most informative name but I will keep it for the time being!).

In the select statement, do the asterisks remain?

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.rate = sheet1.rate;

A word of warning is that not all the employee numbers in "sheet1" are
in
"department". Should they be? After I have run the above code, the two
fields
from "sheet1" are attached to "department" in the query but (a) not all
of
the employee numbers from "sheet1" are in the query and (b) they don't
match
up correctly.




:

Hi,




Remove the last parenthesis in the code I supplied, should be

DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]; "




With an SQL statement, you update the table, not the VBA Form, so, the
left
side of the SET *MUST* be a table and a field:

SET tableName.FieldName = ...


***** If the right part of the = is a field from another table, then
you
use
an inner join,

but it is probably preferable to start with a SELECT clause:

SELECT Department.*, OtherTable.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN OtherTable ON Department.SomeFieldA =
OtherTable.SomeFieldB


where "OtherTable" is "the other table" you mention, but not supplied
ita
name (unless it is sheet1 ? ), and "SomeFieldA" and "SomeFieldB" are
the
appropriate fields making the "link" between the two tables, the two
fields
defining the "lookup". I don't know what they are, given the
information
you
supplied.



Once you get that right (in design view, if you prefer), add the WHERE
clause to limit the records in table Department that are selected.

Once the right records are displayed, with the select, limit the
selected
fields to the one to be updated:


SELECT Department.Rate
FROM ... WHERE...


and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid,
under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]


And then you have your query.



*****If the right side of the = is a control in a form, not a value
from
another table, then use the appropriate syntax as previously suggested
(without the ending mismatch closing parenthesis)




Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

You are correct that the table to be updated is "department" but I
need
to
take the information I need from "sheet1". I thought the 2nd line
would
something along the lines of:

SET [forms]![employee]![department subform].Form.controls![rate] =
[sheet1].[rate]

Your code throws up a syntax error: Invalid SQL statement.

:

Ha, you use CurrentDb? try from the User Interface or with DoCmd.
CurrentDb
does NOT solve FORMS!... syntax for you, while the UI and DoCmd
does.

Also, for table and fields, preferable to use the dot syntax; the
bang
syntax is generally reserved to VBA objects.

Also, your table, to be update, is Department? so try:


DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]); "


(in one line, or with the appropriate line continuation)





Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP


message
This is what I now have:

UPDATE Department AS Subform
SET sheet1!rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]);

I am wondering whether the "SET" line should be the other way
round.

I get parameter boxes for

sheet1!rate
sheet1!employeeID
forms!employee!department

:

Hi,

Try the full syntax:

FROMS!formName!SubFormControlName.FORM.CONTROLS!controlNameInTheSubForm


(all cap word are keywords).


Note that you use the name of the control of the subform
control,
NOT
the
name of the form embedded into it (they MAY differ, and
obviously,
if
so,
it
is important to use the right one).



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP
 
S

scubadiver

I've got another query.

For a delete query is it possible to delete information from certain fields
for certain rows?

Michel Walsh said:
Hi,

From the User Interface, in the toolbar, or the menu, when you edit a query,
you should find a button that allows you to change the query "type". Right
now, you have a SELECT type. Change it to an update query type (not making a
new query, BUT using the one that works right now). The grid will change.
Bring the field to be update in the first line (by drag and drop, if you
prefer, that will do fine to). That is ***probably*** the field rate from
the table Department, from what I assume.

Next, in the update to line, of the grid, type the table name and field name
that actually holds the data that will update the field in the first line of
the grid. Use the syntax with [ ] like: [sheet1].[rate]



and back in SQL view, you should now have something like:

UPDATE Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID
SET Department.Rate=sheet1.Rate



Note that if you run that query, ALL the records in Department will be
updated! If this is what you want, fine, else, add a WHERE clause to limit
the records to be updated.



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

scubadiver said:
okay, I have now changed it to the following and it works fine.

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID;

The "rate" from "sheet1" is now attached correctly and the query is
restricted only to those employees I want to update.

I am bit confused about the "update to" line. In your previous reply, you
state

and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid, under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]

Shouldn't it be the other way round?

thanks

Michel Walsh said:
Hi,

You keep the * in the first try so you can get all the fields of the
table(s).

Only the records from Department that have a rate value present in
sheet1,
under its rate column, will be kept;
only the records from Sheet1 that have a rate value present in
Department,
under its rate column, will be kept.
That is how an INNER JOIN works when there is no duplicated values (in
one
of the table): it acts like an INTERSECTION, only keeping rows that
matches
the ON clause. Here, you used Department.rate=Sheet1.rate, so the
"criteria" to define the match is just that. If something else is
required
to "match up *correctly*", either you change the ON clause criteria,
either
you add an extra WHERE clause ( to remove even more rows ). We generally
write the criteria in the ON clause if it implies two tables, and the
WHERE
clause if it implies just one table (two fields of the same table, as
table1.starting<table1.ending, or a field of a table and a constant, as
table2.qty=0), but the main point (for outer join) is that the ON clause
is
evaluated first while the WHERE clause is evaluated after the join is
made.


Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP



Hello,

thanks for the help. I am a novice SQL user so

I am wanting to update the table (and I appreciate "sheet1" probably
isn't
the most informative name but I will keep it for the time being!).

In the select statement, do the asterisks remain?

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.rate = sheet1.rate;

A word of warning is that not all the employee numbers in "sheet1" are
in
"department". Should they be? After I have run the above code, the two
fields
from "sheet1" are attached to "department" in the query but (a) not all
of
the employee numbers from "sheet1" are in the query and (b) they don't
match
up correctly.




:

Hi,




Remove the last parenthesis in the code I supplied, should be

DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]; "




With an SQL statement, you update the table, not the VBA Form, so, the
left
side of the SET *MUST* be a table and a field:

SET tableName.FieldName = ...


***** If the right part of the = is a field from another table, then
you
use
an inner join,

but it is probably preferable to start with a SELECT clause:

SELECT Department.*, OtherTable.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN OtherTable ON Department.SomeFieldA =
OtherTable.SomeFieldB


where "OtherTable" is "the other table" you mention, but not supplied
ita
name (unless it is sheet1 ? ), and "SomeFieldA" and "SomeFieldB" are
the
appropriate fields making the "link" between the two tables, the two
fields
defining the "lookup". I don't know what they are, given the
information
you
supplied.



Once you get that right (in design view, if you prefer), add the WHERE
clause to limit the records in table Department that are selected.

Once the right records are displayed, with the select, limit the
selected
fields to the one to be updated:


SELECT Department.Rate
FROM ... WHERE...


and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid,
under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]


And then you have your query.



*****If the right side of the = is a control in a form, not a value
from
another table, then use the appropriate syntax as previously suggested
(without the ending mismatch closing parenthesis)




Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

You are correct that the table to be updated is "department" but I
need
to
take the information I need from "sheet1". I thought the 2nd line
would
something along the lines of:

SET [forms]![employee]![department subform].Form.controls![rate] =
[sheet1].[rate]

Your code throws up a syntax error: Invalid SQL statement.

:

Ha, you use CurrentDb? try from the User Interface or with DoCmd.
CurrentDb
does NOT solve FORMS!... syntax for you, while the UI and DoCmd
does.

Also, for table and fields, preferable to use the dot syntax; the
bang
syntax is generally reserved to VBA objects.

Also, your table, to be update, is Department? so try:


DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]); "


(in one line, or with the appropriate line continuation)





Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP


message
This is what I now have:

UPDATE Department AS Subform
SET sheet1!rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]);

I am wondering whether the "SET" line should be the other way
round.

I get parameter boxes for

sheet1!rate
sheet1!employeeID
forms!employee!department

:

Hi,

Try the full syntax:

FROMS!formName!SubFormControlName.FORM.CONTROLS!controlNameInTheSubForm


(all cap word are keywords).


Note that you use the name of the control of the subform
control,
NOT
the
name of the form embedded into it (they MAY differ, and
obviously,
if
so,
it
is important to use the right one).



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP
 
S

scubadiver

It is records only

Michel Walsh said:
Hi,

From the User Interface, in the toolbar, or the menu, when you edit a query,
you should find a button that allows you to change the query "type". Right
now, you have a SELECT type. Change it to an update query type (not making a
new query, BUT using the one that works right now). The grid will change.
Bring the field to be update in the first line (by drag and drop, if you
prefer, that will do fine to). That is ***probably*** the field rate from
the table Department, from what I assume.

Next, in the update to line, of the grid, type the table name and field name
that actually holds the data that will update the field in the first line of
the grid. Use the syntax with [ ] like: [sheet1].[rate]



and back in SQL view, you should now have something like:

UPDATE Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID
SET Department.Rate=sheet1.Rate



Note that if you run that query, ALL the records in Department will be
updated! If this is what you want, fine, else, add a WHERE clause to limit
the records to be updated.



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

scubadiver said:
okay, I have now changed it to the following and it works fine.

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID;

The "rate" from "sheet1" is now attached correctly and the query is
restricted only to those employees I want to update.

I am bit confused about the "update to" line. In your previous reply, you
state

and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid, under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]

Shouldn't it be the other way round?

thanks

Michel Walsh said:
Hi,

You keep the * in the first try so you can get all the fields of the
table(s).

Only the records from Department that have a rate value present in
sheet1,
under its rate column, will be kept;
only the records from Sheet1 that have a rate value present in
Department,
under its rate column, will be kept.
That is how an INNER JOIN works when there is no duplicated values (in
one
of the table): it acts like an INTERSECTION, only keeping rows that
matches
the ON clause. Here, you used Department.rate=Sheet1.rate, so the
"criteria" to define the match is just that. If something else is
required
to "match up *correctly*", either you change the ON clause criteria,
either
you add an extra WHERE clause ( to remove even more rows ). We generally
write the criteria in the ON clause if it implies two tables, and the
WHERE
clause if it implies just one table (two fields of the same table, as
table1.starting<table1.ending, or a field of a table and a constant, as
table2.qty=0), but the main point (for outer join) is that the ON clause
is
evaluated first while the WHERE clause is evaluated after the join is
made.


Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP



Hello,

thanks for the help. I am a novice SQL user so

I am wanting to update the table (and I appreciate "sheet1" probably
isn't
the most informative name but I will keep it for the time being!).

In the select statement, do the asterisks remain?

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.rate = sheet1.rate;

A word of warning is that not all the employee numbers in "sheet1" are
in
"department". Should they be? After I have run the above code, the two
fields
from "sheet1" are attached to "department" in the query but (a) not all
of
the employee numbers from "sheet1" are in the query and (b) they don't
match
up correctly.




:

Hi,




Remove the last parenthesis in the code I supplied, should be

DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]; "




With an SQL statement, you update the table, not the VBA Form, so, the
left
side of the SET *MUST* be a table and a field:

SET tableName.FieldName = ...


***** If the right part of the = is a field from another table, then
you
use
an inner join,

but it is probably preferable to start with a SELECT clause:

SELECT Department.*, OtherTable.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN OtherTable ON Department.SomeFieldA =
OtherTable.SomeFieldB


where "OtherTable" is "the other table" you mention, but not supplied
ita
name (unless it is sheet1 ? ), and "SomeFieldA" and "SomeFieldB" are
the
appropriate fields making the "link" between the two tables, the two
fields
defining the "lookup". I don't know what they are, given the
information
you
supplied.



Once you get that right (in design view, if you prefer), add the WHERE
clause to limit the records in table Department that are selected.

Once the right records are displayed, with the select, limit the
selected
fields to the one to be updated:


SELECT Department.Rate
FROM ... WHERE...


and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid,
under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]


And then you have your query.



*****If the right side of the = is a control in a form, not a value
from
another table, then use the appropriate syntax as previously suggested
(without the ending mismatch closing parenthesis)




Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

You are correct that the table to be updated is "department" but I
need
to
take the information I need from "sheet1". I thought the 2nd line
would
something along the lines of:

SET [forms]![employee]![department subform].Form.controls![rate] =
[sheet1].[rate]

Your code throws up a syntax error: Invalid SQL statement.

:

Ha, you use CurrentDb? try from the User Interface or with DoCmd.
CurrentDb
does NOT solve FORMS!... syntax for you, while the UI and DoCmd
does.

Also, for table and fields, preferable to use the dot syntax; the
bang
syntax is generally reserved to VBA objects.

Also, your table, to be update, is Department? so try:


DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]); "


(in one line, or with the appropriate line continuation)





Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP


message
This is what I now have:

UPDATE Department AS Subform
SET sheet1!rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]);

I am wondering whether the "SET" line should be the other way
round.

I get parameter boxes for

sheet1!rate
sheet1!employeeID
forms!employee!department

:

Hi,

Try the full syntax:

FROMS!formName!SubFormControlName.FORM.CONTROLS!controlNameInTheSubForm


(all cap word are keywords).


Note that you use the name of the control of the subform
control,
NOT
the
name of the form embedded into it (they MAY differ, and
obviously,
if
so,
it
is important to use the right one).



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP
 
S

scubadiver

I have another update query problem. This time it should be relatively
straightforward.

(a) I want to automatically update the "phol" field in the "department"
table with 1's.

I also want to include two criteria,

(b) one is where the "workstatus" field in the "employee" field is equal to
"perm"
(c) the date field will be an open criteria specified in a date field in a
form.

For (a) I am assuming "sheet1.Rate" would simply be replaced with "1"?
Not too sure about (b) and (c)

UPDATE Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID
SET Department.Rate=sheet1.Rate

What I want to do is press a button that will run the query and update the
fields.
Michel Walsh said:
Hi,

From the User Interface, in the toolbar, or the menu, when you edit a query,
you should find a button that allows you to change the query "type". Right
now, you have a SELECT type. Change it to an update query type (not making a
new query, BUT using the one that works right now). The grid will change.
Bring the field to be update in the first line (by drag and drop, if you
prefer, that will do fine to). That is ***probably*** the field rate from
the table Department, from what I assume.

Next, in the update to line, of the grid, type the table name and field name
that actually holds the data that will update the field in the first line of
the grid. Use the syntax with [ ] like: [sheet1].[rate]



and back in SQL view, you should now have something like:

UPDATE Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID
SET Department.Rate=sheet1.Rate



Note that if you run that query, ALL the records in Department will be
updated! If this is what you want, fine, else, add a WHERE clause to limit
the records to be updated.



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

scubadiver said:
okay, I have now changed it to the following and it works fine.

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID;

The "rate" from "sheet1" is now attached correctly and the query is
restricted only to those employees I want to update.

I am bit confused about the "update to" line. In your previous reply, you
state

and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid, under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]

Shouldn't it be the other way round?

thanks

Michel Walsh said:
Hi,

You keep the * in the first try so you can get all the fields of the
table(s).

Only the records from Department that have a rate value present in
sheet1,
under its rate column, will be kept;
only the records from Sheet1 that have a rate value present in
Department,
under its rate column, will be kept.
That is how an INNER JOIN works when there is no duplicated values (in
one
of the table): it acts like an INTERSECTION, only keeping rows that
matches
the ON clause. Here, you used Department.rate=Sheet1.rate, so the
"criteria" to define the match is just that. If something else is
required
to "match up *correctly*", either you change the ON clause criteria,
either
you add an extra WHERE clause ( to remove even more rows ). We generally
write the criteria in the ON clause if it implies two tables, and the
WHERE
clause if it implies just one table (two fields of the same table, as
table1.starting<table1.ending, or a field of a table and a constant, as
table2.qty=0), but the main point (for outer join) is that the ON clause
is
evaluated first while the WHERE clause is evaluated after the join is
made.


Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP



Hello,

thanks for the help. I am a novice SQL user so

I am wanting to update the table (and I appreciate "sheet1" probably
isn't
the most informative name but I will keep it for the time being!).

In the select statement, do the asterisks remain?

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.rate = sheet1.rate;

A word of warning is that not all the employee numbers in "sheet1" are
in
"department". Should they be? After I have run the above code, the two
fields
from "sheet1" are attached to "department" in the query but (a) not all
of
the employee numbers from "sheet1" are in the query and (b) they don't
match
up correctly.




:

Hi,




Remove the last parenthesis in the code I supplied, should be

DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]; "




With an SQL statement, you update the table, not the VBA Form, so, the
left
side of the SET *MUST* be a table and a field:

SET tableName.FieldName = ...


***** If the right part of the = is a field from another table, then
you
use
an inner join,

but it is probably preferable to start with a SELECT clause:

SELECT Department.*, OtherTable.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN OtherTable ON Department.SomeFieldA =
OtherTable.SomeFieldB


where "OtherTable" is "the other table" you mention, but not supplied
ita
name (unless it is sheet1 ? ), and "SomeFieldA" and "SomeFieldB" are
the
appropriate fields making the "link" between the two tables, the two
fields
defining the "lookup". I don't know what they are, given the
information
you
supplied.



Once you get that right (in design view, if you prefer), add the WHERE
clause to limit the records in table Department that are selected.

Once the right records are displayed, with the select, limit the
selected
fields to the one to be updated:


SELECT Department.Rate
FROM ... WHERE...


and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid,
under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]


And then you have your query.



*****If the right side of the = is a control in a form, not a value
from
another table, then use the appropriate syntax as previously suggested
(without the ending mismatch closing parenthesis)




Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

You are correct that the table to be updated is "department" but I
need
to
take the information I need from "sheet1". I thought the 2nd line
would
something along the lines of:

SET [forms]![employee]![department subform].Form.controls![rate] =
[sheet1].[rate]

Your code throws up a syntax error: Invalid SQL statement.

:

Ha, you use CurrentDb? try from the User Interface or with DoCmd.
CurrentDb
does NOT solve FORMS!... syntax for you, while the UI and DoCmd
does.

Also, for table and fields, preferable to use the dot syntax; the
bang
syntax is generally reserved to VBA objects.

Also, your table, to be update, is Department? so try:


DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]); "


(in one line, or with the appropriate line continuation)





Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP


message
This is what I now have:

UPDATE Department AS Subform
SET sheet1!rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]);

I am wondering whether the "SET" line should be the other way
round.

I get parameter boxes for

sheet1!rate
sheet1!employeeID
forms!employee!department

:

Hi,

Try the full syntax:

FROMS!formName!SubFormControlName.FORM.CONTROLS!controlNameInTheSubForm


(all cap word are keywords).


Note that you use the name of the control of the subform
control,
NOT
the
name of the form embedded into it (they MAY differ, and
obviously,
if
so,
it
is important to use the right one).



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP
 
M

Michel Walsh

Hi,

If you delete, you delete an entire row. You can UPDATE some field, putting
NULL in them, though.


Vanderghast, Access MVP

scubadiver said:
Its worked and I didn't think it would be that simple.

thanks for your help.

Michel Walsh said:
Hi,

From the User Interface, in the toolbar, or the menu, when you edit a
query,
you should find a button that allows you to change the query "type".
Right
now, you have a SELECT type. Change it to an update query type (not
making a
new query, BUT using the one that works right now). The grid will change.
Bring the field to be update in the first line (by drag and drop, if you
prefer, that will do fine to). That is ***probably*** the field rate
from
the table Department, from what I assume.

Next, in the update to line, of the grid, type the table name and field
name
that actually holds the data that will update the field in the first line
of
the grid. Use the syntax with [ ] like: [sheet1].[rate]



and back in SQL view, you should now have something like:

UPDATE Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID
SET Department.Rate=sheet1.Rate



Note that if you run that query, ALL the records in Department will be
updated! If this is what you want, fine, else, add a WHERE clause to
limit
the records to be updated.



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

scubadiver said:
okay, I have now changed it to the following and it works fine.

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID;

The "rate" from "sheet1" is now attached correctly and the query is
restricted only to those employees I want to update.

I am bit confused about the "update to" line. In your previous reply,
you
state

and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid, under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]

Shouldn't it be the other way round?

thanks

:

Hi,

You keep the * in the first try so you can get all the fields of the
table(s).

Only the records from Department that have a rate value present in
sheet1,
under its rate column, will be kept;
only the records from Sheet1 that have a rate value present in
Department,
under its rate column, will be kept.
That is how an INNER JOIN works when there is no duplicated values (in
one
of the table): it acts like an INTERSECTION, only keeping rows that
matches
the ON clause. Here, you used Department.rate=Sheet1.rate, so the
"criteria" to define the match is just that. If something else is
required
to "match up *correctly*", either you change the ON clause criteria,
either
you add an extra WHERE clause ( to remove even more rows ). We
generally
write the criteria in the ON clause if it implies two tables, and the
WHERE
clause if it implies just one table (two fields of the same table, as
table1.starting<table1.ending, or a field of a table and a constant,
as
table2.qty=0), but the main point (for outer join) is that the ON
clause
is
evaluated first while the WHERE clause is evaluated after the join is
made.


Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP



Hello,

thanks for the help. I am a novice SQL user so

I am wanting to update the table (and I appreciate "sheet1" probably
isn't
the most informative name but I will keep it for the time being!).

In the select statement, do the asterisks remain?

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.rate = sheet1.rate;

A word of warning is that not all the employee numbers in "sheet1"
are
in
"department". Should they be? After I have run the above code, the
two
fields
from "sheet1" are attached to "department" in the query but (a) not
all
of
the employee numbers from "sheet1" are in the query and (b) they
don't
match
up correctly.




:

Hi,




Remove the last parenthesis in the code I supplied, should be

DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]; "




With an SQL statement, you update the table, not the VBA Form, so,
the
left
side of the SET *MUST* be a table and a field:

SET tableName.FieldName = ...


***** If the right part of the = is a field from another table,
then
you
use
an inner join,

but it is probably preferable to start with a SELECT clause:

SELECT Department.*, OtherTable.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN OtherTable ON Department.SomeFieldA =
OtherTable.SomeFieldB


where "OtherTable" is "the other table" you mention, but not
supplied
ita
name (unless it is sheet1 ? ), and "SomeFieldA" and "SomeFieldB"
are
the
appropriate fields making the "link" between the two tables, the
two
fields
defining the "lookup". I don't know what they are, given the
information
you
supplied.



Once you get that right (in design view, if you prefer), add the
WHERE
clause to limit the records in table Department that are selected.

Once the right records are displayed, with the select, limit the
selected
fields to the one to be updated:


SELECT Department.Rate
FROM ... WHERE...


and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid,
under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]


And then you have your query.



*****If the right side of the = is a control in a form, not a value
from
another table, then use the appropriate syntax as previously
suggested
(without the ending mismatch closing parenthesis)




Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

message
You are correct that the table to be updated is "department" but
I
need
to
take the information I need from "sheet1". I thought the 2nd line
would
something along the lines of:

SET [forms]![employee]![department subform].Form.controls![rate]
=
[sheet1].[rate]

Your code throws up a syntax error: Invalid SQL statement.

:

Ha, you use CurrentDb? try from the User Interface or with
DoCmd.
CurrentDb
does NOT solve FORMS!... syntax for you, while the UI and DoCmd
does.

Also, for table and fields, preferable to use the dot syntax;
the
bang
syntax is generally reserved to VBA objects.

Also, your table, to be update, is Department? so try:


DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]); "


(in one line, or with the appropriate line continuation)





Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP


message
This is what I now have:

UPDATE Department AS Subform
SET sheet1!rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]);

I am wondering whether the "SET" line should be the other way
round.

I get parameter boxes for

sheet1!rate
sheet1!employeeID
forms!employee!department

:

Hi,

Try the full syntax:

FROMS!formName!SubFormControlName.FORM.CONTROLS!controlNameInTheSubForm


(all cap word are keywords).


Note that you use the name of the control of the subform
control,
NOT
the
name of the form embedded into it (they MAY differ, and
obviously,
if
so,
it
is important to use the right one).



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP
 
J

John Spencer

If you are only deleting certain fields, then you aren't deleting the entire
record. That means, you need an UPDATE query where you set the field value
to Null

Generically that could look something like:
UPDATE ATable
Set AField = Null,
BField = Null
WHERE ATable.AField = "SomeValue" And A.Table.SomeOtherField = 22


scubadiver said:
I've got another query.

For a delete query is it possible to delete information from certain
fields
for certain rows?

Michel Walsh said:
Hi,

From the User Interface, in the toolbar, or the menu, when you edit a
query,
you should find a button that allows you to change the query "type".
Right
now, you have a SELECT type. Change it to an update query type (not
making a
new query, BUT using the one that works right now). The grid will change.
Bring the field to be update in the first line (by drag and drop, if you
prefer, that will do fine to). That is ***probably*** the field rate
from
the table Department, from what I assume.

Next, in the update to line, of the grid, type the table name and field
name
that actually holds the data that will update the field in the first line
of
the grid. Use the syntax with [ ] like: [sheet1].[rate]



and back in SQL view, you should now have something like:

UPDATE Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID
SET Department.Rate=sheet1.Rate



Note that if you run that query, ALL the records in Department will be
updated! If this is what you want, fine, else, add a WHERE clause to
limit
the records to be updated.



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

scubadiver said:
okay, I have now changed it to the following and it works fine.

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID;

The "rate" from "sheet1" is now attached correctly and the query is
restricted only to those employees I want to update.

I am bit confused about the "update to" line. In your previous reply,
you
state

and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid, under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]

Shouldn't it be the other way round?

thanks

:

Hi,

You keep the * in the first try so you can get all the fields of the
table(s).

Only the records from Department that have a rate value present in
sheet1,
under its rate column, will be kept;
only the records from Sheet1 that have a rate value present in
Department,
under its rate column, will be kept.
That is how an INNER JOIN works when there is no duplicated values (in
one
of the table): it acts like an INTERSECTION, only keeping rows that
matches
the ON clause. Here, you used Department.rate=Sheet1.rate, so the
"criteria" to define the match is just that. If something else is
required
to "match up *correctly*", either you change the ON clause criteria,
either
you add an extra WHERE clause ( to remove even more rows ). We
generally
write the criteria in the ON clause if it implies two tables, and the
WHERE
clause if it implies just one table (two fields of the same table, as
table1.starting<table1.ending, or a field of a table and a constant,
as
table2.qty=0), but the main point (for outer join) is that the ON
clause
is
evaluated first while the WHERE clause is evaluated after the join is
made.


Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP



Hello,

thanks for the help. I am a novice SQL user so

I am wanting to update the table (and I appreciate "sheet1" probably
isn't
the most informative name but I will keep it for the time being!).

In the select statement, do the asterisks remain?

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.rate = sheet1.rate;

A word of warning is that not all the employee numbers in "sheet1"
are
in
"department". Should they be? After I have run the above code, the
two
fields
from "sheet1" are attached to "department" in the query but (a) not
all
of
the employee numbers from "sheet1" are in the query and (b) they
don't
match
up correctly.




:

Hi,




Remove the last parenthesis in the code I supplied, should be

DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]; "




With an SQL statement, you update the table, not the VBA Form, so,
the
left
side of the SET *MUST* be a table and a field:

SET tableName.FieldName = ...


***** If the right part of the = is a field from another table,
then
you
use
an inner join,

but it is probably preferable to start with a SELECT clause:

SELECT Department.*, OtherTable.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN OtherTable ON Department.SomeFieldA =
OtherTable.SomeFieldB


where "OtherTable" is "the other table" you mention, but not
supplied
ita
name (unless it is sheet1 ? ), and "SomeFieldA" and "SomeFieldB"
are
the
appropriate fields making the "link" between the two tables, the
two
fields
defining the "lookup". I don't know what they are, given the
information
you
supplied.



Once you get that right (in design view, if you prefer), add the
WHERE
clause to limit the records in table Department that are selected.

Once the right records are displayed, with the select, limit the
selected
fields to the one to be updated:


SELECT Department.Rate
FROM ... WHERE...


and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid,
under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]


And then you have your query.



*****If the right side of the = is a control in a form, not a value
from
another table, then use the appropriate syntax as previously
suggested
(without the ending mismatch closing parenthesis)




Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

message
You are correct that the table to be updated is "department" but
I
need
to
take the information I need from "sheet1". I thought the 2nd line
would
something along the lines of:

SET [forms]![employee]![department subform].Form.controls![rate]
=
[sheet1].[rate]

Your code throws up a syntax error: Invalid SQL statement.

:

Ha, you use CurrentDb? try from the User Interface or with
DoCmd.
CurrentDb
does NOT solve FORMS!... syntax for you, while the UI and DoCmd
does.

Also, for table and fields, preferable to use the dot syntax;
the
bang
syntax is generally reserved to VBA objects.

Also, your table, to be update, is Department? so try:


DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]); "


(in one line, or with the appropriate line continuation)





Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP


message
This is what I now have:

UPDATE Department AS Subform
SET sheet1!rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]);

I am wondering whether the "SET" line should be the other way
round.

I get parameter boxes for

sheet1!rate
sheet1!employeeID
forms!employee!department

:

Hi,

Try the full syntax:

FROMS!formName!SubFormControlName.FORM.CONTROLS!controlNameInTheSubForm


(all cap word are keywords).


Note that you use the name of the control of the subform
control,
NOT
the
name of the form embedded into it (they MAY differ, and
obviously,
if
so,
it
is important to use the right one).



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP
 
M

Michel Walsh

Hi,



(a)

UPDATE Department SET Department.Rate=1


no need to use the join anymore.




(b)

bring the workstatus field in the grid and, at the criteria line, write:
= "perm"


(c)

bring the date field in the grid and, at the criteria line, write:

BETWEEN FORMS!formNameHere!ControlNameHere AND
FORMS!formNameHere!OtherControlNameHere



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

scubadiver said:
I have another update query problem. This time it should be relatively
straightforward.

(a) I want to automatically update the "phol" field in the "department"
table with 1's.

I also want to include two criteria,

(b) one is where the "workstatus" field in the "employee" field is equal
to
"perm"
(c) the date field will be an open criteria specified in a date field in a
form.

For (a) I am assuming "sheet1.Rate" would simply be replaced with "1"?
Not too sure about (b) and (c)

UPDATE Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID
SET Department.Rate=sheet1.Rate

What I want to do is press a button that will run the query and update the
fields.
Michel Walsh said:
Hi,

From the User Interface, in the toolbar, or the menu, when you edit a
query,
you should find a button that allows you to change the query "type".
Right
now, you have a SELECT type. Change it to an update query type (not
making a
new query, BUT using the one that works right now). The grid will change.
Bring the field to be update in the first line (by drag and drop, if you
prefer, that will do fine to). That is ***probably*** the field rate
from
the table Department, from what I assume.

Next, in the update to line, of the grid, type the table name and field
name
that actually holds the data that will update the field in the first line
of
the grid. Use the syntax with [ ] like: [sheet1].[rate]



and back in SQL view, you should now have something like:

UPDATE Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID
SET Department.Rate=sheet1.Rate



Note that if you run that query, ALL the records in Department will be
updated! If this is what you want, fine, else, add a WHERE clause to
limit
the records to be updated.



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

scubadiver said:
okay, I have now changed it to the following and it works fine.

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID;

The "rate" from "sheet1" is now attached correctly and the query is
restricted only to those employees I want to update.

I am bit confused about the "update to" line. In your previous reply,
you
state

and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid, under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]

Shouldn't it be the other way round?

thanks

:

Hi,

You keep the * in the first try so you can get all the fields of the
table(s).

Only the records from Department that have a rate value present in
sheet1,
under its rate column, will be kept;
only the records from Sheet1 that have a rate value present in
Department,
under its rate column, will be kept.
That is how an INNER JOIN works when there is no duplicated values (in
one
of the table): it acts like an INTERSECTION, only keeping rows that
matches
the ON clause. Here, you used Department.rate=Sheet1.rate, so the
"criteria" to define the match is just that. If something else is
required
to "match up *correctly*", either you change the ON clause criteria,
either
you add an extra WHERE clause ( to remove even more rows ). We
generally
write the criteria in the ON clause if it implies two tables, and the
WHERE
clause if it implies just one table (two fields of the same table, as
table1.starting<table1.ending, or a field of a table and a constant,
as
table2.qty=0), but the main point (for outer join) is that the ON
clause
is
evaluated first while the WHERE clause is evaluated after the join is
made.


Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP



Hello,

thanks for the help. I am a novice SQL user so

I am wanting to update the table (and I appreciate "sheet1" probably
isn't
the most informative name but I will keep it for the time being!).

In the select statement, do the asterisks remain?

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.rate = sheet1.rate;

A word of warning is that not all the employee numbers in "sheet1"
are
in
"department". Should they be? After I have run the above code, the
two
fields
from "sheet1" are attached to "department" in the query but (a) not
all
of
the employee numbers from "sheet1" are in the query and (b) they
don't
match
up correctly.




:

Hi,




Remove the last parenthesis in the code I supplied, should be

DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]; "




With an SQL statement, you update the table, not the VBA Form, so,
the
left
side of the SET *MUST* be a table and a field:

SET tableName.FieldName = ...


***** If the right part of the = is a field from another table,
then
you
use
an inner join,

but it is probably preferable to start with a SELECT clause:

SELECT Department.*, OtherTable.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN OtherTable ON Department.SomeFieldA =
OtherTable.SomeFieldB


where "OtherTable" is "the other table" you mention, but not
supplied
ita
name (unless it is sheet1 ? ), and "SomeFieldA" and "SomeFieldB"
are
the
appropriate fields making the "link" between the two tables, the
two
fields
defining the "lookup". I don't know what they are, given the
information
you
supplied.



Once you get that right (in design view, if you prefer), add the
WHERE
clause to limit the records in table Department that are selected.

Once the right records are displayed, with the select, limit the
selected
fields to the one to be updated:


SELECT Department.Rate
FROM ... WHERE...


and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid,
under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]


And then you have your query.



*****If the right side of the = is a control in a form, not a value
from
another table, then use the appropriate syntax as previously
suggested
(without the ending mismatch closing parenthesis)




Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

message
You are correct that the table to be updated is "department" but
I
need
to
take the information I need from "sheet1". I thought the 2nd line
would
something along the lines of:

SET [forms]![employee]![department subform].Form.controls![rate]
=
[sheet1].[rate]

Your code throws up a syntax error: Invalid SQL statement.

:

Ha, you use CurrentDb? try from the User Interface or with
DoCmd.
CurrentDb
does NOT solve FORMS!... syntax for you, while the UI and DoCmd
does.

Also, for table and fields, preferable to use the dot syntax;
the
bang
syntax is generally reserved to VBA objects.

Also, your table, to be update, is Department? so try:


DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]); "


(in one line, or with the appropriate line continuation)





Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP


message
This is what I now have:

UPDATE Department AS Subform
SET sheet1!rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE ([sheet1]![employeeID]=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]);

I am wondering whether the "SET" line should be the other way
round.

I get parameter boxes for

sheet1!rate
sheet1!employeeID
forms!employee!department

:

Hi,

Try the full syntax:

FROMS!formName!SubFormControlName.FORM.CONTROLS!controlNameInTheSubForm


(all cap word are keywords).


Note that you use the name of the control of the subform
control,
NOT
the
name of the form embedded into it (they MAY differ, and
obviously,
if
so,
it
is important to use the right one).



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP
 
S

scubadiver

I will have to adapt the other query. The field I want to update in
"department" is "phol" (public holiday). However, the "workstatus" field is
in "employee" and WeekID is in "department".

So I will need the inner join.

Michel Walsh said:
Hi,



(a)

UPDATE Department SET Department.Rate=1


no need to use the join anymore.




(b)

bring the workstatus field in the grid and, at the criteria line, write:
= "perm"


(c)

bring the date field in the grid and, at the criteria line, write:

BETWEEN FORMS!formNameHere!ControlNameHere AND
FORMS!formNameHere!OtherControlNameHere



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

scubadiver said:
I have another update query problem. This time it should be relatively
straightforward.

(a) I want to automatically update the "phol" field in the "department"
table with 1's.

I also want to include two criteria,

(b) one is where the "workstatus" field in the "employee" field is equal
to
"perm"
(c) the date field will be an open criteria specified in a date field in a
form.

For (a) I am assuming "sheet1.Rate" would simply be replaced with "1"?
Not too sure about (b) and (c)

UPDATE Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID
SET Department.Rate=sheet1.Rate

What I want to do is press a button that will run the query and update the
fields.
Michel Walsh said:
Hi,

From the User Interface, in the toolbar, or the menu, when you edit a
query,
you should find a button that allows you to change the query "type".
Right
now, you have a SELECT type. Change it to an update query type (not
making a
new query, BUT using the one that works right now). The grid will change.
Bring the field to be update in the first line (by drag and drop, if you
prefer, that will do fine to). That is ***probably*** the field rate
from
the table Department, from what I assume.

Next, in the update to line, of the grid, type the table name and field
name
that actually holds the data that will update the field in the first line
of
the grid. Use the syntax with [ ] like: [sheet1].[rate]



and back in SQL view, you should now have something like:

UPDATE Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID
SET Department.Rate=sheet1.Rate



Note that if you run that query, ALL the records in Department will be
updated! If this is what you want, fine, else, add a WHERE clause to
limit
the records to be updated.



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

okay, I have now changed it to the following and it works fine.

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID;

The "rate" from "sheet1" is now attached correctly and the query is
restricted only to those employees I want to update.

I am bit confused about the "update to" line. In your previous reply,
you
state

and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid, under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]

Shouldn't it be the other way round?

thanks

:

Hi,

You keep the * in the first try so you can get all the fields of the
table(s).

Only the records from Department that have a rate value present in
sheet1,
under its rate column, will be kept;
only the records from Sheet1 that have a rate value present in
Department,
under its rate column, will be kept.
That is how an INNER JOIN works when there is no duplicated values (in
one
of the table): it acts like an INTERSECTION, only keeping rows that
matches
the ON clause. Here, you used Department.rate=Sheet1.rate, so the
"criteria" to define the match is just that. If something else is
required
to "match up *correctly*", either you change the ON clause criteria,
either
you add an extra WHERE clause ( to remove even more rows ). We
generally
write the criteria in the ON clause if it implies two tables, and the
WHERE
clause if it implies just one table (two fields of the same table, as
table1.starting<table1.ending, or a field of a table and a constant,
as
table2.qty=0), but the main point (for outer join) is that the ON
clause
is
evaluated first while the WHERE clause is evaluated after the join is
made.


Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP



Hello,

thanks for the help. I am a novice SQL user so

I am wanting to update the table (and I appreciate "sheet1" probably
isn't
the most informative name but I will keep it for the time being!).

In the select statement, do the asterisks remain?

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.rate = sheet1.rate;

A word of warning is that not all the employee numbers in "sheet1"
are
in
"department". Should they be? After I have run the above code, the
two
fields
from "sheet1" are attached to "department" in the query but (a) not
all
of
the employee numbers from "sheet1" are in the query and (b) they
don't
match
up correctly.




:

Hi,




Remove the last parenthesis in the code I supplied, should be

DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]; "




With an SQL statement, you update the table, not the VBA Form, so,
the
left
side of the SET *MUST* be a table and a field:

SET tableName.FieldName = ...


***** If the right part of the = is a field from another table,
then
you
use
an inner join,

but it is probably preferable to start with a SELECT clause:

SELECT Department.*, OtherTable.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN OtherTable ON Department.SomeFieldA =
OtherTable.SomeFieldB


where "OtherTable" is "the other table" you mention, but not
supplied
ita
name (unless it is sheet1 ? ), and "SomeFieldA" and "SomeFieldB"
are
the
appropriate fields making the "link" between the two tables, the
two
fields
defining the "lookup". I don't know what they are, given the
information
you
supplied.



Once you get that right (in design view, if you prefer), add the
WHERE
clause to limit the records in table Department that are selected.

Once the right records are displayed, with the select, limit the
selected
fields to the one to be updated:


SELECT Department.Rate
FROM ... WHERE...


and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid,
under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]


And then you have your query.



*****If the right side of the = is a control in a form, not a value
from
another table, then use the appropriate syntax as previously
suggested
(without the ending mismatch closing parenthesis)




Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

message
You are correct that the table to be updated is "department" but
I
need
to
take the information I need from "sheet1". I thought the 2nd line
would
something along the lines of:
 
S

scubadiver

It is only one date I am after, not a range.

Michel Walsh said:
Hi,



(a)

UPDATE Department SET Department.Rate=1


no need to use the join anymore.




(b)

bring the workstatus field in the grid and, at the criteria line, write:
= "perm"


(c)

bring the date field in the grid and, at the criteria line, write:

BETWEEN FORMS!formNameHere!ControlNameHere AND
FORMS!formNameHere!OtherControlNameHere



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

scubadiver said:
I have another update query problem. This time it should be relatively
straightforward.

(a) I want to automatically update the "phol" field in the "department"
table with 1's.

I also want to include two criteria,

(b) one is where the "workstatus" field in the "employee" field is equal
to
"perm"
(c) the date field will be an open criteria specified in a date field in a
form.

For (a) I am assuming "sheet1.Rate" would simply be replaced with "1"?
Not too sure about (b) and (c)

UPDATE Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID
SET Department.Rate=sheet1.Rate

What I want to do is press a button that will run the query and update the
fields.
Michel Walsh said:
Hi,

From the User Interface, in the toolbar, or the menu, when you edit a
query,
you should find a button that allows you to change the query "type".
Right
now, you have a SELECT type. Change it to an update query type (not
making a
new query, BUT using the one that works right now). The grid will change.
Bring the field to be update in the first line (by drag and drop, if you
prefer, that will do fine to). That is ***probably*** the field rate
from
the table Department, from what I assume.

Next, in the update to line, of the grid, type the table name and field
name
that actually holds the data that will update the field in the first line
of
the grid. Use the syntax with [ ] like: [sheet1].[rate]



and back in SQL view, you should now have something like:

UPDATE Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID
SET Department.Rate=sheet1.Rate



Note that if you run that query, ALL the records in Department will be
updated! If this is what you want, fine, else, add a WHERE clause to
limit
the records to be updated.



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

okay, I have now changed it to the following and it works fine.

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID;

The "rate" from "sheet1" is now attached correctly and the query is
restricted only to those employees I want to update.

I am bit confused about the "update to" line. In your previous reply,
you
state

and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid, under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]

Shouldn't it be the other way round?

thanks

:

Hi,

You keep the * in the first try so you can get all the fields of the
table(s).

Only the records from Department that have a rate value present in
sheet1,
under its rate column, will be kept;
only the records from Sheet1 that have a rate value present in
Department,
under its rate column, will be kept.
That is how an INNER JOIN works when there is no duplicated values (in
one
of the table): it acts like an INTERSECTION, only keeping rows that
matches
the ON clause. Here, you used Department.rate=Sheet1.rate, so the
"criteria" to define the match is just that. If something else is
required
to "match up *correctly*", either you change the ON clause criteria,
either
you add an extra WHERE clause ( to remove even more rows ). We
generally
write the criteria in the ON clause if it implies two tables, and the
WHERE
clause if it implies just one table (two fields of the same table, as
table1.starting<table1.ending, or a field of a table and a constant,
as
table2.qty=0), but the main point (for outer join) is that the ON
clause
is
evaluated first while the WHERE clause is evaluated after the join is
made.


Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP



Hello,

thanks for the help. I am a novice SQL user so

I am wanting to update the table (and I appreciate "sheet1" probably
isn't
the most informative name but I will keep it for the time being!).

In the select statement, do the asterisks remain?

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.rate = sheet1.rate;

A word of warning is that not all the employee numbers in "sheet1"
are
in
"department". Should they be? After I have run the above code, the
two
fields
from "sheet1" are attached to "department" in the query but (a) not
all
of
the employee numbers from "sheet1" are in the query and (b) they
don't
match
up correctly.




:

Hi,




Remove the last parenthesis in the code I supplied, should be

DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]; "




With an SQL statement, you update the table, not the VBA Form, so,
the
left
side of the SET *MUST* be a table and a field:

SET tableName.FieldName = ...


***** If the right part of the = is a field from another table,
then
you
use
an inner join,

but it is probably preferable to start with a SELECT clause:

SELECT Department.*, OtherTable.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN OtherTable ON Department.SomeFieldA =
OtherTable.SomeFieldB


where "OtherTable" is "the other table" you mention, but not
supplied
ita
name (unless it is sheet1 ? ), and "SomeFieldA" and "SomeFieldB"
are
the
appropriate fields making the "link" between the two tables, the
two
fields
defining the "lookup". I don't know what they are, given the
information
you
supplied.



Once you get that right (in design view, if you prefer), add the
WHERE
clause to limit the records in table Department that are selected.

Once the right records are displayed, with the select, limit the
selected
fields to the one to be updated:


SELECT Department.Rate
FROM ... WHERE...


and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid,
under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]


And then you have your query.



*****If the right side of the = is a control in a form, not a value
from
another table, then use the appropriate syntax as previously
suggested
(without the ending mismatch closing parenthesis)




Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

message
You are correct that the table to be updated is "department" but
I
need
to
take the information I need from "sheet1". I thought the 2nd line
would
something along the lines of:
 
M

Michel Walsh

Hi,


If you only have a single date, not a range, use = instead of BETWEEN (as
long as there is no time stored with the date). I assume you know how :)



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP


scubadiver said:
It is only one date I am after, not a range.

Michel Walsh said:
Hi,



(a)

UPDATE Department SET Department.Rate=1


no need to use the join anymore.




(b)

bring the workstatus field in the grid and, at the criteria line, write:
= "perm"


(c)

bring the date field in the grid and, at the criteria line, write:

BETWEEN FORMS!formNameHere!ControlNameHere AND
FORMS!formNameHere!OtherControlNameHere



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

scubadiver said:
I have another update query problem. This time it should be relatively
straightforward.

(a) I want to automatically update the "phol" field in the "department"
table with 1's.

I also want to include two criteria,

(b) one is where the "workstatus" field in the "employee" field is
equal
to
"perm"
(c) the date field will be an open criteria specified in a date field
in a
form.

For (a) I am assuming "sheet1.Rate" would simply be replaced with "1"?
Not too sure about (b) and (c)

UPDATE Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID
SET Department.Rate=sheet1.Rate

What I want to do is press a button that will run the query and update
the
fields.
:

Hi,

From the User Interface, in the toolbar, or the menu, when you edit a
query,
you should find a button that allows you to change the query "type".
Right
now, you have a SELECT type. Change it to an update query type (not
making a
new query, BUT using the one that works right now). The grid will
change.
Bring the field to be update in the first line (by drag and drop, if
you
prefer, that will do fine to). That is ***probably*** the field rate
from
the table Department, from what I assume.

Next, in the update to line, of the grid, type the table name and
field
name
that actually holds the data that will update the field in the first
line
of
the grid. Use the syntax with [ ] like: [sheet1].[rate]



and back in SQL view, you should now have something like:

UPDATE Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID
SET Department.Rate=sheet1.Rate



Note that if you run that query, ALL the records in Department will be
updated! If this is what you want, fine, else, add a WHERE clause to
limit
the records to be updated.



Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

okay, I have now changed it to the following and it works fine.

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.employeeID =
sheet1.employeeID;

The "rate" from "sheet1" is now attached correctly and the query is
restricted only to those employees I want to update.

I am bit confused about the "update to" line. In your previous
reply,
you
state

and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the grid,
under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]

Shouldn't it be the other way round?

thanks

:

Hi,

You keep the * in the first try so you can get all the fields of
the
table(s).

Only the records from Department that have a rate value present in
sheet1,
under its rate column, will be kept;
only the records from Sheet1 that have a rate value present in
Department,
under its rate column, will be kept.
That is how an INNER JOIN works when there is no duplicated values
(in
one
of the table): it acts like an INTERSECTION, only keeping rows that
matches
the ON clause. Here, you used Department.rate=Sheet1.rate, so the
"criteria" to define the match is just that. If something else is
required
to "match up *correctly*", either you change the ON clause
criteria,
either
you add an extra WHERE clause ( to remove even more rows ). We
generally
write the criteria in the ON clause if it implies two tables, and
the
WHERE
clause if it implies just one table (two fields of the same table,
as
table1.starting<table1.ending, or a field of a table and a
constant,
as
table2.qty=0), but the main point (for outer join) is that the ON
clause
is
evaluated first while the WHERE clause is evaluated after the join
is
made.


Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP



message
Hello,

thanks for the help. I am a novice SQL user so

I am wanting to update the table (and I appreciate "sheet1"
probably
isn't
the most informative name but I will keep it for the time
being!).

In the select statement, do the asterisks remain?

SELECT Department.*, sheet1.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN Sheet1 ON Department.rate =
sheet1.rate;

A word of warning is that not all the employee numbers in
"sheet1"
are
in
"department". Should they be? After I have run the above code,
the
two
fields
from "sheet1" are attached to "department" in the query but (a)
not
all
of
the employee numbers from "sheet1" are in the query and (b) they
don't
match
up correctly.




:

Hi,




Remove the last parenthesis in the code I supplied, should be

DoCmd.RunSQL " UPDATE Department
SET Department.rate = [forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![rate]
WHERE Department.employeeID=[forms]![employee]![department
subform].Form.controls![employeeID]; "




With an SQL statement, you update the table, not the VBA Form,
so,
the
left
side of the SET *MUST* be a table and a field:

SET tableName.FieldName = ...


***** If the right part of the = is a field from another table,
then
you
use
an inner join,

but it is probably preferable to start with a SELECT clause:

SELECT Department.*, OtherTable.*
FROM Department INNER JOIN OtherTable ON Department.SomeFieldA =
OtherTable.SomeFieldB


where "OtherTable" is "the other table" you mention, but not
supplied
ita
name (unless it is sheet1 ? ), and "SomeFieldA" and "SomeFieldB"
are
the
appropriate fields making the "link" between the two tables, the
two
fields
defining the "lookup". I don't know what they are, given the
information
you
supplied.



Once you get that right (in design view, if you prefer), add the
WHERE
clause to limit the records in table Department that are
selected.

Once the right records are displayed, with the select, limit the
selected
fields to the one to be updated:


SELECT Department.Rate
FROM ... WHERE...


and now, change the SELECT query to an update query. In the
grid,
under
the
field Department.Rate, at the line Update To, add

[OtherTableName].[FieldNameSupplyingTheValue]


And then you have your query.



*****If the right side of the = is a control in a form, not a
value
from
another table, then use the appropriate syntax as previously
suggested
(without the ending mismatch closing parenthesis)




Hoping it may help,
Vanderghast, Access MVP

message
You are correct that the table to be updated is "department"
but
I
need
to
take the information I need from "sheet1". I thought the 2nd
line
would
something along the lines of:
 

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