Uploading to the web

[Toucan]

I have downloaded Publisher 2007 trial. I built a website and then hit
"Publish to the web". After filing out the file name etc and save, nothing
happens. It should bring up a connect box for user name and password. It
doesn't. What is wrong?

 

[Spike]

Did you save it to the hard drive? If so you must FTP to your web serer.
Need more info to answer your question.

Spike

 

[Toucan]

Did you save it to the hard drive? If so you must FTP to your web serer.
Need more info to answer your question.

Spike

I am using Vista and Publisher 2007.
I did save it to my hard drive. I looked on Publisher 2007 info and it says
to click on Publish to the web, then in File name box put my website address
then saved. The instructions says that the directory that is associated with
my URL will appear in the Publish to the Web dialog box. It says to double
click the folder.Then in the file name put index and then hit save. I have
done this but my website still doesn't go to the internet.
The info says to publish a website by using FTP:
On file click publish to the web. In the save in box click FTP locations.
There is no box "FTP Locations".
I am using Network Solutions and they said that I should just click "Publish
to the Web" and put in my website address, then it should upload to the web.
- but it doesn't. Toucan

 

[Spike]

Toucan

I find the easiest way to FTP is to use FileZilla a free FTP program found
at:
http://filezilla-project.org/

When you transfer the files created with publisher to your server you will
be able to see your site by going to your web address. To test your
creation you can go to the folder where you saved the files and double click
on the index.htm file (or what ever you named it if you did not use the
default) If you use index.htm the site will come up when you got to
www.mydomain.com, if you named it something else you will have to go to
www.mydomain.com/xxx.htm (xxx being what ever you named the file)

Spike

 

[Toucan]

Toucan

I find the easiest way to FTP is to use FileZilla a free FTP program found
at:
http://filezilla-project.org/

When you transfer the files created with publisher to your server you will
be able to see your site by going to your web address. To test your
creation you can go to the folder where you saved the files and double click
on the index.htm file (or what ever you named it if you did not use the
default) If you use index.htm the site will come up when you got to
www.mydomain.com, if you named it something else you will have to go to
www.mydomain.com/xxx.htm (xxx being what ever you named the file)

Spike


I down loaded Filezilla as you suggested, Spike. When I uploaded my updated website files, all the transfers failed. Do I need to download the files on the remote first? If so, where do these files go, to a separate file? as I don't want to corrupt my updated web files.

 

[Spike]

What is your domain name?
Who is your ISP?

Spike

 

[Toucan]

What is your domain name?
Who is your ISP?

Spike



My domain name is www.goldenwingsexoticbirds.com

I use Network solutions. As you will see on my website, the first page
should have 2 pictures in the top corners on it, but they don't appear.
Origionally when I posted to the web, the pictures were there. I had called
Network solutions to help me publish for the first time, and since they
couldn't get Publisher to publish, they had me to use their ftp file
publisher. It worked (after several attempts) but then when I went to update
my website and add other pages etc. it wouldn't publish the 2 pictures and it
uploaded my origional web pages.
Now, since I have downloaded Filezilla, and try to publish to the web, all
the files fail.
Here is what I done:. I went to MS Publisher 2007 and Published to the web.
In the file name I put Golden wings website I saved it to my documents.
Then in Filezilla I find Golden Wings Website.pub_files As well as index_files
I uploaded both of these files, but all 143 files failed to publish.
The reason posted was "Could not start transfer"
Do I need to download what is on the website first before I upload?
Also, once I get the website working properly, I will need to update the
"Available Babies" page each evening. Do I need to upload the complete
website each time, or can I just upload the "updated" page?
Thanks for all your help.
Toucan

 

[Spike]

Toucan

YOU SAID: "Here is what I done:. I went to MS Publisher 2007 and Published
to the web.
In the file name I put Golden wings website I saved it to my documents"

From that statement It appears that you are not publishing an index.htm file
and its components, although you said that you have an index.htm file.

When you publish to the web the default is index.htm
You may have a folder on your computer called anything you want
In the folder you should publish the web site and it's supporting files
using the default "INDEX.HTM"

Then go to that folder and double click on the index.htm file and test your
web site
If all is well then FTP the files to the server.

You do NOT need to remove any files on the server to update. Files with
same names will be overwritten.
If you modify a page you will need to republish the entire site using FTP
each time.

As far as "The reason posted was "Could not start transfer"" I do not know,
maybe someone else on here has an answer for that.
Can you see the existing files on the server using filezilla?

For sites that are multiple pages and updated often, I recommend stand alone
publisher files for each page, that way only that page needs to be
republished to the web. It takes a little more effort with links but in the
long run easier to maintain. Take a look at www.glasshappyonline.com that
site is done with publisher and each page is made with a separate pub file.

Spike

 

[DavidF]

Might I add, that Spike typed index.htm in caps for emphasis only. You save
the file in lower case.

Also after you have published your files to your local computer and tested
as Spike suggested, you upload the 'index.htm' file AND the 'index_files'
folder containing all your other .htm files and images.

DavidF

 

[Toucan]

Toucan

YOU SAID: "Here is what I done:. I went to MS Publisher 2007 and Published
to the web.
In the file name I put Golden wings website I saved it to my documents"

From that statement It appears that you are not publishing an index.htm file
and its components, although you said that you have an index.htm file.

When you publish to the web the default is index.htm
You may have a folder on your computer called anything you want
In the folder you should publish the web site and it's supporting files
using the default "INDEX.HTM"

Then go to that folder and double click on the index.htm file and test your
web site
If all is well then FTP the files to the server.

You do NOT need to remove any files on the server to update. Files with
same names will be overwritten.
If you modify a page you will need to republish the entire site using FTP
each time.

As far as "The reason posted was "Could not start transfer"" I do not know,
maybe someone else on here has an answer for that.
Can you see the existing files on the server using filezilla?

For sites that are multiple pages and updated often, I recommend stand alone
publisher files for each page, that way only that page needs to be
republished to the web. It takes a little more effort with links but in the
long run easier to maintain. Take a look at www.glasshappyonline.com that
site is done with publisher and each page is made with a separate pub file.

Spike



I Published to the Web and then went to Filezilla and found the index file. I then uploaded the 143 files which failed to publish. Reason: 'could not start transfer'

Any ideas anyone? I have tried several times to "publish to the web" and
then save as index file (default) and then tried to upload, but same messages.
Toucan

 

[DavidF]

Since you insist of bottom posting and you make it impossible to follow this
thread, I am snipping everything for this response:

In summary, when you Publish to the Web, direct your web files to somewhere
on your local computer where you can find them. Publisher will produce an
'index.htm' file (your home page) and an 'index_files' folder that contains
all your other pages and the supporting graphics. You will upload BOTH the
'index.htm' file and the 'index_files' folder INTACT, to your host.

Your host should provide you with a username, password and tell you where
the host directory is, or the root directory...ie where you should upload
your files to. They will normally have all this posted online in their
Support section or a FAQ section. They may have even emailed you that
information after you signed up for hosting. Read the directions again.

If you are having problems using FileZilla to upload then it is most likely
because you don't have things set up correctly, or you aren't using the
program correctly. So read the directions on how to properly use the program
under HELP in FileZilla or, there is a quick guide on how to use the program
and all the details you should need:
http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/documentation/

And though it will vary a bit with each host, here are some instructions
with screenshots for one host that might help you visualize the process:
Reference: Aplus.net: How do I upload with Filezilla:
http://www.apluskb.com/scripts/How_do_I_upload_with_answer3668.html

DavidF

 

[Toucan]

DavidF and Spike:
First, thank you for all your help. I finally found my problem with the
'failed to transfer' issue. I had to delete all the index_files from the
remote site, then I uploaded my recent files. Now everything is updated
except my home page does not include the 2 pictures at the top of the page.
What do I need to do to correct this? My website is
www.goldenwingsexoticbirds.com
Also, DavidF, this was the first time I have been to this site and I didn't
realize that I was to post at the top.Sorry about that. It wasn't intentional.
Toucan

 

[John G.]

There are some News groups where Top Posting is the way.
Casual observation says they are mainly Microsoft Groups.
In some other groups there are abusive bottom posting pedants.
Best to observe where you are and try and follow the fashion of that group.

If you know there are 143 files to upload then you are doing something
wrong.
To upload a straightforward Publisher Website there are only 2 two things to
upload.
The index.htm file and the index_files folder.
And as Spike said, If you upload these to the correct place then they WILL
overwrite the old ones when you agree (I suppose fileZilla asks, I use
WS_FTP).

John G.

 

[DavidF]

You are welcome, and sorry if I was irritated about the bottom posting. It
just made it impossible to follow the thread when you were bottom posting
and everyone else top posting. People argue all the time about what is most
appropriate, but as John suggested, it is best to just do what others are
doing that are responding to your posts.

As to the two pictures not yet showing, you haven't cleaned up all the files
yet. I looked at your site in FireFox and got a big image of parrot behind
your main text box. I would suggest that you delete both the index.htm file
and the index_files folder and upload new, and see if that doesn't sort
things out.

DavidF

 

[Toucan]

I deleated the files on the remote site of Filezilla. I then uploaded my
complete website and I get an "access forbidden". It's obvious that it is the
home page language issue, because when I View in Publisher, it looks and the
links work fine.What do I need to do to correct this problem?
Toucan

 

[DavidF]

I am sorry, but I don't know what your are doing incorrectly. Try again.
Publish to the Web and direct your web files to your local computer where
you can find them. You should have an index.htm file (your home page) and an
index_files folder. Then upload the index.htm file and the whole index_files
folder to the root directory of your host. Review the instructions from your
host as to where the root directory is, or perhaps they will give you
directions to upload to a particular folder on your site. That is it in a
nutshell. You managed to do this at least once, so figure out what you are
doing different now.

I now find myself wondering if in deleting the old index.htm file and the
old index_files folder on the host you inadvertently deleted some host
files. Most web hosts will include other files and folders that are
necessary for your statistics, and other things. Did you delete any files or
folders other than the index.htm file and the index_files folder?

Perhaps you should contact Support at your host again and ask them to look
at your account and see if you did indeed delete something that you should
not have. Tell them you are using FileZilla to upload your web files, and
specifically tell them that you need to upload the index.htm file and the
index_files folder to the root directory, and ask them where exactly that
is.

Sorry I don't have anything better to suggest.

DavidF

 

[Toucan]

DavidF and/or Spike:
I am not able to get my 'home' page to show up on the web, thus the
rest of the website isn't accessable. My URL is
www.goldenwingsexoticbirds.com
If you go to www.goldenwingsexoticbirds.com/Page382.htm you will see the
"about us" page and you can go through the site from there except the 'home'
page.
To give you an update as to what I have done;
I have uploaded my index_files and my index.htm files through Filezilla.
The 'home' page still isn't there. I went to the index.htm and opened it and
there isn't anything in the file.
I then built a new website (one page only) and uploaded it. The same
issue again. Nothing in the index.htm files.
I had my ISP Tech to go through this with me and his explanation, after an
hour and several attempts, was that the problem is with Publisher 2007
Thinking that the problem might be because I am using Vista, I tried
using my desktop with Windows XP Pro. Still no luck. I tried using IE7 rather
then Firefox, but the same outcome.

I need your expert advise.
Toucan

 

[DavidF]

Toucan,

I am curious as to exactly what the problem is, with Publisher as per the
ISP tech? Did they give you any details? Did they say that the index.htm
file and the index_files folder were in the right place on your host server?
It is hard to help you when you don't tell us what they said was wrong.

Right now you do have an index.htm file on your web host server:
http://www.goldenwingsexoticbirds.com/index.htm
However, it is a blank page and is all of 4.38 KB in size...it needs to be
replaced. The other pages seem to be there and functioning, but I would also
replace them. Clean out all the old and upload new.

Since you do seem to be able to upload files to your server now with
FileZila, I would propose that you open your Publisher file, and again
Publish to the Web and direct your files to your local computer where you
can find them. Open the index.htm file and make sure it works on your local
computer, and test the other pages. If all pages look good on your local
computer then go on to the next step.

You suggest that you are able to upload files with FileZilla now, so the
next step is to logon to your host with FZ and find the current copies of
the index.htm file and the index_files folder? Can you see them in
FileZilla? If yes, proceed to the next step.

You are still logged on with FZ, and found both the index.htm file and the
index_files folder there. Now remember where they are located on the host
directory, and now delete them.

Now something new, upload *just* the new index.htm file from your computer
to your host exactly where the old index.htm file was located. After that is
complete, then upload the new index_files folder. Perhaps your difficulties
lie with trying to do both at the same time. When you have successfully
uploaded both, you should be able to see the new index.htm file and the new
index_files folder in the same place on the host directory as the old ones
were, correct?

Now test your site by viewing it with your browser.

Is it working now? If not at what step above did you have problems?

I find myself wondering if the ISP host server is set such that it will not
allow old files and folders to be automatically overwritten, in which case
you may need to delete both the index.htm file and the index_files folder
each time you update and want to upload new files. And by suggesting that
you upload the index.htm file and the index_files folder in two steps might
eliminate any problem you may be having trying to upload them at the same
time.

DavidF

 

[DavidF]

An addendum. When you find your index.htm file and your index_files folder
with FileZilla they should be at the same directory level on your
host...side by side. If for some reason you find the index.htm file within
the index_files folder then, that might also be the problem.

DavidF

 

[Toucan]

When I upload my index.htm and index_files to the web, my home page isn't
there. All other pages are. When I opened the index.htm files, it is empty.
What would be causing this and what can I do to correct it?
I tried building a one page website and uploaded it and get the same results
- nothing in the index.htm files.
My URL is www.goldenwingsexoticbirds.com
I have deleted all files from the remote site and then reloaded with no
change. If you go to www.goldenwingsexoticbirds.com/Page 382 you can see the
site and can navigate from there except the home page.
I have updated items on my website and then uploaded them and everything is
fine - except no home page. I appreciate all help I can get!
Toucan