Username and password self registration

[James S]

I posted this same request in the general questions category but have not
received any helpful responses. Perhaps this is where the "beautiful people"
live.

I am trying to create a sub-web requiring a username and password for
access to the sub-web. A sub-web folder has been created and saved in the
root web. The registration form is located in the root web.

1. The hyperlink to the sub-web goes to the desired User/Reg page
2. Completion and submission of the data in the form's textboxes results in
the opening of a Registration Confirmation page/window ... the registration
info is also correctly sent to a text DB located in the private folder in the
root web.
3. Clicking the sub-web link displayed in the in the Registration
Confirmation window is where the problem begins ... a Forbidden, you do not
have permission to access this document window appears

Anynomous Access is turned on for the root web ... turning this setting off
forces me to login to the home page of the main/index page of the web

I have carefully followed the instructions for this procedure as detailed on
pages 820-824 in Jim Buyens book "Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out"
published by Microsoft Press.

The problem can be viewed by visiting www.craftsmithgolf.com. In the lower
left hand area of the home page is a small box which functions as a
semi-hidden hyperlink. Click in the box area to view the problem I'm having.

We're close, but no cigar. Please help while I still have some hair left!

Thanks!

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

FP self registration (available only on non Windows servers) does not use (and can not use) a "DB" (a text file or anything else) to
store user registrations
(they are stored by the FP SE as part of the SE subweb permissions)
See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/207288/en-us

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|I posted this same request in the general questions category but have not
| received any helpful responses. Perhaps this is where the "beautiful people"
| live.
|
| I am trying to create a sub-web requiring a username and password for
| access to the sub-web. A sub-web folder has been created and saved in the
| root web. The registration form is located in the root web.
|
| 1. The hyperlink to the sub-web goes to the desired User/Reg page
| 2. Completion and submission of the data in the form's textboxes results in
| the opening of a Registration Confirmation page/window ... the registration
| info is also correctly sent to a text DB located in the private folder in the
| root web.
| 3. Clicking the sub-web link displayed in the in the Registration
| Confirmation window is where the problem begins ... a Forbidden, you do not
| have permission to access this document window appears
|
| Anynomous Access is turned on for the root web ... turning this setting off
| forces me to login to the home page of the main/index page of the web
|
| I have carefully followed the instructions for this procedure as detailed on
| pages 820-824 in Jim Buyens book "Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out"
| published by Microsoft Press.
|
| The problem can be viewed by visiting www.craftsmithgolf.com. In the lower
| left hand area of the home page is a small box which functions as a
| semi-hidden hyperlink. Click in the box area to view the problem I'm having.
|
| We're close, but no cigar. Please help while I still have some hair left!
|
| Thanks!
|

 

[James S]

My problem appears to be a simple matter of overlooking something or not
understanding a technical point. Please excuse my mis-use of the term "DB".
What I meant to communicate was, the data entered by the user is
saved/located in what appears to be a tab delimited text file in the private
root web folder (I moved the file to that folder to keep it out of sight).
The point is, the information submitted by the user was captured, indicating
that part of the self-registration function was working.

I have carefully read and attempted to follow, to the letter, KB207288 and
Q207288 as well as other numerous resources before seeking help. The gist of
my problem is that everything seems to be working until I get an error page
rather than the desired page. My web hosting service is an Apache web server
that does supports self-registration.

Since first posting my request for help, I have worked through the problem
again and again, trying a number of different solutions. The result, at this
point, is the site does not function the same way as I described in my
original posting. From my reading and effort, it appears self-registration
is a fairly standard task which I am goofing up.

I notice you are an active "helper" in this forum. Thanks for your effort,
but I still have a problem. The tone of your post was a little high-handed,
cryptic and maybe even "geeky". I am a college professor (teaching computer
applications and business) so I understand the difficulty and frustration of
communicating to the ignorant. At this stage of my life, I am not accustomed
to being chastised over such trivial stuff. I went to a great deal of effort
to carefully compose my post. Perhaps a little more time and empathy might
be in order if you want your help to be really helpful.

I hope this reply has not discouraged you from continuing to help others,
and I am not opposed to receving another effort.

FP self registration (available only on non Windows servers) does not use (and can not use) a "DB" (a text file or anything else) to
store user registrations
(they are stored by the FP SE as part of the SE subweb permissions)
See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/207288/en-us

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________


|I posted this same request in the general questions category but have not
| received any helpful responses. Perhaps this is where the "beautiful people"
| live.
|
| I am trying to create a sub-web requiring a username and password for
| access to the sub-web. A sub-web folder has been created and saved in the
| root web. The registration form is located in the root web.
|
| 1. The hyperlink to the sub-web goes to the desired User/Reg page
| 2. Completion and submission of the data in the form's textboxes results in
| the opening of a Registration Confirmation page/window ... the registration
| info is also correctly sent to a text DB located in the private folder in the
| root web.
| 3. Clicking the sub-web link displayed in the in the Registration
| Confirmation window is where the problem begins ... a Forbidden, you do not
| have permission to access this document window appears
|
| Anynomous Access is turned on for the root web ... turning this setting off
| forces me to login to the home page of the main/index page of the web
|
| I have carefully followed the instructions for this procedure as detailed on
| pages 820-824 in Jim Buyens book "Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out"
| published by Microsoft Press.
|
| The problem can be viewed by visiting www.craftsmithgolf.com. In the lower
| left hand area of the home page is a small box which functions as a
| semi-hidden hyperlink. Click in the box area to view the problem I'm having.
|
| We're close, but no cigar. Please help while I still have some hair left!
|
| Thanks!
|

 

[Tom Willett]

"At this stage of my life, I am not accustomed
to being chastised over such trivial stuff"

Nowhere in Stefan's reply did I see you being chastised.
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Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
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FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
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| My problem appears to be a simple matter of overlooking something or not
| understanding a technical point. Please excuse my mis-use of the term
"DB".
| What I meant to communicate was, the data entered by the user is
| saved/located in what appears to be a tab delimited text file in the
private
| root web folder (I moved the file to that folder to keep it out of sight).
| The point is, the information submitted by the user was captured,
indicating
| that part of the self-registration function was working.
|
| I have carefully read and attempted to follow, to the letter, KB207288 and
| Q207288 as well as other numerous resources before seeking help. The gist
of
| my problem is that everything seems to be working until I get an error
page
| rather than the desired page. My web hosting service is an Apache web
server
| that does supports self-registration.
|
| Since first posting my request for help, I have worked through the problem
| again and again, trying a number of different solutions. The result, at
this
| point, is the site does not function the same way as I described in my
| original posting. From my reading and effort, it appears
self-registration
| is a fairly standard task which I am goofing up.
|
| I notice you are an active "helper" in this forum. Thanks for your
effort,
| but I still have a problem. The tone of your post was a little
high-handed,
| cryptic and maybe even "geeky". I am a college professor (teaching
computer
| applications and business) so I understand the difficulty and frustration
of
| communicating to the ignorant. At this stage of my life, I am not
accustomed
| to being chastised over such trivial stuff. I went to a great deal of
effort
| to carefully compose my post. Perhaps a little more time and empathy
might
| be in order if you want your help to be really helpful.
|
| I hope this reply has not discouraged you from continuing to help others,
| and I am not opposed to receving another effort.
|
| "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
|
| > FP self registration (available only on non Windows servers) does not
use (and can not use) a "DB" (a text file or anything else) to
| > store user registrations
| > (they are stored by the FP SE as part of the SE subweb permissions)
| > See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/207288/en-us
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > |I posted this same request in the general questions category but have
not
| > | received any helpful responses. Perhaps this is where the "beautiful
people"
| > | live.
| > |
| > | I am trying to create a sub-web requiring a username and password for
| > | access to the sub-web. A sub-web folder has been created and saved in
the
| > | root web. The registration form is located in the root web.
| > |
| > | 1. The hyperlink to the sub-web goes to the desired User/Reg page
| > | 2. Completion and submission of the data in the form's textboxes
results in
| > | the opening of a Registration Confirmation page/window ... the
registration
| > | info is also correctly sent to a text DB located in the private folder
in the
| > | root web.
| > | 3. Clicking the sub-web link displayed in the in the Registration
| > | Confirmation window is where the problem begins ... a Forbidden, you
do not
| > | have permission to access this document window appears
| > |
| > | Anynomous Access is turned on for the root web ... turning this
setting off
| > | forces me to login to the home page of the main/index page of the web
| > |
| > | I have carefully followed the instructions for this procedure as
detailed on
| > | pages 820-824 in Jim Buyens book "Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003
Inside Out"
| > | published by Microsoft Press.
| > |
| > | The problem can be viewed by visiting www.craftsmithgolf.com. In the
lower
| > | left hand area of the home page is a small box which functions as a
| > | semi-hidden hyperlink. Click in the box area to view the problem I'm
having.
| > |
| > | We're close, but no cigar. Please help while I still have some hair
left!
| > |
| > | Thanks!
| > |
| >
| >
| >

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

What happens when you leave the file that stores the login info, where FP created it?

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Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
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My problem appears to be a simple matter of overlooking something or not
understanding a technical point. Please excuse my mis-use of the term "DB".
What I meant to communicate was, the data entered by the user is
saved/located in what appears to be a tab delimited text file in the private
root web folder (I moved the file to that folder to keep it out of sight).
The point is, the information submitted by the user was captured, indicating
that part of the self-registration function was working.

I have carefully read and attempted to follow, to the letter, KB207288 and
Q207288 as well as other numerous resources before seeking help. The gist of
my problem is that everything seems to be working until I get an error page
rather than the desired page. My web hosting service is an Apache web server
that does supports self-registration.

Since first posting my request for help, I have worked through the problem
again and again, trying a number of different solutions. The result, at this
point, is the site does not function the same way as I described in my
original posting. From my reading and effort, it appears self-registration
is a fairly standard task which I am goofing up.

I notice you are an active "helper" in this forum. Thanks for your effort,
but I still have a problem. The tone of your post was a little high-handed,
cryptic and maybe even "geeky". I am a college professor (teaching computer
applications and business) so I understand the difficulty and frustration of
communicating to the ignorant. At this stage of my life, I am not accustomed
to being chastised over such trivial stuff. I went to a great deal of effort
to carefully compose my post. Perhaps a little more time and empathy might
be in order if you want your help to be really helpful.

I hope this reply has not discouraged you from continuing to help others,
and I am not opposed to receving another effort.

FP self registration (available only on non Windows servers) does not use (and can not use) a
"DB" (a text file or anything else) to
store user registrations
(they are stored by the FP SE as part of the SE subweb permissions)
See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/207288/en-us

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________


|I posted this same request in the general questions category but have not
| received any helpful responses. Perhaps this is where the "beautiful people"
| live.
|
| I am trying to create a sub-web requiring a username and password for
| access to the sub-web. A sub-web folder has been created and saved in the
| root web. The registration form is located in the root web.
|
| 1. The hyperlink to the sub-web goes to the desired User/Reg page
| 2. Completion and submission of the data in the form's textboxes results in
| the opening of a Registration Confirmation page/window ... the registration
| info is also correctly sent to a text DB located in the private folder in the
| root web.
| 3. Clicking the sub-web link displayed in the in the Registration
| Confirmation window is where the problem begins ... a Forbidden, you do not
| have permission to access this document window appears
|
| Anynomous Access is turned on for the root web ... turning this setting off
| forces me to login to the home page of the main/index page of the web
|
| I have carefully followed the instructions for this procedure as detailed on
| pages 820-824 in Jim Buyens book "Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out"
| published by Microsoft Press.
|
| The problem can be viewed by visiting www.craftsmithgolf.com. In the lower
| left hand area of the home page is a small box which functions as a
| semi-hidden hyperlink. Click in the box area to view the problem I'm having.
|
| We're close, but no cigar. Please help while I still have some hair left!
|
| Thanks!
|

 

[Clark]

Yer off in the weeds here perfessor. Stefan's answer was brief, to the
point, and totally absent of malice.

The only chastisement I see posted is you seemingly referring to
yourself as ignorant which maybe was just a mistaken generalization
caused by your apparent view of some of your students as being
ignorant and frustrating to communicate to which carried over into an
apparent presumption that folks seeking help in this forum are
ignorant and frustrating to communicate to which is, it turns out,
mostly not case.

But once in a while we get one --

 

[Tom Willett]

Good comments, Clark.

 

[nostickgolf]

Thanks to all for all the effort but my problem still exists. After several
more days effort reading every resource I can find, the problem still exists
in spite your mutual agreement about my attitude.

As I understand teaching, as a form of helping, it is to present complex
information in an understandable form. I have spent some effort to reading
other postings about other problems. There seems to be a common thread.
Many people get cryptic, and unhelpful and sometimes smart alec ... help. I
used the term ignorant in the proper sense which is ... lack of knowledge.
It was not a statement about character. I believe character is revealed in
many other much more significant ways ... such as a humble spirit.

This has been about my third attempt to use this forum. Each attempt ended
with the same disappointing result. Therefore I will retire from further use
secure in the knowledge that my attitude and spirit has only helped thousands
and thousands of others.

JFS

 

[Trevor L.]

Thanks to all for all the effort but my problem still exists. After
several more days effort reading every resource I can find, the
problem still exists in spite your mutual agreement about my attitude.

As I understand teaching, as a form of helping, it is to present
complex information in an understandable form. I have spent some
effort to reading other postings about other problems. There seems
to be a common thread. Many people get cryptic, and unhelpful and
sometimes smart alec ... help. I used the term ignorant in the
proper sense which is ... lack of knowledge. It was not a statement
about character. I believe character is revealed in many other much
more significant ways ... such as a humble spirit.

This has been about my third attempt to use this forum. Each attempt
ended with the same disappointing result. Therefore I will retire
from further use secure in the knowledge that my attitude and spirit
has only helped thousands and thousands of others.

JFS

I have not read any of this thread, but I agree that posters and repliers can exhibit all of these attitudes - "cryptic, and
unhelpful and
sometimes smart alec".

One problem of course is knowing how much information to give. Too liitle can be regarded as cryptic, too much as condescending. And
perhaps the "smart alec" attitude comes when the person with whom the correspondence is occurring seems not to understand "simple"
statements and the "expert" poster gets frustrated.

I understand completely the meaning of the word "ignorant". I studied Latin to the level which is now called (in Australia) HSC
(Higher School Certificate) or Year 12. From memory (nearly 40 years ago) the latin roots are "ig"= "not" and "cognoscere"= "to
know".

I once confessed ignorance of a topic on this newsgroup and I think the word was interpreted with the meaning in common usage (rude
and uneducated).

So I can't speak for those who replied (I haven't read any of them, or your answers, either), but just let me say I can understand.

 

[nostickgolf]

Thank you for your comment. I was beginning to think I was an unappreciative
low life. This thread kind of reminds me of the computer guy character on
Saturday Night Live. I have been on both sides of the ignorance issue.

As a user, there are times when everyone needs a little help, regardless of
how much you know or don't know. Contrary to popular saying, there IS such
a thing as a dumb question. Sometimes a dumb question is something you have
not made any effort to understand prior to asking for help. The standard
comment "Oh, I knew that", is a good indicator someone has asked a dumb
question.

I don't believe my question was a dumb or that my confessed ignorance or
error was deserving of "sensitivity" expressed by my help squad. My first
post was carefully crafted to hopefully, include the relevant detail needed
to understand the problem. Written communications is difficult under the
best of circumstances and practically impossible if respondents have a
critical nature or do not take the time needed to understand and think
through the problem. It makes me wonder why a person would offer such a
response.

I can smell the coffee! I will hire professional talent to resolve this
issue. My time and talent is being wasted in the picayune details.

Thanks again for your comment. Perhaps this issue will help seekers know
their responsibility in asking the question and responders be more sensitive
and careful.

nostickgolf

Thanks to all for all the effort but my problem still exists. After
several more days effort reading every resource I can find, the
problem still exists in spite your mutual agreement about my attitude.

As I understand teaching, as a form of helping, it is to present
complex information in an understandable form. I have spent some
effort to reading other postings about other problems. There seems
to be a common thread. Many people get cryptic, and unhelpful and
sometimes smart alec ... help. I used the term ignorant in the
proper sense which is ... lack of knowledge. It was not a statement
about character. I believe character is revealed in many other much
more significant ways ... such as a humble spirit.

This has been about my third attempt to use this forum. Each attempt
ended with the same disappointing result. Therefore I will retire
from further use secure in the knowledge that my attitude and spirit
has only helped thousands and thousands of others.

JFS

I have not read any of this thread, but I agree that posters and repliers can exhibit all of these attitudes - "cryptic, and
unhelpful and
sometimes smart alec".

One problem of course is knowing how much information to give. Too liitle can be regarded as cryptic, too much as condescending. And
perhaps the "smart alec" attitude comes when the person with whom the correspondence is occurring seems not to understand "simple"
statements and the "expert" poster gets frustrated.

I understand completely the meaning of the word "ignorant". I studied Latin to the level which is now called (in Australia) HSC
(Higher School Certificate) or Year 12. From memory (nearly 40 years ago) the latin roots are "ig"= "not" and "cognoscere"= "to
know".

I once confessed ignorance of a topic on this newsgroup and I think the word was interpreted with the meaning in common usage (rude
and uneducated).

So I can't speak for those who replied (I haven't read any of them, or your answers, either), but just let me say I can understand.

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Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/