using static ip address to publish a site

[Dennis]

Hi, I am in a bit of a pickle. I want to transfer one live site to another
(300-400 meg) and I don't want to publish the whole site from my PC due to
bandwidth limitations. I can open two published sites in FP03 (live on the
web and resolved) and transfer between but the actual site I need to publish
to is a brand new one so the DNS isn't resolved yet. It has a fixed IP and
FP extensions are installed but when I go to set the remote site to that ip
address I get the fp popup to enter the user name and password but it wont
let me in. The user id and pass are correct and the site is live on the
static ip, whats going on??? FTP and fp just doesn't work at all on the
fixed ip but my ftp separate ftp app works fine. My hosting account I want
to transfer from will shut down soon so I need to transfer ASAP. Can someone
help please?

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

You might have to publish to local if your DNS doesn't resolve before the old site expires




| Hi, I am in a bit of a pickle. I want to transfer one live site to another
| (300-400 meg) and I don't want to publish the whole site from my PC due to
| bandwidth limitations. I can open two published sites in FP03 (live on the
| web and resolved) and transfer between but the actual site I need to publish
| to is a brand new one so the DNS isn't resolved yet. It has a fixed IP and
| FP extensions are installed but when I go to set the remote site to that ip
| address I get the fp popup to enter the user name and password but it wont
| let me in. The user id and pass are correct and the site is live on the
| static ip, whats going on??? FTP and fp just doesn't work at all on the
| fixed ip but my ftp separate ftp app works fine. My hosting account I want
| to transfer from will shut down soon so I need to transfer ASAP. Can someone
| help please?
|
|

 

[JPKarlsen [FP MVP]]

Are you saying that you have the new site open in FP while trying to Publish to it? If so, your provider may not allow two simultanious logins.

Otherwise confirm the username password with your provider and remember that case matters.


Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.


nntp://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.frontpage.client/<[email protected]>

Hi, I am in a bit of a pickle. I want to transfer one live site to another
(300-400 meg) and I don't want to publish the whole site from my PC due to
bandwidth limitations. I can open two published sites in FP03 (live on the
web and resolved) and transfer between but the actual site I need to publish
to is a brand new one so the DNS isn't resolved yet. It has a fixed IP and
FP extensions are installed but when I go to set the remote site to that ip
address I get the fp popup to enter the user name and password but it wont
let me in. The user id and pass are correct and the site is live on the
static ip, whats going on??? FTP and fp just doesn't work at all on the
fixed ip but my ftp separate ftp app works fine. My hosting account I want
to transfer from will shut down soon so I need to transfer ASAP. Can someone
help please?



[microsoft.public.frontpage.client]

 

[Dennis]

Thanks for the quick response. One problem is both sites have the same
domain name so I need to do it before the first hosting expires and before
the domain is resolved to the new host, hence getting the fixed ip. I can't
understand why FP is just not liking the ip address I am trying to publish
to.

I may have to publish from my local web but 300-400 megs data transfer is
gonna cost me.

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Check with your host, as you should be able to publish to a static IP address as long as the
extensions are installed.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

 

[Dennis]

I am a hosting reseller so I setup the account myself and everything is
correct, I think . I even reset the FP extensions just incase they were
broken but still didn't work. It is as though the user id or pass are wrong
because if FP extensions were a problem with the site or the ip was not set
up correctly it wouldn't even get as far at the popup login box.

One of the sites is located at a completely different host than the other.
As far as FP goes - the local site is http://mydomain.com and the remote is
http://123.123.123.123 (my static ip address). In theory that should work.

Are you saying that you have the new site open in FP while trying to

Publish to it? If so, your provider may not allow two simultanious logins.

Otherwise confirm the username password with your provider and remember that case matters.


Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

Hi, I am in a bit of a pickle. I want to transfer one live site to another
(300-400 meg) and I don't want to publish the whole site from my PC due to
bandwidth limitations. I can open two published sites in FP03 (live on the
web and resolved) and transfer between but the actual site I need to publish
to is a brand new one so the DNS isn't resolved yet. It has a fixed IP and
FP extensions are installed but when I go to set the remote site to that ip
address I get the fp popup to enter the user name and password but it wont
let me in. The user id and pass are correct and the site is live on the
static ip, whats going on??? FTP and fp just doesn't work at all on the
fixed ip but my ftp separate ftp app works fine. My hosting account I want
to transfer from will shut down soon so I need to transfer ASAP. Can someone
help please?



[microsoft.public.frontpage.client]

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Since you are a reseller, is your account set up to share a single static IP with each domain that
you are allow to host under your reseller account or can you create individual domains with
individual static IP for each domain?

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

I am a hosting reseller so I setup the account myself and everything is
correct, I think . I even reset the FP extensions just incase they were
broken but still didn't work. It is as though the user id or pass are wrong
because if FP extensions were a problem with the site or the ip was not set
up correctly it wouldn't even get as far at the popup login box.

One of the sites is located at a completely different host than the other.
As far as FP goes - the local site is http://mydomain.com and the remote is
http://123.123.123.123 (my static ip address). In theory that should work.

Are you saying that you have the new site open in FP while trying to

Publish to it? If so, your provider may not allow two simultanious logins.

Otherwise confirm the username password with your provider and remember that case matters.


Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

Hi, I am in a bit of a pickle. I want to transfer one live site to another
(300-400 meg) and I don't want to publish the whole site from my PC due to
bandwidth limitations. I can open two published sites in FP03 (live on the
web and resolved) and transfer between but the actual site I need to publish
to is a brand new one so the DNS isn't resolved yet. It has a fixed IP and
FP extensions are installed but when I go to set the remote site to that ip
address I get the fp popup to enter the user name and password but it wont
let me in. The user id and pass are correct and the site is live on the
static ip, whats going on??? FTP and fp just doesn't work at all on the
fixed ip but my ftp separate ftp app works fine. My hosting account I want
to transfer from will shut down soon so I need to transfer ASAP. Can someone
help please?



[microsoft.public.frontpage.client]

 

[Dennis]

Thanks, I am going through it with them now as they also said there should
be no problems.

 

[Dennis]

No Thomas, I have it set to an individual ip, it is not sharing at all.

At least with this new host the support tickets are responded to in minutes
and I have just sent them to login details so they will have a look at it
for me.

Since you are a reseller, is your account set up to share a single static IP with each domain that
you are allow to host under your reseller account or can you create individual domains with
individual static IP for each domain?

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

I am a hosting reseller so I setup the account myself and everything is
correct, I think . I even reset the FP extensions just incase they were
broken but still didn't work. It is as though the user id or pass are wrong
because if FP extensions were a problem with the site or the ip was not set
up correctly it wouldn't even get as far at the popup login box.

One of the sites is located at a completely different host than the other.
As far as FP goes - the local site is http://mydomain.com and the remote is
http://123.123.123.123 (my static ip address). In theory that should work.




Publish to it? If so, your provider may not allow two simultanious logins. remember
that case matters.

Hi, I am in a bit of a pickle. I want to transfer one live site to another
(300-400 meg) and I don't want to publish the whole site from my PC

due
to

bandwidth limitations. I can open two published sites in FP03 (live

on
the

web and resolved) and transfer between but the actual site I need to publish
to is a brand new one so the DNS isn't resolved yet. It has a fixed

IP
and

FP extensions are installed but when I go to set the remote site to

that
ip

address I get the fp popup to enter the user name and password but it wont
let me in. The user id and pass are correct and the site is live on the
static ip, whats going on??? FTP and fp just doesn't work at all on the
fixed ip but my ftp separate ftp app works fine. My hosting account I want
to transfer from will shut down soon so I need to transfer ASAP. Can someone
help please?



[microsoft.public.frontpage.client]

 

[Dennis]

Well, just for interest, my host couldn't find the problem with the
publishing to http and the ip address but we managed to sort out the ftp. I
just have to publish to the host name and use the ftp user id pass for the
site. That seems to be working but man it the transfer slow. This is the
first time I have done a complete online local to remote transfer (local
being a live published web site) and a 300-400 meg site as well. It seems to
be taking forever just to retrieve pages. I'm not sure what FP is up to.
Maybe I should have tried to publish/transfer the site piece by piece. I'm
sure I'll get a timeout soon.

Has anyone done something like this before? Success?

 

[Dennis]

Hang on a minute!!! FP is saying that it is retrieving data from..... and
my modem is continually receiving packets non stop. Someone said before in a
post that the transfer of one web site to another online wouldn't go through
my PC and ISP account. It would just transfer from one host ip address to
another. Can someone please reassure me that the whole web site isn't being
downloaded on my PC first. How can I tell???

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

You have to remember that you are running FP locally, so there will be a certain amount of data
transfer between your PC and the two remote websites.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

 

[Dennis]

I realise that FP has to monitor the transfer but it seemed like it was
receiving way to many packets for that. I suppose I will have to get a dl/ul
meter and test the transfer of a file of known size and compare. The support
at my hosting were sure FP was passing all the data through my local
machine. If you are not sure about this yourself then I could reply to this
post after I do an dl/up check and let you know the results. It may take me
a day as I have been up all night on this and need some sleep soon. If I
have to just publish through my local machine then that is the way is has to
be. The hosting on the old account may expire within the next few hours
anyway.

 

[Dennis]

Ok just for the record. I transferred a file from one online site to
another. The file size was 3.1197meg. My local machine downloaded approx
3.4000 meg and uploaded about the same - total bandwidth usage over six
megs. What a waste of my time and bandwidth! I don't know why FP can't just
transfer directly to the hosting server I want to upload the files from the
hosting server where they are coming from. Perhaps it is not as simple as
what I thought. But at least I have answered my own question. After the
whole night trying.

 

[Crash Gordon®]

I'm no expert on this, but wouldn't bandwidth be used no matter how you moved it? Short of carrying a CD from one server to the other that is

Curious2


| Ok just for the record. I transferred a file from one online site to
| another. The file size was 3.1197meg. My local machine downloaded approx
| 3.4000 meg and uploaded about the same - total bandwidth usage over six
| megs. What a waste of my time and bandwidth! I don't know why FP can't just
| transfer directly to the hosting server I want to upload the files from the
| hosting server where they are coming from. Perhaps it is not as simple as
| what I thought. But at least I have answered my own question. After the
| whole night trying.
|
|
| | > Hi, I am in a bit of a pickle. I want to transfer one live site to another
| > (300-400 meg) and I don't want to publish the whole site from my PC due to
| > bandwidth limitations. I can open two published sites in FP03 (live on the
| > web and resolved) and transfer between but the actual site I need to
| publish
| > to is a brand new one so the DNS isn't resolved yet. It has a fixed IP and
| > FP extensions are installed but when I go to set the remote site to that
| ip
| > address I get the fp popup to enter the user name and password but it wont
| > let me in. The user id and pass are correct and the site is live on the
| > static ip, whats going on??? FTP and fp just doesn't work at all on the
| > fixed ip but my ftp separate ftp app works fine. My hosting account I want
| > to transfer from will shut down soon so I need to transfer ASAP. Can
| someone
| > help please?
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Dennis]

If your still tracking this thread, it looks like this is the case but I
don't think it should be. Take this as an example:

I have my .co.nz domain name and the DNS servers are in New Zealand but my
web site is hosted in the US. Now I don't know a heck of a lot about it all
either but I assume that when someone accesses my web site, the server in
New Zealand tells that person's machine where to go in the states to get all
the files to display the web site. I don't think all the files from my web
site go through the DNS server in NZ first then get directed to the person
who has requested them. Can you follow me? I thought the Internet followed
the fastest path.

It seems like FP can not make that direct connection between one site and
another, instead needs to pass EVERYTHING through the local machine first.
This frustrates me but it might not just be FP, perhaps all file transfer
has to be done this way.

I'm just so glad that I don't have a dialup modem otherwise I would be
completely screwed (400meg web site).


message I'm no expert on this, but wouldn't bandwidth be used no matter how you
moved it? Short of carrying a CD from one server to the other that is

Curious2


| Ok just for the record. I transferred a file from one online site to
| another. The file size was 3.1197meg. My local machine downloaded approx
| 3.4000 meg and uploaded about the same - total bandwidth usage over six
| megs. What a waste of my time and bandwidth! I don't know why FP can't
just
| transfer directly to the hosting server I want to upload the files from
the
| hosting server where they are coming from. Perhaps it is not as simple as
| what I thought. But at least I have answered my own question. After the
| whole night trying.
|
|
| | > Hi, I am in a bit of a pickle. I want to transfer one live site to
another
| > (300-400 meg) and I don't want to publish the whole site from my PC due
to
| > bandwidth limitations. I can open two published sites in FP03 (live on
the
| > web and resolved) and transfer between but the actual site I need to
| publish
| > to is a brand new one so the DNS isn't resolved yet. It has a fixed IP
and
| > FP extensions are installed but when I go to set the remote site to that
| ip
| > address I get the fp popup to enter the user name and password but it
wont
| > let me in. The user id and pass are correct and the site is live on the
| > static ip, whats going on??? FTP and fp just doesn't work at all on the
| > fixed ip but my ftp separate ftp app works fine. My hosting account I
want
| > to transfer from will shut down soon so I need to transfer ASAP. Can
| someone
| > help please?
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

When you publish to an IP Address you are bypassing the domain name look up function of the DNS
server.

There are x number of DNS server around the world, so when a user types your domain name, the
closest DNS server will route them to your IP address in the US.

It can take up to 72 hours for a domain to be updated to all DNS servers worldwide when a new domain
is created or the IP address is changed.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

 

[Crash Gordon®]

I'm tracking it more out of curiosity than the ability to help.

I always thought that the route could be many routes.

But from my view (and I may be totally wrong) is that traffic, whether it's file uploads/downloads or calls for pages, would count towards your web traffic count (maybe not the correct terminology) - no matter what route it came from. I dunno if I'm making any sense what-so-ever.


| If your still tracking this thread, it looks like this is the case but I
| don't think it should be. Take this as an example:
|
| I have my .co.nz domain name and the DNS servers are in New Zealand but my
| web site is hosted in the US. Now I don't know a heck of a lot about it all
| either but I assume that when someone accesses my web site, the server in
| New Zealand tells that person's machine where to go in the states to get all
| the files to display the web site. I don't think all the files from my web
| site go through the DNS server in NZ first then get directed to the person
| who has requested them. Can you follow me? I thought the Internet followed
| the fastest path.
|
| It seems like FP can not make that direct connection between one site and
| another, instead needs to pass EVERYTHING through the local machine first.
| This frustrates me but it might not just be FP, perhaps all file transfer
| has to be done this way.
|
| I'm just so glad that I don't have a dialup modem otherwise I would be
| completely screwed (400meg web site).
|
|
| message | I'm no expert on this, but wouldn't bandwidth be used no matter how you
| moved it? Short of carrying a CD from one server to the other that is
|
| Curious2
|
|
| | | Ok just for the record. I transferred a file from one online site to
| | another. The file size was 3.1197meg. My local machine downloaded approx
| | 3.4000 meg and uploaded about the same - total bandwidth usage over six
| | megs. What a waste of my time and bandwidth! I don't know why FP can't
| just
| | transfer directly to the hosting server I want to upload the files from
| the
| | hosting server where they are coming from. Perhaps it is not as simple as
| | what I thought. But at least I have answered my own question. After the
| | whole night trying.
| |
| |
| | | | > Hi, I am in a bit of a pickle. I want to transfer one live site to
| another
| | > (300-400 meg) and I don't want to publish the whole site from my PC due
| to
| | > bandwidth limitations. I can open two published sites in FP03 (live on
| the
| | > web and resolved) and transfer between but the actual site I need to
| | publish
| | > to is a brand new one so the DNS isn't resolved yet. It has a fixed IP
| and
| | > FP extensions are installed but when I go to set the remote site to that
| | ip
| | > address I get the fp popup to enter the user name and password but it
| wont
| | > let me in. The user id and pass are correct and the site is live on the
| | > static ip, whats going on??? FTP and fp just doesn't work at all on the
| | > fixed ip but my ftp separate ftp app works fine. My hosting account I
| want
| | > to transfer from will shut down soon so I need to transfer ASAP. Can
| | someone
| | > help please?
| | >
| | >
| |
| |
|
|

 

[Dennis]

Oh, I got it completely wrong then, I thought the DNS system worked a little
differently. To access someone's site I thought, or assumed I suppose is a
better word, your browser had to first access the country's TLD server (your
registrar or something like that) to find out the DNS address of that web
site and then after it knows where it is, take the quickest route from you
machine to access the site. I thought this because many ip address' here in
NZ start with 203.xxx... or 20x.xxx.. and when you change the NS records of
a .nz TLD it normally takes only a very short time to see it resolved.
Perhaps it is only resolved on NZ servers in a very short time but takes
more time to get to the rest of the world. I just thought that the
registrars in the US didn't update their records as much as the ones here
and that's why it takes a couple of days. With what you are saying, that
means every DNS server has the ip address of every web site in the world -
wow massive!

I still would like to be able to transfer files from one site to another
without going through my machine but I don't know much about the DNS stuff
so I will have to forgive FP for not letting it happen. I would also like to
flap my arms and fly but that's not going to happen either. Somethings I
just have to accept.

 

[Dennis]

Not really what I meant. I don't want to u/l or d/l anything. I just want
one web server in the US to transfer files to another web server in the US
and control the transfer from NZ. I thought this would be possible with FP
because I can open both US sites at the same time and drag and drop files
between them.


message I'm tracking it more out of curiosity than the ability to help.

I always thought that the route could be many routes.

But from my view (and I may be totally wrong) is that traffic, whether it's
file uploads/downloads or calls for pages, would count towards your web
traffic count (maybe not the correct terminology) - no matter what route it
came from. I dunno if I'm making any sense what-so-ever.


| If your still tracking this thread, it looks like this is the case but I
| don't think it should be. Take this as an example:
|
| I have my .co.nz domain name and the DNS servers are in New Zealand but my
| web site is hosted in the US. Now I don't know a heck of a lot about it
all
| either but I assume that when someone accesses my web site, the server in
| New Zealand tells that person's machine where to go in the states to get
all
| the files to display the web site. I don't think all the files from my web
| site go through the DNS server in NZ first then get directed to the person
| who has requested them. Can you follow me? I thought the Internet followed
| the fastest path.
|
| It seems like FP can not make that direct connection between one site and
| another, instead needs to pass EVERYTHING through the local machine first.
| This frustrates me but it might not just be FP, perhaps all file transfer
| has to be done this way.
|
| I'm just so glad that I don't have a dialup modem otherwise I would be
| completely screwed (400meg web site).
|
|
| message | I'm no expert on this, but wouldn't bandwidth be used no matter how you
| moved it? Short of carrying a CD from one server to the other that is
|
| Curious2
|
|
| | | Ok just for the record. I transferred a file from one online site to
| | another. The file size was 3.1197meg. My local machine downloaded approx
| | 3.4000 meg and uploaded about the same - total bandwidth usage over six
| | megs. What a waste of my time and bandwidth! I don't know why FP can't
| just
| | transfer directly to the hosting server I want to upload the files from
| the
| | hosting server where they are coming from. Perhaps it is not as simple
as
| | what I thought. But at least I have answered my own question. After the
| | whole night trying.
| |
| |
| | | | > Hi, I am in a bit of a pickle. I want to transfer one live site to
| another
| | > (300-400 meg) and I don't want to publish the whole site from my PC
due
| to
| | > bandwidth limitations. I can open two published sites in FP03 (live on
| the
| | > web and resolved) and transfer between but the actual site I need to
| | publish
| | > to is a brand new one so the DNS isn't resolved yet. It has a fixed IP
| and
| | > FP extensions are installed but when I go to set the remote site to
that
| | ip
| | > address I get the fp popup to enter the user name and password but it
| wont
| | > let me in. The user id and pass are correct and the site is live on
the
| | > static ip, whats going on??? FTP and fp just doesn't work at all on
the
| | > fixed ip but my ftp separate ftp app works fine. My hosting account I
| want
| | > to transfer from will shut down soon so I need to transfer ASAP. Can
| | someone
| | > help please?
| | >
| | >
| |
| |
|
|