Warning - FrontPage for Large Sites

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Exotic-Scales.com

Hopefully this will save someone else a lot of grief . . .

When I set out to document my company's software development methodology, I
unwisely decided to ignore the advice of our technical people, and used
Microsoft Front Page. I was cautious along the way, building the site and
testing it thoroughly at critical junctures to make sure I wasn't painting
myself into a corner. Everything seemed okay. When I was finished (2711
pages), I tested the site again, and everything appeared to be working. I
then decided to rename some of the pages that had blanks in them, so they
wouldn't show up as "%20". Again, having had long experience with various
flakey Microsoft products, I made a few test changes, recompiled, and
satisfied myself that nothing was amiss. Then I went back and changed the
remaining pages.

When I was finished, I found a number of anomalies. First, several pages
were not showing up on the button bar (they showed up as red "x"s). When I
went back into Frontpage, and double clicked on the suspect pages in the
navigator, I received an error message. I could see that the pages were
still in the folders, so I was able to drag them back to the navigator
structure, move their child pages, and remove the broken page. Why did this
occur? Who knows in a Microsoft world. That wasn't too bad - only took a
couple of hours to track down everything and fix it.

Then, when I tried to build the project, I get the following error:

Server error: The folder that would hold URL 'reference/tasks/define object
model/_overlay/Define_objuect_model.htm_nav_tabs010_hbtn.gif' does not exist
on the server

Well thanks a lot. I thought that was what FP was supposed to do!

Now, when I view the finished site, I have random buttons showing up with
no text on them. They WORK, and if you hover over them you see the right
path. Front Page simply fails to create the button gifs with the right text
on them.

This is really terrific. I've spent three months creating this site, and
this piece of Microsoft crap not only ruins it, but waits until it's
completed to do so. Could this really be an accident? Or does Microsoft do
this on purpose?

Sadly, I LIKE Front Page. I've used it for all of my simple websites for
years. However, if you plan to build anything bigger than a few pages, I'd
strongly advise a different tool.

Tomorrow morning I guess I'll start migrating the site to Dreamweaver,
which is what I should have used from the start.
 
R

Ronx

FrontPage can handle 3000 page sites easily, however some *servers* cannot.
Large sites should be broken into subwebs, which makes things easier both
for the author and the server. With suitably sized subwebs, the only limits
are disc-space and author's creativity.
 
M

Mike Mueller

It sounds like the issue was not FP related, but more in the
way you named your files. Garbage-In = Garbage out.
Computers do not have the intelligence to be able to fix all
of us humans mistakes.


Exotic-Scales.com wrote:
: Hopefully this will save someone else a lot of grief . . .
:
: When I set out to document my company's software
: development methodology, I unwisely decided to ignore the
: advice of our technical people, and used Microsoft Front
: Page. I was cautious along the way, building the site
: and testing it thoroughly at critical junctures to make
: sure I wasn't painting myself into a corner. Everything
: seemed okay. When I was finished (2711 pages), I tested
: the site again, and everything appeared to be working. I
: then decided to rename some of the pages that had blanks
: in them, so they wouldn't show up as "%20". Again,
: having had long experience with various flakey Microsoft
: products, I made a few test changes, recompiled, and
: satisfied myself that nothing was amiss. Then I went
: back and changed the remaining pages.
:
: When I was finished, I found a number of anomalies.
: First, several pages were not showing up on the button
: bar (they showed up as red "x"s). When I went back into
: Frontpage, and double clicked on the suspect pages in the
: navigator, I received an error message. I could see that
: the pages were still in the folders, so I was able to
: drag them back to the navigator structure, move their
: child pages, and remove the broken page. Why did this
: occur? Who knows in a Microsoft world. That wasn't too
: bad - only took a couple of hours to track down
: everything and fix it.
:
: Then, when I tried to build the project, I get the
: following error:
:
: Server error: The folder that would hold URL
: 'reference/tasks/define object
:
model/_overlay/Define_objuect_model.htm_nav_tabs010_hbtn.gif'
: does not exist on the server
:
: Well thanks a lot. I thought that was what FP was
: supposed to do!
:
: Now, when I view the finished site, I have random buttons
: showing up with no text on them. They WORK, and if you
: hover over them you see the right path. Front Page
: simply fails to create the button gifs with the right
: text on them.
:
: This is really terrific. I've spent three months
: creating this site, and this piece of Microsoft crap not
: only ruins it, but waits until it's completed to do so.
: Could this really be an accident? Or does Microsoft do
: this on purpose?
:
: Sadly, I LIKE Front Page. I've used it for all of my
: simple websites for years. However, if you plan to build
: anything bigger than a few pages, I'd strongly advise a
: different tool.
:
: Tomorrow morning I guess I'll start migrating the site to
: Dreamweaver, which is what I should have used from the
: start.
 
E

Exotic-Scales.com

Now isn't that a typical Micrsoft answer? You build the site using their
tools. You manage it using the facility provided in their tools. And when
the piece of crap screws everyting up, some Microsoft thrall says: "Duh, not
OUR fault."

Well, we've switched to Dreamweaver, thank you very much. As far as I'm
concerned, Bill Gates can fold it till it's all corners and ram it.

joe
 

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