way to mark deleted items as read automatically?

J

Jeff

Hello everyone,

Is there a way to automatically mark deleted items as "read" when you delete
them out of your inbox? What I mean is, when messages show up in my inbox,
sometimes I don't open them, I just delete them right to my trash. Yet the
trash shows tons of unread messages...... I hate preview pane, so I dont
want to use that.

I thought there was an option to "automatically mark items as read when
sending to trash" or something like that. Is it buried somewhere I cant find
it, help!

Thanks to all in advance.

Jeff
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

there is no such rule.

--
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Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

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J

Jeff

Thanks Diane. So what youre saying is that unread messages are maked as read
automatically when I move them to my deleted items folder? I have a lot of
blue numbers in blue parentheses next to my deletes items. I assume this
means I have "unread messages" in my deleted items.

I just tested this, it appears that unread messages are being automatically
marked as read when I delete them before reading/opening them. How is that
doing that automatically then? I'm confused.

Diane Poremsky said:
there is no such rule.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



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Jeff said:
Hello everyone,

Is there a way to automatically mark deleted items as "read" when you
delete
them out of your inbox? What I mean is, when messages show up in my
inbox,
sometimes I don't open them, I just delete them right to my trash. Yet
the
trash shows tons of unread messages...... I hate preview pane, so I dont
want to use that.

I thought there was an option to "automatically mark items as read when
sending to trash" or something like that. Is it buried somewhere I cant
find
it, help!

Thanks to all in advance.

Jeff
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

No. I'm saying there is no rule to mark them read. They aren't marked as
read when you delete them - send yourself some mail with read receipts and
delete them while marked unread, then empty deleted items. The numbers go
down as the items are deleted, unread.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



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Jeff said:
Thanks Diane. So what youre saying is that unread messages are maked as
read
automatically when I move them to my deleted items folder? I have a lot
of
blue numbers in blue parentheses next to my deletes items. I assume this
means I have "unread messages" in my deleted items.

I just tested this, it appears that unread messages are being
automatically
marked as read when I delete them before reading/opening them. How is
that
doing that automatically then? I'm confused.

Diane Poremsky said:
there is no such rule.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



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Jeff said:
Hello everyone,

Is there a way to automatically mark deleted items as "read" when you
delete
them out of your inbox? What I mean is, when messages show up in my
inbox,
sometimes I don't open them, I just delete them right to my trash. Yet
the
trash shows tons of unread messages...... I hate preview pane, so I
dont
want to use that.

I thought there was an option to "automatically mark items as read when
sending to trash" or something like that. Is it buried somewhere I
cant
find
it, help!

Thanks to all in advance.

Jeff
 
J

Jeff

sent several to myself, even from another work account, with and without read
receipts. They all mark themselves read when I delete them without opeining
them.

I first completely emptied the deleted items folder. I sent about 5 or 6
emails to myself (with and without receipts). deleted them one by one to the
trash without opening them. The trash for a split second showed a blue 1
then disappeared as I deleted each one. I checked the trash and theyre all
in there, not bolded at all, as if they were read. weird..........

Diane Poremsky said:
No. I'm saying there is no rule to mark them read. They aren't marked as
read when you delete them - send yourself some mail with read receipts and
delete them while marked unread, then empty deleted items. The numbers go
down as the items are deleted, unread.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



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Jeff said:
Thanks Diane. So what youre saying is that unread messages are maked as
read
automatically when I move them to my deleted items folder? I have a lot
of
blue numbers in blue parentheses next to my deletes items. I assume this
means I have "unread messages" in my deleted items.

I just tested this, it appears that unread messages are being
automatically
marked as read when I delete them before reading/opening them. How is
that
doing that automatically then? I'm confused.

Diane Poremsky said:
there is no such rule.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



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Hello everyone,

Is there a way to automatically mark deleted items as "read" when you
delete
them out of your inbox? What I mean is, when messages show up in my
inbox,
sometimes I don't open them, I just delete them right to my trash. Yet
the
trash shows tons of unread messages...... I hate preview pane, so I
dont
want to use that.

I thought there was an option to "automatically mark items as read when
sending to trash" or something like that. Is it buried somewhere I
cant
find
it, help!

Thanks to all in advance.

Jeff
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

something else is going on - they should be in the same read state as they
were when you deleted them. Did you get deleted unread or read receipts
back?





--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



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Jeff said:
sent several to myself, even from another work account, with and without
read
receipts. They all mark themselves read when I delete them without
opeining
them.

I first completely emptied the deleted items folder. I sent about 5 or 6
emails to myself (with and without receipts). deleted them one by one to
the
trash without opening them. The trash for a split second showed a blue 1
then disappeared as I deleted each one. I checked the trash and theyre
all
in there, not bolded at all, as if they were read. weird..........

Diane Poremsky said:
No. I'm saying there is no rule to mark them read. They aren't marked as
read when you delete them - send yourself some mail with read receipts
and
delete them while marked unread, then empty deleted items. The numbers go
down as the items are deleted, unread.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



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Jeff said:
Thanks Diane. So what youre saying is that unread messages are maked
as
read
automatically when I move them to my deleted items folder? I have a
lot
of
blue numbers in blue parentheses next to my deletes items. I assume
this
means I have "unread messages" in my deleted items.

I just tested this, it appears that unread messages are being
automatically
marked as read when I delete them before reading/opening them. How is
that
doing that automatically then? I'm confused.

:

there is no such rule.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



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Hello everyone,

Is there a way to automatically mark deleted items as "read" when
you
delete
them out of your inbox? What I mean is, when messages show up in my
inbox,
sometimes I don't open them, I just delete them right to my trash.
Yet
the
trash shows tons of unread messages...... I hate preview pane, so I
dont
want to use that.

I thought there was an option to "automatically mark items as read
when
sending to trash" or something like that. Is it buried somewhere I
cant
find
it, help!

Thanks to all in advance.

Jeff
 
J

Jeff

ok, here's what I get with ANY message I get, read receipt on or off, I get
the same phenomenon for receipts as well, ANY email to my inbox:

[With preview pane set to ON, at bottom]
- messages are BOLD on receipt to my inbox
- when I highlight (not open) message, while it remains BOLD, delete using
the X in my toolbar --> message moves to Deleted Items folder, little blue
(1) pops up above Deleted Items folder then immediately disappears
- when U click on the Deleted Items folder, message is no longer BOLD (as if
read)

[With preview pane set to OFF]
- messages are BOLD on receipt to my inbox
- when I highlight (not open) message, while it remains BOLD, delete using
the X in my toolbar --> message moves to Deleted Items folder, little blue
(1) pops up and REMAINS (as if unread message in Deleted Items folder)
- clicking on Deleted Items Folder, message still in BOLD, little blue (1)
still there
- clicking back to my inbox (never opening message), blue (1) disappears
above Deleted Items
- click back to Deleted Items to check, message is NOT bold (as if were read)

The ONLY 2 things I have checked in Options>Other>Reading Pane are:
Mark Item as read when selection changes
AND
Single key reading using spacebar


Weird huh? Have I discovered a bug?

Diane Poremsky said:
something else is going on - they should be in the same read state as they
were when you deleted them. Did you get deleted unread or read receipts
back?





--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



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Jeff said:
sent several to myself, even from another work account, with and without
read
receipts. They all mark themselves read when I delete them without
opeining
them.

I first completely emptied the deleted items folder. I sent about 5 or 6
emails to myself (with and without receipts). deleted them one by one to
the
trash without opening them. The trash for a split second showed a blue 1
then disappeared as I deleted each one. I checked the trash and theyre
all
in there, not bolded at all, as if they were read. weird..........

Diane Poremsky said:
No. I'm saying there is no rule to mark them read. They aren't marked as
read when you delete them - send yourself some mail with read receipts
and
delete them while marked unread, then empty deleted items. The numbers go
down as the items are deleted, unread.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



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Thanks Diane. So what youre saying is that unread messages are maked
as
read
automatically when I move them to my deleted items folder? I have a
lot
of
blue numbers in blue parentheses next to my deletes items. I assume
this
means I have "unread messages" in my deleted items.

I just tested this, it appears that unread messages are being
automatically
marked as read when I delete them before reading/opening them. How is
that
doing that automatically then? I'm confused.

:

there is no such rule.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



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Hello everyone,

Is there a way to automatically mark deleted items as "read" when
you
delete
them out of your inbox? What I mean is, when messages show up in my
inbox,
sometimes I don't open them, I just delete them right to my trash.
Yet
the
trash shows tons of unread messages...... I hate preview pane, so I
dont
want to use that.

I thought there was an option to "automatically mark items as read
when
sending to trash" or something like that. Is it buried somewhere I
cant
find
it, help!

Thanks to all in advance.

Jeff
 
J

Jeff

UPDATE:

If I uncheck "Mark Item as read when selection changes" in
Reading Pane Options, everything behaves as you say it should (i.e. normal).
Blue (1) persists, and messages stay bold.

That's what that little checkmark does! I always wondered what that meant.
I guess it means when you click on any other folder, your messages get marked
read. Combined with the Reading Pane engaged, messages get marked read when
they move to the deleted folder. Kinda makes sense?

A nice litlle tip/trick did I discover or did you already know all this and
I'm an idiot? Sorry for the wild goose chase if it's the latter. Thank you
for all your responses!

Jeff

Jeff said:
ok, here's what I get with ANY message I get, read receipt on or off, I get
the same phenomenon for receipts as well, ANY email to my inbox:

[With preview pane set to ON, at bottom]
- messages are BOLD on receipt to my inbox
- when I highlight (not open) message, while it remains BOLD, delete using
the X in my toolbar --> message moves to Deleted Items folder, little blue
(1) pops up above Deleted Items folder then immediately disappears
- when U click on the Deleted Items folder, message is no longer BOLD (as if
read)

[With preview pane set to OFF]
- messages are BOLD on receipt to my inbox
- when I highlight (not open) message, while it remains BOLD, delete using
the X in my toolbar --> message moves to Deleted Items folder, little blue
(1) pops up and REMAINS (as if unread message in Deleted Items folder)
- clicking on Deleted Items Folder, message still in BOLD, little blue (1)
still there
- clicking back to my inbox (never opening message), blue (1) disappears
above Deleted Items
- click back to Deleted Items to check, message is NOT bold (as if were read)

The ONLY 2 things I have checked in Options>Other>Reading Pane are:
Mark Item as read when selection changes
AND
Single key reading using spacebar


Weird huh? Have I discovered a bug?

Diane Poremsky said:
something else is going on - they should be in the same read state as they
were when you deleted them. Did you get deleted unread or read receipts
back?





--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



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Jeff said:
sent several to myself, even from another work account, with and without
read
receipts. They all mark themselves read when I delete them without
opeining
them.

I first completely emptied the deleted items folder. I sent about 5 or 6
emails to myself (with and without receipts). deleted them one by one to
the
trash without opening them. The trash for a split second showed a blue 1
then disappeared as I deleted each one. I checked the trash and theyre
all
in there, not bolded at all, as if they were read. weird..........

:

No. I'm saying there is no rule to mark them read. They aren't marked as
read when you delete them - send yourself some mail with read receipts
and
delete them while marked unread, then empty deleted items. The numbers go
down as the items are deleted, unread.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



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Thanks Diane. So what youre saying is that unread messages are maked
as
read
automatically when I move them to my deleted items folder? I have a
lot
of
blue numbers in blue parentheses next to my deletes items. I assume
this
means I have "unread messages" in my deleted items.

I just tested this, it appears that unread messages are being
automatically
marked as read when I delete them before reading/opening them. How is
that
doing that automatically then? I'm confused.

:

there is no such rule.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



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Hello everyone,

Is there a way to automatically mark deleted items as "read" when
you
delete
them out of your inbox? What I mean is, when messages show up in my
inbox,
sometimes I don't open them, I just delete them right to my trash.
Yet
the
trash shows tons of unread messages...... I hate preview pane, so I
dont
want to use that.

I thought there was an option to "automatically mark items as read
when
sending to trash" or something like that. Is it buried somewhere I
cant
find
it, help!

Thanks to all in advance.

Jeff
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

if the preview pane is on and if the setting is mark when selection changes,
it's going to be marked read when the selection changes during the delete.

If you never look in the deleted folder, are they marked as read?

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



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Jeff said:
ok, here's what I get with ANY message I get, read receipt on or off, I
get
the same phenomenon for receipts as well, ANY email to my inbox:

[With preview pane set to ON, at bottom]
- messages are BOLD on receipt to my inbox
- when I highlight (not open) message, while it remains BOLD, delete using
the X in my toolbar --> message moves to Deleted Items folder, little
blue
(1) pops up above Deleted Items folder then immediately disappears
- when U click on the Deleted Items folder, message is no longer BOLD (as
if
read)

[With preview pane set to OFF]
- messages are BOLD on receipt to my inbox
- when I highlight (not open) message, while it remains BOLD, delete using
the X in my toolbar --> message moves to Deleted Items folder, little
blue
(1) pops up and REMAINS (as if unread message in Deleted Items folder)
- clicking on Deleted Items Folder, message still in BOLD, little blue (1)
still there
- clicking back to my inbox (never opening message), blue (1) disappears
above Deleted Items
- click back to Deleted Items to check, message is NOT bold (as if were
read)

The ONLY 2 things I have checked in Options>Other>Reading Pane are:
Mark Item as read when selection changes
AND
Single key reading using spacebar


Weird huh? Have I discovered a bug?

Diane Poremsky said:
something else is going on - they should be in the same read state as
they
were when you deleted them. Did you get deleted unread or read receipts
back?





--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



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Jeff said:
sent several to myself, even from another work account, with and
without
read
receipts. They all mark themselves read when I delete them without
opeining
them.

I first completely emptied the deleted items folder. I sent about 5 or
6
emails to myself (with and without receipts). deleted them one by one
to
the
trash without opening them. The trash for a split second showed a blue
1
then disappeared as I deleted each one. I checked the trash and theyre
all
in there, not bolded at all, as if they were read. weird..........

:

No. I'm saying there is no rule to mark them read. They aren't marked
as
read when you delete them - send yourself some mail with read receipts
and
delete them while marked unread, then empty deleted items. The numbers
go
down as the items are deleted, unread.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:
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Thanks Diane. So what youre saying is that unread messages are
maked
as
read
automatically when I move them to my deleted items folder? I have a
lot
of
blue numbers in blue parentheses next to my deletes items. I assume
this
means I have "unread messages" in my deleted items.

I just tested this, it appears that unread messages are being
automatically
marked as read when I delete them before reading/opening them. How
is
that
doing that automatically then? I'm confused.

:

there is no such rule.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:
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Hello everyone,

Is there a way to automatically mark deleted items as "read" when
you
delete
them out of your inbox? What I mean is, when messages show up in
my
inbox,
sometimes I don't open them, I just delete them right to my
trash.
Yet
the
trash shows tons of unread messages...... I hate preview pane,
so I
dont
want to use that.

I thought there was an option to "automatically mark items as
read
when
sending to trash" or something like that. Is it buried somewhere
I
cant
find
it, help!

Thanks to all in advance.

Jeff
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

BTW - your original message indicated this wasn't happening and you wished
it did -

"Is there a way to automatically mark deleted items as "read" when you
delete
them out of your inbox? What I mean is, when messages show up in my inbox,
sometimes I don't open them, I just delete them right to my trash. Yet the
trash shows tons of unread messages...... "

Now you're saying it works the way you would like it to?

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



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Jeff said:
ok, here's what I get with ANY message I get, read receipt on or off, I
get
the same phenomenon for receipts as well, ANY email to my inbox:

[With preview pane set to ON, at bottom]
- messages are BOLD on receipt to my inbox
- when I highlight (not open) message, while it remains BOLD, delete using
the X in my toolbar --> message moves to Deleted Items folder, little
blue
(1) pops up above Deleted Items folder then immediately disappears
- when U click on the Deleted Items folder, message is no longer BOLD (as
if
read)

[With preview pane set to OFF]
- messages are BOLD on receipt to my inbox
- when I highlight (not open) message, while it remains BOLD, delete using
the X in my toolbar --> message moves to Deleted Items folder, little
blue
(1) pops up and REMAINS (as if unread message in Deleted Items folder)
- clicking on Deleted Items Folder, message still in BOLD, little blue (1)
still there
- clicking back to my inbox (never opening message), blue (1) disappears
above Deleted Items
- click back to Deleted Items to check, message is NOT bold (as if were
read)

The ONLY 2 things I have checked in Options>Other>Reading Pane are:
Mark Item as read when selection changes
AND
Single key reading using spacebar


Weird huh? Have I discovered a bug?

Diane Poremsky said:
something else is going on - they should be in the same read state as
they
were when you deleted them. Did you get deleted unread or read receipts
back?





--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



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Jeff said:
sent several to myself, even from another work account, with and
without
read
receipts. They all mark themselves read when I delete them without
opeining
them.

I first completely emptied the deleted items folder. I sent about 5 or
6
emails to myself (with and without receipts). deleted them one by one
to
the
trash without opening them. The trash for a split second showed a blue
1
then disappeared as I deleted each one. I checked the trash and theyre
all
in there, not bolded at all, as if they were read. weird..........

:

No. I'm saying there is no rule to mark them read. They aren't marked
as
read when you delete them - send yourself some mail with read receipts
and
delete them while marked unread, then empty deleted items. The numbers
go
down as the items are deleted, unread.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:
(e-mail address removed)


Thanks Diane. So what youre saying is that unread messages are
maked
as
read
automatically when I move them to my deleted items folder? I have a
lot
of
blue numbers in blue parentheses next to my deletes items. I assume
this
means I have "unread messages" in my deleted items.

I just tested this, it appears that unread messages are being
automatically
marked as read when I delete them before reading/opening them. How
is
that
doing that automatically then? I'm confused.

:

there is no such rule.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



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Hello everyone,

Is there a way to automatically mark deleted items as "read" when
you
delete
them out of your inbox? What I mean is, when messages show up in
my
inbox,
sometimes I don't open them, I just delete them right to my
trash.
Yet
the
trash shows tons of unread messages...... I hate preview pane,
so I
dont
want to use that.

I thought there was an option to "automatically mark items as
read
when
sending to trash" or something like that. Is it buried somewhere
I
cant
find
it, help!

Thanks to all in advance.

Jeff
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

It has nothing to do with folders - it has everything to do with the
selected message - if it is shown in the preview pane. It only applies if
the reading (or preview pane is enabled).

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Jeff said:
UPDATE:

If I uncheck "Mark Item as read when selection changes" in
Reading Pane Options, everything behaves as you say it should (i.e.
normal).
Blue (1) persists, and messages stay bold.

That's what that little checkmark does! I always wondered what that
meant.
I guess it means when you click on any other folder, your messages get
marked
read. Combined with the Reading Pane engaged, messages get marked read
when
they move to the deleted folder. Kinda makes sense?

A nice litlle tip/trick did I discover or did you already know all this
and
I'm an idiot? Sorry for the wild goose chase if it's the latter. Thank
you
for all your responses!

Jeff

Jeff said:
ok, here's what I get with ANY message I get, read receipt on or off, I
get
the same phenomenon for receipts as well, ANY email to my inbox:

[With preview pane set to ON, at bottom]
- messages are BOLD on receipt to my inbox
- when I highlight (not open) message, while it remains BOLD, delete
using
the X in my toolbar --> message moves to Deleted Items folder, little
blue
(1) pops up above Deleted Items folder then immediately disappears
- when U click on the Deleted Items folder, message is no longer BOLD (as
if
read)

[With preview pane set to OFF]
- messages are BOLD on receipt to my inbox
- when I highlight (not open) message, while it remains BOLD, delete
using
the X in my toolbar --> message moves to Deleted Items folder, little
blue
(1) pops up and REMAINS (as if unread message in Deleted Items folder)
- clicking on Deleted Items Folder, message still in BOLD, little blue
(1)
still there
- clicking back to my inbox (never opening message), blue (1) disappears
above Deleted Items
- click back to Deleted Items to check, message is NOT bold (as if were
read)

The ONLY 2 things I have checked in Options>Other>Reading Pane are:
Mark Item as read when selection changes
AND
Single key reading using spacebar


Weird huh? Have I discovered a bug?

Diane Poremsky said:
something else is going on - they should be in the same read state as
they
were when you deleted them. Did you get deleted unread or read receipts
back?





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Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

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sent several to myself, even from another work account, with and
without
read
receipts. They all mark themselves read when I delete them without
opeining
them.

I first completely emptied the deleted items folder. I sent about 5
or 6
emails to myself (with and without receipts). deleted them one by
one to
the
trash without opening them. The trash for a split second showed a
blue 1
then disappeared as I deleted each one. I checked the trash and
theyre
all
in there, not bolded at all, as if they were read. weird..........

:

No. I'm saying there is no rule to mark them read. They aren't
marked as
read when you delete them - send yourself some mail with read
receipts
and
delete them while marked unread, then empty deleted items. The
numbers go
down as the items are deleted, unread.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

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Thanks Diane. So what youre saying is that unread messages are
maked
as
read
automatically when I move them to my deleted items folder? I have
a
lot
of
blue numbers in blue parentheses next to my deletes items. I
assume
this
means I have "unread messages" in my deleted items.

I just tested this, it appears that unread messages are being
automatically
marked as read when I delete them before reading/opening them.
How is
that
doing that automatically then? I'm confused.

:

there is no such rule.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks?
http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



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Hello everyone,

Is there a way to automatically mark deleted items as "read"
when
you
delete
them out of your inbox? What I mean is, when messages show up
in my
inbox,
sometimes I don't open them, I just delete them right to my
trash.
Yet
the
trash shows tons of unread messages...... I hate preview pane,
so I
dont
want to use that.

I thought there was an option to "automatically mark items as
read
when
sending to trash" or something like that. Is it buried
somewhere I
cant
find
it, help!

Thanks to all in advance.

Jeff
 
J

Jeff

my preview pane was off, I was playing around with it I guess, not knowing it
actually had something to do, with the combination of that option.

I was getting a mixed bag of results in the deleted items and could never
figure out how it used to be set up, cos I remember being able to delete
without reading & having it marked read.

Glad I figured it out.

Diane Poremsky said:
BTW - your original message indicated this wasn't happening and you wished
it did -

"Is there a way to automatically mark deleted items as "read" when you
delete
them out of your inbox? What I mean is, when messages show up in my inbox,
sometimes I don't open them, I just delete them right to my trash. Yet the
trash shows tons of unread messages...... "

Now you're saying it works the way you would like it to?

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



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Jeff said:
ok, here's what I get with ANY message I get, read receipt on or off, I
get
the same phenomenon for receipts as well, ANY email to my inbox:

[With preview pane set to ON, at bottom]
- messages are BOLD on receipt to my inbox
- when I highlight (not open) message, while it remains BOLD, delete using
the X in my toolbar --> message moves to Deleted Items folder, little
blue
(1) pops up above Deleted Items folder then immediately disappears
- when U click on the Deleted Items folder, message is no longer BOLD (as
if
read)

[With preview pane set to OFF]
- messages are BOLD on receipt to my inbox
- when I highlight (not open) message, while it remains BOLD, delete using
the X in my toolbar --> message moves to Deleted Items folder, little
blue
(1) pops up and REMAINS (as if unread message in Deleted Items folder)
- clicking on Deleted Items Folder, message still in BOLD, little blue (1)
still there
- clicking back to my inbox (never opening message), blue (1) disappears
above Deleted Items
- click back to Deleted Items to check, message is NOT bold (as if were
read)

The ONLY 2 things I have checked in Options>Other>Reading Pane are:
Mark Item as read when selection changes
AND
Single key reading using spacebar


Weird huh? Have I discovered a bug?

Diane Poremsky said:
something else is going on - they should be in the same read state as
they
were when you deleted them. Did you get deleted unread or read receipts
back?





--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:
(e-mail address removed)


sent several to myself, even from another work account, with and
without
read
receipts. They all mark themselves read when I delete them without
opeining
them.

I first completely emptied the deleted items folder. I sent about 5 or
6
emails to myself (with and without receipts). deleted them one by one
to
the
trash without opening them. The trash for a split second showed a blue
1
then disappeared as I deleted each one. I checked the trash and theyre
all
in there, not bolded at all, as if they were read. weird..........

:

No. I'm saying there is no rule to mark them read. They aren't marked
as
read when you delete them - send yourself some mail with read receipts
and
delete them while marked unread, then empty deleted items. The numbers
go
down as the items are deleted, unread.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:
(e-mail address removed)


Thanks Diane. So what youre saying is that unread messages are
maked
as
read
automatically when I move them to my deleted items folder? I have a
lot
of
blue numbers in blue parentheses next to my deletes items. I assume
this
means I have "unread messages" in my deleted items.

I just tested this, it appears that unread messages are being
automatically
marked as read when I delete them before reading/opening them. How
is
that
doing that automatically then? I'm confused.

:

there is no such rule.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/



Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:
(e-mail address removed)


Hello everyone,

Is there a way to automatically mark deleted items as "read" when
you
delete
them out of your inbox? What I mean is, when messages show up in
my
inbox,
sometimes I don't open them, I just delete them right to my
trash.
Yet
the
trash shows tons of unread messages...... I hate preview pane,
so I
dont
want to use that.

I thought there was an option to "automatically mark items as
read
when
sending to trash" or something like that. Is it buried somewhere
I
cant
find
it, help!

Thanks to all in advance.

Jeff
 

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