Website alignments in Publisher "website preview"

[Lautredavid]

I have seen some similar posts on this site from two years ago, but am hoping
for more specific info. Building a website with MS Publisher. Pages look
great until I look at them in "website preview", when there is a certain
amount of misalignment of type and graphics. I have multiple layers of
graphics, overlapping photos etc.. The pages look great when converted to .
pdf files and viewed with a .pdf viewer, but when viewed in Publoisher
"website preview" they are messed up, especially the type.

I wonder if this has something to do with embedding fonts? The fonts I use
reproduce fine in .pdf, and some of them are fine in Publisher "website
preview" but other produce bad line breaks, wrong size, etc., even though
everything looks perfect on the Publisher pages. The links work OK in
"website preview".

Guidance, anyone? Are the pages too elaborate, perhaps (background plus
photos plus text boxes plus MS "shapes"?¿?¿?? As I said they reperoduce phone
when converted to .pdf and viewed with Adobe Acrobat reader, but I don't
think I can post them on a website server in .pdf format.

 

[Spike]

What version of publisher?
What version of browser?
What is the URL?

Using your search engine of choice, look at "web friendly fonts" for a
start.
Publisher produces printable outputs that are like the publisher display
The web outputs are not WYSIWYG because of the way browsers interpret the
code.
The closest match for text is obtained by clearing the text format and using
web friendly plain fonts. Once you find a format or formats you like,
create a style for each and use them through out your site.

Spike

 

[Lautredavid]

Publisher 2003, on Vista, service pack 2, 64-bit, Internet Explorer, latest
update: what is that? 9 or something? Not very adventurous when it comes to
applications; I follow Gates's orders.

No URL yet; not posted until ready,. but problems occur when viewing in
"website preview" which opens Explorer and there type is messed up: vertical
spacing, line breaks, etc, and since you have to manually hyphenate in
Publisher, once line breaks change, hyphenation is in the wrong place.

I understand now that print outputs from Publisher (I have done other kinds
of pubs) are WYSIWYG but browsers read the code differently. Publisher had a
warning about using "web-friendly fonts" or something like that, but I didn´t
understand it's significance. I will create some new styles as you suggest.
Lot of matl will have to be redone but I guess no choice.

Once photo collages are "ungrouped," they seems to work OK; I think the
problem is largely with blocks of type so your theory makes sense.

Many thanks. Any more detailed suggestion based on versions supplied wd be
appreciated.

What version of publisher?
What version of browser?
What is the URL?

Using your search engine of choice, look at "web friendly fonts" for a
start.
Publisher produces printable outputs that are like the publisher display
The web outputs are not WYSIWYG because of the way browsers interpret the
code.
The closest match for text is obtained by clearing the text format and using
web friendly plain fonts. Once you find a format or formats you like,
create a style for each and use them through out your site.

Spike

I have seen some similar posts on this site from two years ago, but am
hoping

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when converted to .pdf and viewed with Adobe Acrobat reader, but I don't
think I can post them on a website server in .pdf format.

 

[Lautredavid via OfficeKB.com]

Sorry, DavidF. (I am also David F. Very confusing.)

I was wrong. The Office suite I have installed includes Publisher 2007, not
2003. Any special instrux?

You have both been extraordinarily helpful. I just assumed all Word
formatting would be compatible with Publisher. I have learned something.

Select any text > Format > font and in the font dialog check 'show only web
fonts' and that will tell you which fonts you can use with a web
publication. Also avoid special paragraph spacing, line spacing, indents,
etc with webs. Simply put, some print formatting will not convert to web
format. You just have to test as you go.

And since you are using Pub 2003, be sure to go to Tools > Options > Web tab
and uncheck 'Rely on VML...' and 'Allow png...".

DavidF

Publisher 2003, on Vista, service pack 2, 64-bit, Internet Explorer,
latest

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[DavidF]

Select any text > Format > font and in the font dialog check 'show only web
fonts' and that will tell you which fonts you can use with a web
publication. Also avoid special paragraph spacing, line spacing, indents,
etc with webs. Simply put, some print formatting will not convert to web
format. You just have to test as you go.

And since you are using Pub 2003, be sure to go to Tools > Options > Web tab
and uncheck 'Rely on VML...' and 'Allow png...".

DavidF

Publisher 2003, on Vista, service pack 2, 64-bit, Internet Explorer,
latest
update: what is that? 9 or something? Not very adventurous when it comes
to
applications; I follow Gates's orders.

No URL yet; not posted until ready,. but problems occur when viewing in
"website preview" which opens Explorer and there type is messed up:
vertical
spacing, line breaks, etc, and since you have to manually hyphenate in
Publisher, once line breaks change, hyphenation is in the wrong place.

I understand now that print outputs from Publisher (I have done other
kinds
of pubs) are WYSIWYG but browsers read the code differently. Publisher had
a
warning about using "web-friendly fonts" or something like that, but I
didn´t
understand it's significance. I will create some new styles as you
suggest.
Lot of matl will have to be redone but I guess no choice.

Once photo collages are "ungrouped," they seems to work OK; I think the
problem is largely with blocks of type so your theory makes sense.

Many thanks. Any more detailed suggestion based on versions supplied wd be
appreciated.

What version of publisher?
What version of browser?
What is the URL?

Using your search engine of choice, look at "web friendly fonts" for a
start.
Publisher produces printable outputs that are like the publisher display
The web outputs are not WYSIWYG because of the way browsers interpret the
code.
The closest match for text is obtained by clearing the text format and
using
web friendly plain fonts. Once you find a format or formats you like,
create a style for each and use them through out your site.

Spike

I have seen some similar posts on this site from two years ago, but am
hoping

[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]

when converted to .pdf and viewed with Adobe Acrobat reader, but I don't
think I can post them on a website server in .pdf format.

 

[DavidF]

So are we talking to ourselves? <g>

MSFT removed the VML option in 2007, so you don't have to worry about that.

Read through the posts for the last month and you will learn most of what
you need to know.

In general you just have to get used to the fact that print media and web
media or two different things, and though there is cross over there are
going to be things you can do in print that will never convert to html. Just
test as you go, and if you run across something that doesn't work as
expected, try a different approach or post back and we might be able to
provide a workaround that will give you the effect you are looking for.

I would also suggest that you download and install FireFox and test your
site with that browser as you build it. There are some things that will work
in IE but not FF. Get your pages to render correctly in both IE and FF and
they will render in the other major browsers as a generality.

DavidF

Sorry, DavidF. (I am also David F. Very confusing.)

I was wrong. The Office suite I have installed includes Publisher 2007,
not
2003. Any special instrux?

You have both been extraordinarily helpful. I just assumed all Word
formatting would be compatible with Publisher. I have learned something.

Select any text > Format > font and in the font dialog check 'show only
web
fonts' and that will tell you which fonts you can use with a web
publication. Also avoid special paragraph spacing, line spacing, indents,
etc with webs. Simply put, some print formatting will not convert to web
format. You just have to test as you go.

And since you are using Pub 2003, be sure to go to Tools > Options > Web
tab
and uncheck 'Rely on VML...' and 'Allow png...".

DavidF

Publisher 2003, on Vista, service pack 2, 64-bit, Internet Explorer,
latest

[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]

when converted to .pdf and viewed with Adobe Acrobat reader, but I
don't
think I can post them on a website server in .pdf format.