Website display in different browsers and different resolutions

[Ari Gold]

Does anyone know of a website or a free program that would enable you to see
your website in different resolutions and in different browsers? I use and
prefer 1024 x 768 but I noticed several people in my office use 800 x 600 so
I went back and previewed each page in 800 x 600 resolution and made
adjustments, although my link bar still spills onto 2 lines, I can live with
it. But everyone here uses IE and I am NOT downloading firefox again (had it
before the website, hated it) just to preview. Anyone know an easy solution?

Our website is www.ajwinc.com

Also, if anyone sees anything else I could improve, I welcome critiques and
suggestions! I love this forum and often use it to find answers to common
problems in FP. This is my first website, I took a class in school on FP (2
years ago and havent used FP since) and we made disk based webpages but never
published anything. I'm learning a lot!

Thanks in advance.

 

[Murray]

Here's something for free:

* Set your display to its maximum resolution
* Open your browser and maximize it
* Browse to your website

That's how your site will display on the widest browser viewport at that
resolution.

* Grab the right border of the browser window and start making the width
less

For each incremental change in the width, that's how your website will
display on a resolution that allows a browser of that width to be practical

* Keep decreasing the width until you get to the minimum width you want to
support

That's how your site will display on screens with that resolution with
maximized browser windows.

Remember - most people do NOT browse with a maximized window. Also remember
that even when maximized, the maximum width will always be less than the
screen width because of the browser chrome.

 

[P@tty Ayers]

Hi Ari,

Does anyone know of a website or a free program that would enable you to
see
your website in different resolutions and in different browsers?

You can easily simulate different resolutions/browser window sizes by just
re-sizing your own browser. I use something like this as a guide for
resizing my browser:
http://www.carolinawebsolutions.com/browser_window_sizes.html .

... But everyone here uses IE and I am NOT downloading firefox again (had
it
before the website, hated it) just to preview. Anyone know an easy
solution?

Since Firefox is free and simple to install, I doubt you're going to find
any browser-simulator program for it.

Our website is www.ajwinc.com

Also, if anyone sees anything else I could improve, I welcome critiques
and
suggestions!

The most obvious thing is that your code <% @language="vbscript" %> is
showing in plain sight at the top of the Home page. I'm don't think you need
that line of code, seeing as you're not using any VBScript, at least that I
can see - you should be able to just delete it.

 

[Ronx]

Screen resolution has little to do with browser size, apart from setting a
maximum. Many users have monitors set to a high resolution, but open their
browsers in a window at 800x600.

The easiest way to check a page at various sizes is to use File->Preview in
browser, and choose the different sizes offered. There is a difference
between 800x600 window and 800x600 screen resolution, but this is slight.
As for other browsers, there is nothing that will replace the real thing,
whether you hate it or not. - other people prefer other browsers over IE,
and other browsers do render differently, especially pages designed for
quirks mode.

 

[Ari Gold]

Thank you. When i view the website on the computers here I don't see that
code showing that you're referring to, but I'll take a look at the code. I
don't want to install firefox, I'm hoping most of our customers will be using
IE as most are not computer savvy, some may have netscape or others but I'm
guessing most have IE.

I had never thought of resizing the window..duh! Thanks again..

 

[Ari Gold]

Thanks Murray,
I'm embarrassed to say that I had never thought of resizing the browser
window!
How obvious!

And most people don't browse with the windows maximized? I never thought of
that either...I *always* browse in the full window, can't stand having to
scroll!

Thank you again.

 

[Ari Gold]

OK, Thank you. I guess I should consider downloading some other browsers,
but my PC was so much faster after I got rid of firefox and that's why I am
hesisitant to reinstall it. Maybe I'll install it on one of the PC's nobody
uses instead of on my own.

And what are pages designed for quirks mode?

Thanks.

 

[Murray]

but my PC was so much faster after I got rid of firefox and that's why I

am
hesisitant to reinstall it.

I can't imagine that there's anything other than a coincidental association
here. Installing FF would not slow your system down....

 

[Murray]

Pages without valid and complete doctypes will be rendered in quirks (or
bugwards) mode. It's a mistake to base the proper rendering of your site on
quirks mode browsers.

To read more, go here -

http://www.ericmeyeroncss.com/bonus/render-mode.html

 

[Murray]

You're welcome!

--
Murray
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Thanks Murray,
I'm embarrassed to say that I had never thought of resizing the browser
window!
How obvious!

And most people don't browse with the windows maximized? I never thought
of
that either...I *always* browse in the full window, can't stand having to
scroll!

Thank you again.

 

[P@tty Ayers]

Thank you. When i view the website on the computers here I don't see that
code showing that you're referring to, but I'll take a look at the code.

Here's what it looks like in Firefox: http://pattysite.com/jobbers.jpg

I
don't want to install firefox, I'm hoping most of our customers will be
using
IE as most are not computer savvy, some may have netscape or others but
I'm
guessing most have IE.

Most will have IE, but something like 15% will have Firefox or other
browsers. They really can't be ignored.. :\

 

[Ari Gold]

Eeek! Oh my that's horrible. I'll download some different browsers for
testing to one of our PC's nobody uses.

Thanks again.

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

FYIL VBScript only runs in IE Browsers client-side. You would have to run this server-side to avoid
the error.

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Eeek! Oh my that's horrible. I'll download some different browsers for
testing to one of our PC's nobody uses.

Thanks again.

 

[Ari Gold]

I never noticed that option, thank you for pointing that out.

I learn so much here!

 

[Ari Gold]

Wow I had no idea about what a doctype was, they never taught us this in
school.
I'm not sure I'll redo the code on this particular web site but I will
definitely remember that when I do the next one.

Thanks.

 

[Ari Gold]

I notice that if I had other browsers installed I could edit them in to the
preview list as well. I really like that feature. I don't recall it being in
2000, or maybe I just never found it. Thanks again.

I love just browsing the various questions from time to time and learning
new things from you guys. I must be a geek. : )

 

[David Berry]

And the page needs to have a .asp (active server page) extension. It won't
work with .htm or .html pages.

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FYIL VBScript only runs in IE Browsers client-side. You would have to run
this server-side to avoid the error.

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Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
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a Service Pack or security update, please contact
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http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
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Eeek! Oh my that's horrible. I'll download some different browsers for
testing to one of our PC's nobody uses.

Thanks again.

 

[Ari Gold]

*Cringing w/embarrassment*
What does that mean?

I took the code out, not sure why it was there to begin with, but are you
saying just taking the code out and republishing that page is not enough?

Also, I have downloaded firefox and netscape browsers, are there any other
browsers widely used?

Thanks.

FYIL VBScript only runs in IE Browsers client-side. You would have to run this server-side to avoid
the error.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
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If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
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Eeek! Oh my that's horrible. I'll download some different browsers for
testing to one of our PC's nobody uses.

Thanks again.

 

[Paul S. Wolf]

*Cringing w/embarrassment*
What does that mean?

I took the code out, not sure why it was there to begin with, but are you
saying just taking the code out and republishing that page is not enough?

Also, I have downloaded firefox and netscape browsers, are there any other
browsers widely used?

Thanks.

Opera - also free.

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

It depends on what VBScript code is actually on the page and what it does.

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*Cringing w/embarrassment*
What does that mean?

I took the code out, not sure why it was there to begin with, but are you
saying just taking the code out and republishing that page is not enough?

Also, I have downloaded firefox and netscape browsers, are there any other
browsers widely used?

Thanks.

FYIL VBScript only runs in IE Browsers client-side. You would have to run this server-side to
avoid
the error.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
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