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DavidF

One of my personal goals here in this newsgroup is to offer "constructive"
feedback and help. It takes a lot of courage to provide a link to a new
website and ask for feedback, and I admire and respect that. With that goal
in mind, I gotta say your site is pretty bad...but can be fixed.

You need to remove the background image behind the text:
http://www.plicorp.name/index_files/image4401.jpg
It makes it impossible to read the text, and after all it is the text that
is the most important part of your site. Content is king, as they say.

I have not seen anyone use semi-transparent text boxes before in a Pub web.
I kind of like the effect, but it is a print format that does not translate
to html well. It seems to work ok in IE but in FireFox all the text is
converted to images. A couple examples:
http://www.plicorp.name/index_files/image642.png
http://www.plicorp.name/index_files/image461.png
While you might live with this, it does mean that any hyperlinks in those
text boxes will not work in FF. Personally, I believe that you need to
design so your pages will work well in both IE and FF, especially since it
is a business site. If you don't have FF on your computer, I recommend that
you download and install it, so you can test your pages. It is a small
download and easy install, and you can test your html before you upload it.

Bottom line is that as "nice" as the semitransparency looks, you probably
shouldn't use it, at least in the body of the page...maybe OK in the banner.
The text in the body of your page does not show up in the code even in
IE...the search engines and webots will not be able to index you site.
Content is king...

Personally I would also get rid of the time and counter. I am sitting at my
computer...I know what time it is. The counter will not give you any good
information. Look to your host for webstats instead. Using a counter on a
page doesn't necessarily project the image I would assume you want.

Look, I am not an expert web designer, and my opinions are just that.
However, I think that many newbies and even some old pros fall into the trap
of adding "stuff" to their pages, and special effects just because they can.
And just because you can, doesn't mean you should. As you are using
Publisher, your pages should be simple anyway, so try to KISS, is my best
recommendation. The content is what is most important...not the bells and
whistles. Make your pages easy to read, easy to navigate, quick to load and
full of good content, and you will have a "good" site in my opinion.

Here are two links that might help in planning the design of your site:
http://webdesignfromscratch.com/
and no offense but:
http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/

I hope this is constructive. The good news is that you did stop and ask for
opinions before you built the whole site. Take a step back and reevaluate
what your goals are for your site, and what is the content. Then design
around those things. Good luck.

DavidF
 
J

John G

David,
You sure put some time into helping people and as usual everthing you said
about this site was spot on.

John G.
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

You forgot to mention; kill the bgsound ! Especially for a business site!




--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression





| One of my personal goals here in this newsgroup is to offer "constructive"
| feedback and help. It takes a lot of courage to provide a link to a new
| website and ask for feedback, and I admire and respect that. With that
goal
| in mind, I gotta say your site is pretty bad...but can be fixed.
|
| You need to remove the background image behind the text:
| http://www.plicorp.name/index_files/image4401.jpg
| It makes it impossible to read the text, and after all it is the text that
| is the most important part of your site. Content is king, as they say.
|
| I have not seen anyone use semi-transparent text boxes before in a Pub
web.
| I kind of like the effect, but it is a print format that does not
translate
| to html well. It seems to work ok in IE but in FireFox all the text is
| converted to images. A couple examples:
| http://www.plicorp.name/index_files/image642.png
| http://www.plicorp.name/index_files/image461.png
| While you might live with this, it does mean that any hyperlinks in those
| text boxes will not work in FF. Personally, I believe that you need to
| design so your pages will work well in both IE and FF, especially since it
| is a business site. If you don't have FF on your computer, I recommend
that
| you download and install it, so you can test your pages. It is a small
| download and easy install, and you can test your html before you upload
it.
|
| Bottom line is that as "nice" as the semitransparency looks, you probably
| shouldn't use it, at least in the body of the page...maybe OK in the
banner.
| The text in the body of your page does not show up in the code even in
| IE...the search engines and webots will not be able to index you site.
| Content is king...
|
| Personally I would also get rid of the time and counter. I am sitting at
my
| computer...I know what time it is. The counter will not give you any good
| information. Look to your host for webstats instead. Using a counter on a
| page doesn't necessarily project the image I would assume you want.
|
| Look, I am not an expert web designer, and my opinions are just that.
| However, I think that many newbies and even some old pros fall into the
trap
| of adding "stuff" to their pages, and special effects just because they
can.
| And just because you can, doesn't mean you should. As you are using
| Publisher, your pages should be simple anyway, so try to KISS, is my best
| recommendation. The content is what is most important...not the bells and
| whistles. Make your pages easy to read, easy to navigate, quick to load
and
| full of good content, and you will have a "good" site in my opinion.
|
| Here are two links that might help in planning the design of your site:
| http://webdesignfromscratch.com/
| and no offense but:
| http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/
|
| I hope this is constructive. The good news is that you did stop and ask
for
| opinions before you built the whole site. Take a step back and reevaluate
| what your goals are for your site, and what is the content. Then design
| around those things. Good luck.
|
| DavidF
|
| | >I have just posted 3 pages out of 15. I would like to hear your inputs
| >before I finish my work. Check out www.plicorp.name Thanks!
|
|
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

Kinda like going to Wells Fargo Bank and listening to the theme from Bonanza
or something....yah I'd put my money in there eh?

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression





| Oh my! I had my sound turned off. I agree...
|
| DavidF
|
| | > You forgot to mention; kill the bgsound ! Especially for a business
site!
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > --
| > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| > Rob Giordano
| > Microsoft MVP Expression
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | One of my personal goals here in this newsgroup is to offer
| > "constructive"
| > | feedback and help. It takes a lot of courage to provide a link to a
new
| > | website and ask for feedback, and I admire and respect that. With that
| > goal
| > | in mind, I gotta say your site is pretty bad...but can be fixed.
| > |
| > | You need to remove the background image behind the text:
| > | http://www.plicorp.name/index_files/image4401.jpg
| > | It makes it impossible to read the text, and after all it is the text
| > that
| > | is the most important part of your site. Content is king, as they say.
| > |
| > | I have not seen anyone use semi-transparent text boxes before in a Pub
| > web.
| > | I kind of like the effect, but it is a print format that does not
| > translate
| > | to html well. It seems to work ok in IE but in FireFox all the text is
| > | converted to images. A couple examples:
| > | http://www.plicorp.name/index_files/image642.png
| > | http://www.plicorp.name/index_files/image461.png
| > | While you might live with this, it does mean that any hyperlinks in
| > those
| > | text boxes will not work in FF. Personally, I believe that you need to
| > | design so your pages will work well in both IE and FF, especially
since
| > it
| > | is a business site. If you don't have FF on your computer, I recommend
| > that
| > | you download and install it, so you can test your pages. It is a small
| > | download and easy install, and you can test your html before you
upload
| > it.
| > |
| > | Bottom line is that as "nice" as the semitransparency looks, you
| > probably
| > | shouldn't use it, at least in the body of the page...maybe OK in the
| > banner.
| > | The text in the body of your page does not show up in the code even in
| > | IE...the search engines and webots will not be able to index you site.
| > | Content is king...
| > |
| > | Personally I would also get rid of the time and counter. I am sitting
at
| > my
| > | computer...I know what time it is. The counter will not give you any
| > good
| > | information. Look to your host for webstats instead. Using a counter
on
| > a
| > | page doesn't necessarily project the image I would assume you want.
| > |
| > | Look, I am not an expert web designer, and my opinions are just that.
| > | However, I think that many newbies and even some old pros fall into
the
| > trap
| > | of adding "stuff" to their pages, and special effects just because
they
| > can.
| > | And just because you can, doesn't mean you should. As you are using
| > | Publisher, your pages should be simple anyway, so try to KISS, is my
| > best
| > | recommendation. The content is what is most important...not the bells
| > and
| > | whistles. Make your pages easy to read, easy to navigate, quick to
load
| > and
| > | full of good content, and you will have a "good" site in my opinion.
| > |
| > | Here are two links that might help in planning the design of your
site:
| > | http://webdesignfromscratch.com/
| > | and no offense but:
| > | http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/
| > |
| > | I hope this is constructive. The good news is that you did stop and
ask
| > for
| > | opinions before you built the whole site. Take a step back and
| > reevaluate
| > | what your goals are for your site, and what is the content. Then
design
| > | around those things. Good luck.
| > |
| > | DavidF
| > |
| > | | > | >I have just posted 3 pages out of 15. I would like to hear your
inputs
| > | >before I finish my work. Check out www.plicorp.name Thanks!
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
A

Administrator

I appreciate your comment Sir but we're more into the lending aspect of the
business rather than attract investors.
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

I don't think music will help you, not even one tiny bit...unless you were
selling music.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression





|I appreciate your comment Sir but we're more into the lending aspect of the
| business rather than attract investors.
|
| | > Kinda like going to Wells Fargo Bank and listening to the theme from
| > Bonanza
| > or something....yah I'd put my money in there eh?
| >
| > --
| > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| > Rob Giordano
| > Microsoft MVP Expression
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | Oh my! I had my sound turned off. I agree...
| > |
| > | DavidF
| > |
| > message
| > | | > | > You forgot to mention; kill the bgsound ! Especially for a business
| > site!
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| > | > Rob Giordano
| > | > Microsoft MVP Expression
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | > | > | One of my personal goals here in this newsgroup is to offer
| > | > "constructive"
| > | > | feedback and help. It takes a lot of courage to provide a link to
a
| > new
| > | > | website and ask for feedback, and I admire and respect that. With
| > that
| > | > goal
| > | > | in mind, I gotta say your site is pretty bad...but can be fixed.
| > | > |
| > | > | You need to remove the background image behind the text:
| > | > | http://www.plicorp.name/index_files/image4401.jpg
| > | > | It makes it impossible to read the text, and after all it is the
| > text
| > | > that
| > | > | is the most important part of your site. Content is king, as they
| > say.
| > | > |
| > | > | I have not seen anyone use semi-transparent text boxes before in a
| > Pub
| > | > web.
| > | > | I kind of like the effect, but it is a print format that does not
| > | > translate
| > | > | to html well. It seems to work ok in IE but in FireFox all the
text
| > is
| > | > | converted to images. A couple examples:
| > | > | http://www.plicorp.name/index_files/image642.png
| > | > | http://www.plicorp.name/index_files/image461.png
| > | > | While you might live with this, it does mean that any hyperlinks
in
| > | > those
| > | > | text boxes will not work in FF. Personally, I believe that you
need
| > to
| > | > | design so your pages will work well in both IE and FF, especially
| > since
| > | > it
| > | > | is a business site. If you don't have FF on your computer, I
| > recommend
| > | > that
| > | > | you download and install it, so you can test your pages. It is a
| > small
| > | > | download and easy install, and you can test your html before you
| > upload
| > | > it.
| > | > |
| > | > | Bottom line is that as "nice" as the semitransparency looks, you
| > | > probably
| > | > | shouldn't use it, at least in the body of the page...maybe OK in
the
| > | > banner.
| > | > | The text in the body of your page does not show up in the code
even
| > in
| > | > | IE...the search engines and webots will not be able to index you
| > site.
| > | > | Content is king...
| > | > |
| > | > | Personally I would also get rid of the time and counter. I am
| > sitting
| > at
| > | > my
| > | > | computer...I know what time it is. The counter will not give you
any
| > | > good
| > | > | information. Look to your host for webstats instead. Using a
counter
| > on
| > | > a
| > | > | page doesn't necessarily project the image I would assume you
want.
| > | > |
| > | > | Look, I am not an expert web designer, and my opinions are just
| > that.
| > | > | However, I think that many newbies and even some old pros fall
into
| > the
| > | > trap
| > | > | of adding "stuff" to their pages, and special effects just because
| > they
| > | > can.
| > | > | And just because you can, doesn't mean you should. As you are
using
| > | > | Publisher, your pages should be simple anyway, so try to KISS, is
my
| > | > best
| > | > | recommendation. The content is what is most important...not the
| > bells
| > | > and
| > | > | whistles. Make your pages easy to read, easy to navigate, quick to
| > load
| > | > and
| > | > | full of good content, and you will have a "good" site in my
opinion.
| > | > |
| > | > | Here are two links that might help in planning the design of your
| > site:
| > | > | http://webdesignfromscratch.com/
| > | > | and no offense but:
| > | > | http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/
| > | > |
| > | > | I hope this is constructive. The good news is that you did stop
and
| > ask
| > | > for
| > | > | opinions before you built the whole site. Take a step back and
| > | > reevaluate
| > | > | what your goals are for your site, and what is the content. Then
| > design
| > | > | around those things. Good luck.
| > | > |
| > | > | DavidF
| > | > |
| > | > | | > | > | >I have just posted 3 pages out of 15. I would like to hear your
| > inputs
| > | > | >before I finish my work. Check out www.plicorp.name Thanks!
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
 
D

DavidF

I think maybe you missed the point. How many "business" websites have
background music? How many "professional" websites have background music?
How many of your competitor's websites have background music? What image
does the music project about your company?

Background music can be an important element of some websites, but in your
case it will probably alienate and drive away more people than it will
attract.

I would again encourage you to spend some time reading and studying some of
the material at the links I gave you about web design. Google the subject. I
would also suggest that you look at and study your competitor's sites...what
are they doing? Which of their sites comes off the most "professional" to
you and why?

Good luck.

DavidF
 
A

Administrator

Just give us a week or two, we are currently discussing all the points you
have made. We are also evaluating some feedbacks we got from clients.
Thanks, like I said all your comments are valued and appreciated.
 
A

Administrator

Just give us a week or two, we are currently discussing all the points you
have made (especially yours Sir David). We are also evaluating some
feedbacks we got from clients. Thanks, like I said all your comments are
valued and appreciated.
 
M

MarySpada

I am a potential new user for Project Professinal software. My business team
is doing basic metrics on Excel but is not truly specific. The management is
desiring to see each project tracked for things like: one time, delays and
why, hitting target dates. Basically my thought was to take existing past
projects and input their information from begining to end to show the
participants the available tracking reports, ect. I think for measuring past
performances it could be used first than once everyone is on board for the
software start using it for all new projects.

I am new to this specific software but wonder if from your experience is
this a viable or beneficial track to head on?

Thanks,
Mary
 
D

DavidF

I am afraid you posted in the wrong group. This is for Publisher webdesign.
I am not sure, but you might try microsoft.public.project.

DavidF
 

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