Weird font change when I double-click on a word

[Nicholasgross]

Version: v.X
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger)

G'day guys,

This bug is really annoying. As far as I can tell, this seems to happen when a document is set-up in Arial. I double click on a word set in Arial and the font changes into Times New Roman.

Something weirder happened today: first I set a paragraph in Didot via the formatting palette then I double-clicked on something else set in Arial and it changed the font of that word into Didot.

Does anyone have any idea why this would be happening? I'm thinking Arial is somehow corrupted. I have been through the style menus and the preferences etc, I can't figure this out

cheers

 

[John McGhie]

Wow! That's a bug from way back in the past.

I suspect that Arial is not in fact "corrupted", but you have a Unicode
version of Arial on your system.

That's good: it means you have the larger new Arial with more characters in
it.

However, Word X doesn't like Unicode. It was never coded to handle it
properly. So it gives these peculiar problems. Internally, Word X works in
Unicode, but it is expecting the Mac International character set
'externally" and the conversion doesn't work properly.

In this case, if you have the word either side in the same font as the word
you select, all will be well.

If you can find a cheap version of Word 2004 in the remainder bin at your
local computer shop, now would be a great time to go up a version.

Alternatively, struggle along for another year and go directly to Word 2010
when it comes out. Skip 2008, it's no good.

Cheers

Version: v.X
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger)

G'day guys,

This bug is really annoying. As far as I can tell, this seems to happen when a
document is set-up in Arial. I double click on a word set in Arial and the
font changes into Times New Roman.

Something weirder happened today: first I set a paragraph in Didot via the
formatting palette then I double-clicked on something else set in Arial and it
changed the font of that word into Didot.

Does anyone have any idea why this would be happening? I'm thinking Arial is
somehow corrupted. I have been through the style menus and the preferences
etc, I can't figure this out

cheers

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[Nicholasgross]

Thanks a lot John,

This sounds like a plausible explanation and thanks for the tip on 2008. Is there a quick way of finding out which version of Arial I'm using?

Also, you said:

<cite> In this case, if you have the word either side in the same font as the word
you select, all will be well. </cite>

but this seems to happen even when I'm selecting a word set in a whole paragraph of the same Arial. Am I misunderstanding you?
thanks for your help

Nick

 

[Nicholasgross]

OK so <cite> doesn't work! Apologies.

 

[John McGhie]

Hi Nick:

If it is the bug I am thinking about, it causes the text to revert to the
font of the underlying paragraph style.

So if you set the style into Arial, then it will stay there. Direct
formatting is never stable in Word, and I suspect that you just discovered
yet another instance of that.

There are a zillion versions of Arial out there, from Apple, Microsoft, and
the inventors at Monotype The dump below is the latest version from
Office 2008...

If you do a "Get Info" in FontBook, you should see something like this:

PostScript name Arial-BoldMT
Full name Arial Bold
Family Arial
Style Bold
Kind TrueType
Language English, French, German, Spanish, Italian, Dutch, Swedish,
Norwegian Bokmål, Danish, Finnish, Portuguese, Arabic
Version Version 3.05
Location /Library/Fonts/Microsoft/Arial
Unique name Monotype:Arial Bold:Version 3.05 (Microsoft)
Manufacturer Monotype Typography
Designer Monotype Type Drawing Office - Robin Nicholas, Patricia
Saunders 1982
Copyright Typeface © The Monotype Corporation plc. Data © The
Monotype Corporation plc/Type Solutions Inc. 1990-1992. All Rights Reserved
Trademark Arial® Trademark of The Monotype Corporation plc registered
in the US Pat & TM Off. and elsewhere.
Description Contemporary sans serif design, Arial contains more
humanist characteristics than many of its predecessors and as such is more
in tune with the mood of the last decades of the twentieth century. The
overall treatment of curves is softer and fuller than in most industrial
style sans serif faces. Terminal strokes are cut on the diagonal which
helps to give the face a less mechanical appearance. Arial is an extremely
versatile family of typefaces which can be used with equal success for text
setting in reports, presentations, magazines etc, and for display use in
newspapers, advertising and promotions.
License NOTIFICATION OF LICENSE AGREEMENT

Thanks a lot John,

This sounds like a plausible explanation and thanks for the tip on 2008. Is
there a quick way of finding out which version of Arial I'm using?

Also, you said:

<cite> In this case, if you have the word either side in the same font as the
word
you select, all will be well. </cite>

but this seems to happen even when I'm selecting a word set in a whole
paragraph of the same Arial. Am I misunderstanding you?
thanks for your help

Nick

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