what do you use a doughnut chart for

J

Jon Peltier

They are good to dunk in your coffee for breakfast.

Actually what they do is allow you to make a pie-type display, with multiple
series, so each concentric ring shows the variation in the amounts of the
categories being displayed.

However, pie charts are not particularly good at getting information into
people's heads. People aren't very good at comparing the angles, especially
if there are more than about four wedges in the pie. Because of this pie
charts should be avoided.

Donut charts are even worse, the rings have a bias due to having different
diameters and different surface areas. People's judgment of areas can be
even worse than that of angles, and the combination makes donuts something
to be avoided at all costs.

- Jon
 
G

Gaj Vidmar

"Just for the record", there is one apparently statistically sound use of
Excel's doughnuts -- see the article

Bordley, R.F., Representing trees using microsoft doughnut charts, The
American Statistician, 2002, vol. 56, no. 2, p. 139-147.

I just regret that the figures are rather sloppily drawn and that the macro
supposedly available for public download is nowhere to be found. (Anyone out
there able to provide it? I'd be really grateful.)

[Digression: As someone daily dealing with publishing in more or less "top"
scientific journala, I cannot help myself being left with a somewhat bitter
taste in the sense that it might very well have to do with the author being
a General Motors executive in addition to affiliated to two US universities,
while -- trust me from first-hand and second-hand experiance -- even such
generally trustworthy and impecaple journal as TAS exercises a whole lot
more severe technical and also content standards in other cases. But don't
get me wrong -- the article is OK and I like and support the idea.]

As for "getting information into people's heads", "people's judgment" and
the like, I would just like to add a note of caution as a semi-qualified
psychologist of perception (BSc & MSc) and statistician (PhD submitted). --
Sure, promoting Tufte's (which I fully and publicly and regularly do) and
Cleveland's teachings (erm, khm, problems with psychometric findings
commencing, though from the purely statistical point of view he undoubtedly
is another hero of data visualisation) is fine, but one should be aware of
the "human tendency" (I know, now I, a notorious Pompous European
Intellectual, am generalising and writing simplistic and <American> stuff)
towards the "pendulum paradigm" of swinging from one extreme to the oposite
before finding the balance ...

In short, as with just about anything, there's much more to pies. And if you
(I) need a true hero from this (my) field, it should be Leland Wilkinson and
his Grammar of Graphics. (Just for the record, he wrote about <pies> earlier
and it's even accessible from his website, but since there is a zillion of
other and wider issues to study here, the proverbial interested reader
should just start with the book).

Cordial regards,

Gaj Vidmar
Univ. of Ljubljana, Fac. of Medicine, Inst. of Biomedical Informatics
http://www.mf.uni-lj.si/ibmi-english [/biostat-center]
[-> Research] & [-> Software [-> Excel]]
 
J

Jon Peltier

A concentric donut chart might be even worse, though either way the dot plot
approach is far superior.

- Jon
 
Q

QuietRanger

Thanks everyone your post have helped me out greatly and I am glad that you
all were able to anser my silly little question. My class was talking about
this and we were unable to figure out the what, when and how of the doughnut
chart. with your help we are now on our way to being able to present our
Prof. with much better information. I think that I may set the presentation
up using the doughnut chart just for shits and grins. That you all again your
help, my classmates and I are in your debt.
 

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