What is up with the imagexxx1.jpg files

[Kristoffer Gjevre]

I had a chance to try out Publisher 2003 at work to see if it alow me to do the following:
1. Create a page with pictures and text for my photo album and print it. I insert the original digital pictures (~700KB), and the output looks great on my HP G55 printer.
2. Generate a web page from this pub file with a smaller size (~20KB) jpeg image files (no VML or PNG as riends/family does not have the latest IE). This is what has me confused. Publisher generates a htm file that refers to an image file (imagexxx.jpg) that is basicaly the same as the original jpeg file, but also generates a smaller size file (imagexxx1.jpg) that is referenced in the html (not sure why - only glanced at the html). If I delete the imagexxx.jpg file and copy the imagexxx1.jpg to the filename imagexxx.jpg I get what I want, except I have to do several del/copy for each page, and end up with 2 copies of each picture (so I guess I need to edit the html as well).

So, what is up with this and can what I want to do be done automatically (I search all over for some option as well as searched the help file and the web, but did not find anything about this)?

Thanks,
Kristoffer Gjevre

 

[°°°MS°Publisher°°°]

1) Well tell them to upgrade to IE 6.0. It is after all free and also
updates many of the mission critical operating system files.

2) Well what you are seeing is the way Publisher works. I hope I have
understood your perceived issue, as your description is a tad gobbledegook.
I did read it fully at least three times, and still not a whole lot wiser to
what you are getting at.

If you want a program that is going to do what you want there are plenty of
freeware ones, like this:
http://home.no.net/wingrab/

It will use your original file name and original size and change nothing.

--

 

[David Bartosik - MS MVP]

2. Generate a web page from this pub file with a smaller size (~20KB) jpeg
image files (no VML or PNG as riends/family does not have the latest IE).
This is what has me confused. Publisher generates a htm file that refers to
an image file (imagexxx.jpg) that is basicaly the same as the original jpeg
file, but also generates a smaller size file (imagexxx1.jpg) that is
referenced in the html (not sure why - only glanced at the html). If I
delete the imagexxx.jpg file and copy the imagexxx1.jpg to the filename
imagexxx.jpg I get what I want, except I have to do several del/copy for
each page, and end up with 2 copies of each picture (so I guess I need to
edit the html as well).
Look a look at my article on 2003 at
http://www.davidbartosik.com/pub11.htm

and I do provide an example complete with file listing.
This is the way 2003 works, it creates a few copies of each image, and may
still create a png even with the option off. It writes code in your web page
that is designed to id the browser and based on the browser ability use the
best copy of the image that the browser will support. The logic being that
you get a better looking page if the browser is newer. However it also
results in the code bloat that makes the page file sizes large.

 

[Kristoffer Gjevre]

1) Well tell them to upgrade to IE 6.0. It is after all free and also
updates many of the mission critical operating system files.
<<
Not always an option as they are computer illiterate and spread all over the world...
2) Well what you are seeing is the way Publisher works. I hope I have
understood your perceived issue, as your description is a tad gobbledegook.
I did read it fully at least three times, and still not a whole lot wiser to
what you are getting at.
<<
What I am getting at is I want to be able to create a page with Publisher
(or some other program) containing high quality pictures (~0.5 to 1MB
image file size) and text to print to the standard "letter" format for my photo album, and then
"magically" click a button and have a similar looking web page to upload
to my home page with small size image files (~20 to 50KB).
If you want a program that is going to do what you want there are plenty of
freeware ones, like this:
http://home.no.net/wingrab/
<<
I looked at this program and as far as I can tell it does not do what I want.
It will use your original file name and original size and change nothing.
<<
And that is NOT what I want.

Maybe you should read my post a 4rt time...

Thanks anyway,
-kg

 

[Kristoffer Gjevre]

Look a look at my article on 2003 at
http://www.davidbartosik.com/pub11.htm
<<
I did before my original post.
and I do provide an example complete with file listing.
This is the way 2003 works, it creates a few copies of each image, and may
still create a png even with the option off. It writes code in your web page
that is designed to id the browser and based on the browser ability use the
best copy of the image that the browser will support. The logic being that
you get a better looking page if the browser is newer. However it also
results in the code bloat that makes the page file sizes large.
<<
This is just too bad and I am really surprised and disappointed.
It just seems to me that when one creates a publication for printing, one
would want to use the highest possible (within reason) image quality (i.e.
such as a good digital picture), and then when one wants to create a web
page from this one would want to use an image sized to the actual size used
on the page and compress it some more with some loss as compared to the
original (not everyone of my friends and family all over the world has
broadband).
What Publisher does is use the original picture for the web page, and that
does not make sense to me...especially when it did create the resized and
more compressed image file...

Anyone know of a program that does what I want?

I played some more with it, and found that I can probably use Pub2003, but
it takes some hacking after generating the web page.

1. Create the publication and print it for my photo album.
2. Do a File->Save As->Web Page
3. Delete image[odd-number].jpg (in this mode it creates imagexx1.jpg, same
as the original image file, and imagexx2.jpg, the resized and more compressed
image file).
4. Edit the htm file to replace all references to the image[odd-number].jpg
with image[next-higher-even-number].jpg
5. Upload to homepage.

-kg

 

[David Bartosik - MS MVP]

Get Publisher 2002 or 2000.

--
David Bartosik - Microsoft MVP
Visit www.davidbartosik.com
for Publisher and Web Design
Tips and How-to's.

Look a look at my article on 2003 at
http://www.davidbartosik.com/pub11.htm
<<
I did before my original post.
and I do provide an example complete with file listing.
This is the way 2003 works, it creates a few copies of each image, and may
still create a png even with the option off. It writes code in your web page
that is designed to id the browser and based on the browser ability use the
best copy of the image that the browser will support. The logic being that
you get a better looking page if the browser is newer. However it also
results in the code bloat that makes the page file sizes large.
<<
This is just too bad and I am really surprised and disappointed.
It just seems to me that when one creates a publication for printing, one
would want to use the highest possible (within reason) image quality (i.e.
such as a good digital picture), and then when one wants to create a web
page from this one would want to use an image sized to the actual size used
on the page and compress it some more with some loss as compared to the
original (not everyone of my friends and family all over the world has
broadband).
What Publisher does is use the original picture for the web page, and that
does not make sense to me...especially when it did create the resized and
more compressed image file...

Anyone know of a program that does what I want?

I played some more with it, and found that I can probably use Pub2003, but
it takes some hacking after generating the web page.

1. Create the publication and print it for my photo album.
2. Do a File->Save As->Web Page
3. Delete image[odd-number].jpg (in this mode it creates imagexx1.jpg, same
as the original image file, and imagexx2.jpg, the resized and more compressed
image file).
4. Edit the htm file to replace all references to the image[odd-number].jpg
with image[next-higher-even-number].jpg
5. Upload to homepage.

-kg

 

[Kristoffer Gjevre]

Get Publisher 2002 or 2000.
<<
From my testing quite a while back I found that Publisher 2000 works fine until one overlap pictures, then it turns the whole page into a crappy looking gif, so I gave up on it.
Does Publisher 2002 fix this problem (I do not have access to try Publisher 2002)?

BTW, Publisher 2003 has no problem handling overlaping images, which probably has to do with what IE version it is generating code for.

Thanks,
Kristoffer Gjevre

 

[Kristoffer Gjevre]

Got my hands on a Publisher 2002, installed SP1 (and SP2 too), and tried the Export As Web Page (Web Page, Filtered), and it does exactly what I want, handels overlapping pictures and generates appropriately sized and compressed image files (~30K) from the origianl digital camera images I use in the PUB file.

Great!

-kg