When are the converters to allow reading and writing to new formatcoming out?

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Phillip Jones, CET

Now that the new Office2007 is out; where are those Converters that we
are supposed to have for Mac Office2004 to allow reading and writing
using the new system. Office2007 has been out at least a month, or more.

And, Vista out a week or two. They should have been ready as soon as the
new system was out or even before.
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John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]

Hi Phillip:

Give them a break!! By "file format converters" you are actually talking
about "an application about half the size of Word".

To make one, you have to cut Office 2007 in half, and Office 2004 in half,
and then stick the top half of Office 2007 onto the bottom half of Office
2004.

This is a coding activity of fairly serious proportions: it may take them
longer than a week to finish it :)

Cheers


Now that the new Office2007 is out; where are those Converters that we
are supposed to have for Mac Office2004 to allow reading and writing
using the new system. Office2007 has been out at least a month, or more.

And, Vista out a week or two. They should have been ready as soon as the
new system was out or even before.

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me unless I ask you to.

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Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant
Technical Writer.
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410
 
C

CyberTaz

....And they have to wait 'til the ink's dry on the 2007 half just to be sure
no further changes take place so they can better determine how to weave it
to the 2003 half.

Just out of curiosity, how many 2007 docx's have you accumulated that are in
dire need of the converter?

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
 
E

Elliott Roper

CyberTaz said:
...And they have to wait 'til the ink's dry on the 2007 half just to be sure
no further changes take place so they can better determine how to weave it
to the 2003 half.

I spotted a shareware on versiontracker yesterday.

It has the completely descriptive name of docXConverter.

It seems to turn .docx into RTF. Which might be useful while you wait
for the real thing to come along.
 
P

Peter Jamieson

I would guess that the Microsoft compatibility pack converters have to go
via RTF format anyway because that's how Word communicates with external
text converters. (There's provision for using HTML in the converter SDK but
I don't think it is currently used by any of the external converters). As
far as Windows Word is concerned, all docXConverter really has to do is
implement the necessary converter APIs, build as a Win32 .dll and Hey
Presto! it's a "proper" Word converter. Maybe it already does that. On Mac,
I don't know what is now required to produce a 3rd party external text
converter that plugs into Word in a similar way to a Windows Word text
converter, and I don't even know if it can be done.

Peter Jamieson
 
D

Darlene

Now that the new Office2007 is out; where are those Converters that we
are supposed to have for Mac Office2004 to allow reading and writing
using the new system. Office2007 has been out at least a month, or more.

And, Vista out a week or two. They should have been ready as soon as the
new system was out or even before.
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If you would like to open Word 2007 documents on your Mac, there is a
work around until the converters come out.
When saving documents in Word 2007 save them as older format.
 
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Elliott Roper

On Mac, I don't know what is now required to produce a 3rd party
external text converter that plugs into Word in a similar way to a
Windows Word text converter, and I don't even know if it can be done.

That docXConverter of which I wrote *is* a Mac thing. Stand-alone
AFAICS.
 
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Peter Jamieson

That docXConverter of which I wrote *is* a Mac thing. Stand-alone

Then I guess they've explored the options for a "full" 3rd party Mac Word
text converter. The converter SDK is pretty old (unless it's been updated
recently). The sample code and makefiles have stuff for "MACPPC" which may
well only be relevant to Mac Classic or require libraries that are no longer
available. Even if it's still feasible to make a converter for MAC OS X it
may simply not be worth the hassle.

Peter Jamieson
 
P

Phillip Jones

Okay sound like we have at least another 2-3 month wait. <sigh> :-(

Daiya said:

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Phillip Jones

None "as of yet"

However -- I am webmaster for our Association's website.
I own the only lonely Mac. All the rest of my colleagues you that
platform from the dark side. And usually update 2 minutes after they hit
store shelves. So that puts me in a big bind. I just hate getting the
tail end of the chicken all the time. :-(
...And they have to wait 'til the ink's dry on the 2007 half just to be sure
no further changes take place so they can better determine how to weave it
to the 2003 half.

Just out of curiosity, how many 2007 docx's have you accumulated that are in
dire need of the converter?

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

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