who on earth has only one (1) notebook?

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RDBerge

OneNote has potential. Unfortunately the programmers who put this together
missed it by a light year. I don't know of anyone, let alone a professional
that has just one notebook.

When I first opened the program and saw sections and pages and subpages it
seemed only logical that, since I create the same notebook over and over with
the same sections and pages to put together a template.

SURPRISE! OneNote doesn't work that way. The Sections are actually the file
and you can but numerous pages in them. But, for some stupid reason
sub-pages have to have the same name as the main page. Talk about stupid!

Next surprise is the pages themselves. Instead of being able to import a
form from Word and use checkboxes I have to recreate it as a piece of
stationery. I've yet to find the tools to create a form. However
considering the major pain this is turning into I'm not sure it's even
worthwhile.

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RDBerge

Thanks for the tip Ben, but watching the demo it appears the same problem is
present. The inability to create more than one notebook. Develop a template
notebook with several sections and form pages that can be opened like a
template in Word.

It's all fine and dandy to have a sharepoint system and create a "group
notebook". But that isn't going to help what I do.

I'll download the product, but I have serious reservations the "beta"
version is going to be any better than the 2003 version.
 
P

Patrick Schmid [MVP]

R

RDBerge

Thank you Patrick, I've reviewed the test drive and see I can create multiple
notebooks. At I said to Ben, I'll download the 2007 version and see what I
can do with it. However, while there are many interesting features I do not
see that I can take a template created in Word and import and use it in
OneNote.

I want this to work. I have multiple notebooks I'd love to digitize.
Currently I look more like a back mule selping through the urban landscape
when a notebook computer holding my data would be much easier to carry around.

Patrick Schmid said:
Apparently the demo doesn't do a good job in explaining 2007. 2007
allows you to have multiple notebooks. I for example have 9 different
notebooks.

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Thanks for the tip Ben, but watching the demo it appears the same problem is
present. The inability to create more than one notebook. Develop a template
notebook with several sections and form pages that can be opened like a
template in Word.

It's all fine and dandy to have a sharepoint system and create a "group
notebook". But that isn't going to help what I do.

I'll download the product, but I have serious reservations the "beta"
version is going to be any better than the 2003 version.
 
P

Patrick Schmid [MVP]

There is no way to use templates from Word. You'll have to make your own
templates in OneNote.

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Thank you Patrick, I've reviewed the test drive and see I can create multiple
notebooks. At I said to Ben, I'll download the 2007 version and see what I
can do with it. However, while there are many interesting features I do not
see that I can take a template created in Word and import and use it in
OneNote.

I want this to work. I have multiple notebooks I'd love to digitize.
Currently I look more like a back mule selping through the urban landscape
when a notebook computer holding my data would be much easier to carry around.

Patrick Schmid said:
Apparently the demo doesn't do a good job in explaining 2007. 2007
allows you to have multiple notebooks. I for example have 9 different
notebooks.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
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Thanks for the tip Ben, but watching the demo it appears the same problem is
present. The inability to create more than one notebook. Develop a template
notebook with several sections and form pages that can be opened like a
template in Word.

It's all fine and dandy to have a sharepoint system and create a "group
notebook". But that isn't going to help what I do.

I'll download the product, but I have serious reservations the "beta"
version is going to be any better than the 2003 version.

:

Aloha RDBerge,

I'm going to take a guess that you're using OneNote 2003 and haven't seen
OneNote 2007 yet.

http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/programs/onenote/highlights.mspx

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr - MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm

OneNote has potential. Unfortunately the programmers who put this
together missed it by a light year. I don't know of anyone, let alone
a professional that has just one notebook.

When I first opened the program and saw sections and pages and
subpages it seemed only logical that, since I create the same notebook
over and over with the same sections and pages to put together a
template.

SURPRISE! OneNote doesn't work that way. The Sections are actually
the file and you can but numerous pages in them. But, for some stupid
reason sub-pages have to have the same name as the main page. Talk
about stupid!

Next surprise is the pages themselves. Instead of being able to
import a form from Word and use checkboxes I have to recreate it as a
piece of stationery. I've yet to find the tools to create a form.
However considering the major pain this is turning into I'm not sure
it's even worthwhile.

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Rainald Taesler

Thanks for the tip Ben, but watching the demo it appears the same
problem is
present. The inability to create more than one notebook. Develop a
template
notebook with several sections and form pages that can be opened
like a
template in Word.

To have only *ONE* notebook (which indeed was not too good <!!>) was
only the case in OneNote 2003 (which was the first attempt to manage
all the tasks related to a productive way of (a) taking notes and (b)
adminstrate them.
In my usual scarcasm I could say that it was called *One*Note because
of only being able to use *One*notebook <gbg>.

In ON 2007 ( the difference seems to be something like the difference
between the hardly usable WinWord 1.0 and Word '95) one can have as
many notebooks as one likes. And one can open and close them just to
one's needs.
It's all fine and dandy to have a sharepoint system and create a
"group
notebook". But that isn't going to help what I do.

Totally different in ON 2007.
The new version has a fantastic new system of handling shared
notebooks and notebooks on different devices (desktop and notebook on
the road) with automatically synching all of the differences that
ocuured in between (in both directions).

One might compare the generation gap with that between Win 3.0 and Win
'95.
I'll download the product, but I have serious reservations the
"beta"
version is going to be any better than the 2003 version.

Don't behave like a man of small faith!
Donwload the 2007 Beta + the B2TR patch and play with it.
There's truly worlds between !!!

Rainald
 
R

Rainald Taesler

However, while there are many interesting features I do not
see that I can take a template created in Word and import and use it
in
OneNote.

This does not work. And it was promised nowhere.

Word and OneNote are two totally different beasts just like an circus
horse and an elephant ;-)

"Templates" in Word and in OneNote just share the *name* "template";
they have a totally different functionality - just as a template in
Access would be something seriously different from a template in
MindManager.

But: You can make up your own templates for OneNote (as many as you
like) and create new notebooks from them just to your needs.

Rainald
 
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RDBerge

I noticed that the Beta version will deactivate February 1, 2007. Will the
final build be ready then? Since the 2007 version is not recommended for
production and since Word can not be imported, I have my doubts this would be
a useful product. Additionally why won't a document linked to OneNote
automatically update when the linked document is updated?

It's ironic in one sense since I have several notebooks that would benefit
from being digitized and at the same time the only program I've found does
not have the functionality I need. I.E. taking a document created in Word
and importing it or updating information from a linked document.

So here I sit at 1:17am in the morning with my notebook computer debating
the pro and cons to the 2007 Beta Version of program. Downloading seems the
logical answer. Not so much because of what the product offers or the
possible benefits. Rather the curiousity factor. Comparing OneNote and Word
to Windows 3.0 and Windows 95 sounds more like a justification for what the
program lacks. Additionally asking people to send you their notes it equally
foolish.

A typical notebook for me not only would have sections, but sub-sections.
For instance when I started setting up the notebook in OneNote 2003 (before
realizing there could be only one) I had a series of sections at the top.
Then each section would have a page followed by a sub-page. Of course then I
learned the sub-page had to have the same title as the main page. Not smart.

It will be interesting to see what the 2007 Beta version will do.
 
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Patrick Schmid [MVP]

I noticed that the Beta version will deactivate February 1, 2007.
Will the
final build be ready then? Since the 2007 version is not recommended for
You need to download and install B2TR. With that, the expiration date is
March 31. The formal beta phase is ending this month, so I'd assume it
will be out before March 31.
production and since Word can not be imported, I have my doubts this would be
a useful product. Additionally why won't a document linked to OneNote
automatically update when the linked document is updated?
Not sure what you mean. Linked document is a rather ambiguous term.
So here I sit at 1:17am in the morning with my notebook computer debating
the pro and cons to the 2007 Beta Version of program. Downloading seems the
logical answer. Not so much because of what the product offers or the
possible benefits. Rather the curiousity factor. Comparing OneNote and Word
to Windows 3.0 and Windows 95 sounds more like a justification for what the
program lacks. Additionally asking people to send you their notes it equally
foolish.
Quite frankly, you have a lot of set opinions before even trying the
program. I suggest you give it a test run for a few weeks and then come
back.
A typical notebook for me not only would have sections, but sub-sections.
For instance when I started setting up the notebook in OneNote 2003 (before
realizing there could be only one) I had a series of sections at the top.
Then each section would have a page followed by a sub-page. Of course then I
learned the sub-page had to have the same title as the main page. Not smart.
Changed in 2007.

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Rainald Taesler

RDBerge <[email protected]> shared these words of
wisdom:

Thanks fro the reply. But I can not see what your lamenting is aiming
at :-( :-(
I noticed that the Beta version will deactivate February 1, 2007.
Will the final build be ready then?

For sure. ON2007 will ship with Office 2007 and the latter is
scheduled to be shipped to volume clients prior to December and the
retail versions will ship in the first quarter of 2007.
That the *full* usage (it will not be totally deactivated) of ON 2007
Beta will be ended in February reflects that by this time the new
version will be in the shops.
Since the 2007 version is not recommended for production

This more or less is a disclaimer. I have been heavily using the Beta
for several months now for "production". It's really stable now.
and since Word can not be imported,

For sure documents Word can be imported.
In several ways:
- Copy+Paste (keeping most of the formatting and leaving the results
editable in ON);
- printing into ON (producing a 1:1 image which is automatically
treated with OCR and indexed for the search with WDS [Windows Desktop
Search]);
- embedding a document (and icon in ON which will open the Word-file);
- linking the original Word doc.

It seems that you are mixing things. Word *Templates* (DOT-files)
which had been talking about so far cannot be used because they have
very special functionality for a wordprocessor.
I have my doubts this would be a useful product.

There's one-thousand-and one other things on top.
Just "doubting" without knowing what it's like is just like the blind
man discussing on colors ...
Additionally why won't a
document linked to OneNote automatically update when the linked
document is updated?

Seems you are mixing something again:
A *linked* document is *linked* which means that the *original*
document is opened. And that will always be in the latest version.
Different with *embedded* documents. Those stay in the state they had
when embedded.
It's ironic in one sense since I have several notebooks that would
benefit from being digitized and at the same time the only program
I've found does not have the functionality I need. I.E. taking a
document created in Word and importing it or updating information
from a linked document.

AFAICS the "OR"is the conceptual problem:
You can
(a) *import* documents into ON (static or editable)
OR
(b) *link* documents which may be changed/edited (outside of ON).
So here I sit at 1:17am in the morning with my notebook computer
debating the pro and cons to the 2007 Beta Version of program.

Sometimes it's better to just go to bed and think again in the morning
Downloading seems the logical answer. Not so much because of what
the product offers or the possible benefits. Rather the curiosity
factor.

Even if you'd throw it away later, the $ 1.50 for the download is not
much ;-)
Comparing OneNote and Word to Windows 3.0 and Windows 95
sounds more like a justification for what the program lacks.

Sorry, you misunderstood what I had wanted to say.
One cannot compare ON 2007 to Word 95 in as far as the state of
development is concerned.
I just used this image as a reference how big the difference is
between the first shot ON 2003 and the new version.
Additionally asking people to send you their notes it equally
foolish.

Why "foolish"?
Daniel Escapa - a leading member of the development team - asked for
"real" life samples in order to see what the users are doing with ON.
Only too understandable as ON is so versatile that no developer can
hardly imagine what the users are doing with it ;-)
A typical notebook for me not only would have sections, but
sub-sections.

"sub-sections" - what might that be ?
Again: A notebook can be divided with "Section Groups" (AFAICS
formerly called "Folders") as the first level and sections as the
second level .
For instance when I started setting up the notebook in
OneNote 2003 (before realizing there could be only one) I had a
series of sections at the top.

So you obviously missed the top level said:
Then each section would have a page
followed by a sub-page. Of course then I learned the sub-page had
to
have the same title as the main page. Not smart.

That's totally different in ON 2007. Each "subpage" is a normal page
with its own header and title.
It's just go a shorter tag and it can easily be moved on level up to
be a page.
No longer a strict relation to a "primary" page. And all pages can
easily be grouped and un-grouped.
It will be interesting to see what the 2007 Beta version will do.

'nuff said. Just try it out.

Rainald
 
R

RDBerge

I'm in the process of downloading it now for the Office and my notebook
computer. I've already thought of at least 100 different ways of using this.
Now to see if it can do what I want it to do.


Rainald Taesler said:
RDBerge <[email protected]> shared these words of
wisdom:

Thanks fro the reply. But I can not see what your lamenting is aiming
at :-( :-(
I noticed that the Beta version will deactivate February 1, 2007.
Will the final build be ready then?

For sure. ON2007 will ship with Office 2007 and the latter is
scheduled to be shipped to volume clients prior to December and the
retail versions will ship in the first quarter of 2007.
That the *full* usage (it will not be totally deactivated) of ON 2007
Beta will be ended in February reflects that by this time the new
version will be in the shops.
Since the 2007 version is not recommended for production

This more or less is a disclaimer. I have been heavily using the Beta
for several months now for "production". It's really stable now.
and since Word can not be imported,

For sure documents Word can be imported.
In several ways:
- Copy+Paste (keeping most of the formatting and leaving the results
editable in ON);
- printing into ON (producing a 1:1 image which is automatically
treated with OCR and indexed for the search with WDS [Windows Desktop
Search]);
- embedding a document (and icon in ON which will open the Word-file);
- linking the original Word doc.

It seems that you are mixing things. Word *Templates* (DOT-files)
which had been talking about so far cannot be used because they have
very special functionality for a wordprocessor.
I have my doubts this would be a useful product.

There's one-thousand-and one other things on top.
Just "doubting" without knowing what it's like is just like the blind
man discussing on colors ...
Additionally why won't a
document linked to OneNote automatically update when the linked
document is updated?

Seems you are mixing something again:
A *linked* document is *linked* which means that the *original*
document is opened. And that will always be in the latest version.
Different with *embedded* documents. Those stay in the state they had
when embedded.
It's ironic in one sense since I have several notebooks that would
benefit from being digitized and at the same time the only program
I've found does not have the functionality I need. I.E. taking a
document created in Word and importing it or updating information
from a linked document.

AFAICS the "OR"is the conceptual problem:
You can
(a) *import* documents into ON (static or editable)
OR
(b) *link* documents which may be changed/edited (outside of ON).
So here I sit at 1:17am in the morning with my notebook computer
debating the pro and cons to the 2007 Beta Version of program.

Sometimes it's better to just go to bed and think again in the morning
Downloading seems the logical answer. Not so much because of what
the product offers or the possible benefits. Rather the curiosity
factor.

Even if you'd throw it away later, the $ 1.50 for the download is not
much ;-)
Comparing OneNote and Word to Windows 3.0 and Windows 95
sounds more like a justification for what the program lacks.

Sorry, you misunderstood what I had wanted to say.
One cannot compare ON 2007 to Word 95 in as far as the state of
development is concerned.
I just used this image as a reference how big the difference is
between the first shot ON 2003 and the new version.
Additionally asking people to send you their notes it equally
foolish.

Why "foolish"?
Daniel Escapa - a leading member of the development team - asked for
"real" life samples in order to see what the users are doing with ON.
Only too understandable as ON is so versatile that no developer can
hardly imagine what the users are doing with it ;-)
A typical notebook for me not only would have sections, but
sub-sections.

"sub-sections" - what might that be ?
Again: A notebook can be divided with "Section Groups" (AFAICS
formerly called "Folders") as the first level and sections as the
second level .
For instance when I started setting up the notebook in
OneNote 2003 (before realizing there could be only one) I had a
series of sections at the top.

So you obviously missed the top level said:
Then each section would have a page
followed by a sub-page. Of course then I learned the sub-page had
to
have the same title as the main page. Not smart.

That's totally different in ON 2007. Each "subpage" is a normal page
with its own header and title.
It's just go a shorter tag and it can easily be moved on level up to
be a page.
No longer a strict relation to a "primary" page. And all pages can
easily be grouped and un-grouped.
It will be interesting to see what the 2007 Beta version will do.

'nuff said. Just try it out.

Rainald
 
R

RDBerge

Downloaded OneNote but so far I'm clueless to where I will find the B2TR.

Rainald Taesler said:
RDBerge <[email protected]> shared these words of
wisdom:

Thanks fro the reply. But I can not see what your lamenting is aiming
at :-( :-(
I noticed that the Beta version will deactivate February 1, 2007.
Will the final build be ready then?

For sure. ON2007 will ship with Office 2007 and the latter is
scheduled to be shipped to volume clients prior to December and the
retail versions will ship in the first quarter of 2007.
That the *full* usage (it will not be totally deactivated) of ON 2007
Beta will be ended in February reflects that by this time the new
version will be in the shops.
Since the 2007 version is not recommended for production

This more or less is a disclaimer. I have been heavily using the Beta
for several months now for "production". It's really stable now.
and since Word can not be imported,

For sure documents Word can be imported.
In several ways:
- Copy+Paste (keeping most of the formatting and leaving the results
editable in ON);
- printing into ON (producing a 1:1 image which is automatically
treated with OCR and indexed for the search with WDS [Windows Desktop
Search]);
- embedding a document (and icon in ON which will open the Word-file);
- linking the original Word doc.

It seems that you are mixing things. Word *Templates* (DOT-files)
which had been talking about so far cannot be used because they have
very special functionality for a wordprocessor.
I have my doubts this would be a useful product.

There's one-thousand-and one other things on top.
Just "doubting" without knowing what it's like is just like the blind
man discussing on colors ...
Additionally why won't a
document linked to OneNote automatically update when the linked
document is updated?

Seems you are mixing something again:
A *linked* document is *linked* which means that the *original*
document is opened. And that will always be in the latest version.
Different with *embedded* documents. Those stay in the state they had
when embedded.
It's ironic in one sense since I have several notebooks that would
benefit from being digitized and at the same time the only program
I've found does not have the functionality I need. I.E. taking a
document created in Word and importing it or updating information
from a linked document.

AFAICS the "OR"is the conceptual problem:
You can
(a) *import* documents into ON (static or editable)
OR
(b) *link* documents which may be changed/edited (outside of ON).
So here I sit at 1:17am in the morning with my notebook computer
debating the pro and cons to the 2007 Beta Version of program.

Sometimes it's better to just go to bed and think again in the morning
Downloading seems the logical answer. Not so much because of what
the product offers or the possible benefits. Rather the curiosity
factor.

Even if you'd throw it away later, the $ 1.50 for the download is not
much ;-)
Comparing OneNote and Word to Windows 3.0 and Windows 95
sounds more like a justification for what the program lacks.

Sorry, you misunderstood what I had wanted to say.
One cannot compare ON 2007 to Word 95 in as far as the state of
development is concerned.
I just used this image as a reference how big the difference is
between the first shot ON 2003 and the new version.
Additionally asking people to send you their notes it equally
foolish.

Why "foolish"?
Daniel Escapa - a leading member of the development team - asked for
"real" life samples in order to see what the users are doing with ON.
Only too understandable as ON is so versatile that no developer can
hardly imagine what the users are doing with it ;-)
A typical notebook for me not only would have sections, but
sub-sections.

"sub-sections" - what might that be ?
Again: A notebook can be divided with "Section Groups" (AFAICS
formerly called "Folders") as the first level and sections as the
second level .
For instance when I started setting up the notebook in
OneNote 2003 (before realizing there could be only one) I had a
series of sections at the top.

So you obviously missed the top level said:
Then each section would have a page
followed by a sub-page. Of course then I learned the sub-page had
to
have the same title as the main page. Not smart.

That's totally different in ON 2007. Each "subpage" is a normal page
with its own header and title.
It's just go a shorter tag and it can easily be moved on level up to
be a page.
No longer a strict relation to a "primary" page. And all pages can
easily be grouped and un-grouped.
It will be interesting to see what the 2007 Beta version will do.

'nuff said. Just try it out.

Rainald
 
D

Daniel Escapa [MS]

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...87-01cf-4bc3-821a-0bb10e7a59fa&DisplayLang=en



RDBerge said:
Downloaded OneNote but so far I'm clueless to where I will find the B2TR.

Rainald Taesler said:
RDBerge <[email protected]> shared these words of
wisdom:

Thanks fro the reply. But I can not see what your lamenting is aiming
at :-( :-(
I noticed that the Beta version will deactivate February 1, 2007.
Will the final build be ready then?

For sure. ON2007 will ship with Office 2007 and the latter is
scheduled to be shipped to volume clients prior to December and the
retail versions will ship in the first quarter of 2007.
That the *full* usage (it will not be totally deactivated) of ON 2007
Beta will be ended in February reflects that by this time the new
version will be in the shops.
Since the 2007 version is not recommended for production

This more or less is a disclaimer. I have been heavily using the Beta
for several months now for "production". It's really stable now.
and since Word can not be imported,

For sure documents Word can be imported.
In several ways:
- Copy+Paste (keeping most of the formatting and leaving the results
editable in ON);
- printing into ON (producing a 1:1 image which is automatically
treated with OCR and indexed for the search with WDS [Windows Desktop
Search]);
- embedding a document (and icon in ON which will open the Word-file);
- linking the original Word doc.

It seems that you are mixing things. Word *Templates* (DOT-files)
which had been talking about so far cannot be used because they have
very special functionality for a wordprocessor.
I have my doubts this would be a useful product.

There's one-thousand-and one other things on top.
Just "doubting" without knowing what it's like is just like the blind
man discussing on colors ...
Additionally why won't a
document linked to OneNote automatically update when the linked
document is updated?

Seems you are mixing something again:
A *linked* document is *linked* which means that the *original*
document is opened. And that will always be in the latest version.
Different with *embedded* documents. Those stay in the state they had
when embedded.
It's ironic in one sense since I have several notebooks that would
benefit from being digitized and at the same time the only program
I've found does not have the functionality I need. I.E. taking a
document created in Word and importing it or updating information
from a linked document.

AFAICS the "OR"is the conceptual problem:
You can
(a) *import* documents into ON (static or editable)
OR
(b) *link* documents which may be changed/edited (outside of ON).
So here I sit at 1:17am in the morning with my notebook computer
debating the pro and cons to the 2007 Beta Version of program.

Sometimes it's better to just go to bed and think again in the morning
Downloading seems the logical answer. Not so much because of what
the product offers or the possible benefits. Rather the curiosity
factor.

Even if you'd throw it away later, the $ 1.50 for the download is not
much ;-)
Comparing OneNote and Word to Windows 3.0 and Windows 95
sounds more like a justification for what the program lacks.

Sorry, you misunderstood what I had wanted to say.
One cannot compare ON 2007 to Word 95 in as far as the state of
development is concerned.
I just used this image as a reference how big the difference is
between the first shot ON 2003 and the new version.
Additionally asking people to send you their notes it equally
foolish.

Why "foolish"?
Daniel Escapa - a leading member of the development team - asked for
"real" life samples in order to see what the users are doing with ON.
Only too understandable as ON is so versatile that no developer can
hardly imagine what the users are doing with it ;-)
A typical notebook for me not only would have sections, but
sub-sections.

"sub-sections" - what might that be ?
Again: A notebook can be divided with "Section Groups" (AFAICS
formerly called "Folders") as the first level and sections as the
second level .
For instance when I started setting up the notebook in
OneNote 2003 (before realizing there could be only one) I had a
series of sections at the top.

So you obviously missed the top level said:
Then each section would have a page
followed by a sub-page. Of course then I learned the sub-page had
to
have the same title as the main page. Not smart.

That's totally different in ON 2007. Each "subpage" is a normal page
with its own header and title.
It's just go a shorter tag and it can easily be moved on level up to
be a page.
No longer a strict relation to a "primary" page. And all pages can
easily be grouped and un-grouped.
It will be interesting to see what the 2007 Beta version will do.

'nuff said. Just try it out.

Rainald
:

Newsbeitrag

Thanks for the tip Ben, but watching the demo it appears the same
problem is
present. The inability to create more than one notebook. Develop
a
template
notebook with several sections and form pages that can be opened
like a
template in Word.

To have only *ONE* notebook (which indeed was not too good <!!>)
was
only the case in OneNote 2003 (which was the first attempt to
manage
all the tasks related to a productive way of (a) taking notes and
(b)
adminstrate them.
In my usual scarcasm I could say that it was called *One*Note
because
of only being able to use *One*notebook <gbg>.

In ON 2007 ( the difference seems to be something like the
difference
between the hardly usable WinWord 1.0 and Word '95) one can have as
many notebooks as one likes. And one can open and close them just
to
one's needs.

It's all fine and dandy to have a sharepoint system and create a
"group
notebook". But that isn't going to help what I do.

Totally different in ON 2007.
The new version has a fantastic new system of handling shared
notebooks and notebooks on different devices (desktop and notebook
on
the road) with automatically synching all of the differences that
ocuured in between (in both directions).

One might compare the generation gap with that between Win 3.0 and
Win '95.

I'll download the product, but I have serious reservations the
"beta"
version is going to be any better than the 2003 version.

Don't behave like a man of small faith!
Donwload the 2007 Beta + the B2TR patch and play with it.
There's truly worlds between !!!

Rainald
 
R

Rainald Taesler

I'm in the process of downloading it now for the Office and my
notebook computer. I've already thought of at least 100 different
ways of using this. Now to see if it can do what I want it to do.

OK, fine.
When any questions come up, pls ask them (in separete therads, pls.).

Have fun!
Rainald
 

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