why do we use print preview modes?

[aia.abesamis]

i can't find the answer here.

 

[garfield-n-odie [MVP]]

Probably because you should do your own homework.

 

[Terry Farrell]

Clue: the answer is in the name.

 

[JoAnn Paules]

Maybe it's because no one else needed to ask that question. Do your own
homework.

 

[Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com]

Actually, that's a very good question. Print layout view in Word pretty
accurately shows me how a page will appear once printed, so about the only
time I use print preview in Word is to update fields. Before W2007, I used
normal view (& back) for that purpose. In Excel 2003 and before I used print
preview often, but now with Excel 2007's page layout view, I, again, rarely
use print preview. I've wondered why print preview is still a feature (since
at least W2002). Either it remains because too many users would squawk if
it were removed, or it does something the other views (including the reading
view) can't. Does anyone know?

Pam

 

[Stefan Blom]

If you display nonprinting marks the difference between Print Layout view
and Print Preview will be apparent.

 

[Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com]

They look exactly the same, pilcrows, centered dots for spaces, greyed fields,
and all -- except that there are no green squiggles in the print preview, but
they can turned off in print layout.

Pam

If you display nonprinting marks the difference between Print Layout view
and Print Preview will be apparent.

Actually, that's a very good question. Print layout view in Word pretty
accurately shows me how a page will appear once printed, so about the

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[Stefan Blom]

Which version of Word are you using? Using Windows versions only (Word 97,
2000, 2003, and now 2007), I have certainly never seen nonprinting marks in
Print Preview. (Well, one exception might be the shading applied to form
fields.)

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

They look exactly the same, pilcrows, centered dots for spaces, greyed
fields,
and all -- except that there are no green squiggles in the print preview,
but
they can turned off in print layout.

Pam

If you display nonprinting marks the difference between Print Layout view
and Print Preview will be apparent.

Actually, that's a very good question. Print layout view in Word pretty
accurately shows me how a page will appear once printed, so about the

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i can't find the answer here.

 

[JoAnn Paules]

If you're seeing them in Print Preview, they aren't non-printing.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"

They look exactly the same, pilcrows, centered dots for spaces, greyed
fields,
and all -- except that there are no green squiggles in the print preview,
but
they can turned off in print layout.

Pam

If you display nonprinting marks the difference between Print Layout view
and Print Preview will be apparent.

Actually, that's a very good question. Print layout view in Word pretty
accurately shows me how a page will appear once printed, so about the

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i can't find the answer here.

 

[Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com]

They show up on my print preview screen, but they do not print.

If you're seeing them in Print Preview, they aren't non-printing.

They look exactly the same, pilcrows, centered dots for spaces, greyed
fields,

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[Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com]

W2007. And I don't recall seeing them before today either. But I just
tried it in W2003 (different computer), and, after I added the standard
toolbar and clicked the pilcrow, there they are.

Pam

Which version of Word are you using? Using Windows versions only (Word 97,
2000, 2003, and now 2007), I have certainly never seen nonprinting marks in
Print Preview. (Well, one exception might be the shading applied to form
fields.)

They look exactly the same, pilcrows, centered dots for spaces, greyed
fields,

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[Terry Farrell]

If you have editing in Print Preview enabled, then the non-printing
characters will display. But note that viewing of the non-printing
characters are separate actions in Print Preview and Page Layout View. Just
because you have it toggled on in Page Layout View does not toggle them on
for Print Preview. It needs toggling separately for each view.

Terry Farrell

They show up on my print preview screen, but they do not print.

If you're seeing them in Print Preview, they aren't non-printing.

They look exactly the same, pilcrows, centered dots for spaces, greyed
fields,

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i can't find the answer here.

 

[JoAnn Paules]

Ah - I don't edit in Print Preview. I preview in Print Preview.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"

If you have editing in Print Preview enabled, then the non-printing
characters will display. But note that viewing of the non-printing
characters are separate actions in Print Preview and Page Layout View.
Just because you have it toggled on in Page Layout View does not toggle
them on for Print Preview. It needs toggling separately for each view.

Terry Farrell

They show up on my print preview screen, but they do not print.

If you're seeing them in Print Preview, they aren't non-printing.

They look exactly the same, pilcrows, centered dots for spaces, greyed
fields,
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i can't find the answer here.

 

[Terry Farrell]

I expect that is true for 99.9999999999999% of users. But you can edit
whilst using Print Preview, so you can toggle on the non-printing
characters. All a bit alien to the way I work though!

Terry

Ah - I don't edit in Print Preview. I preview in Print Preview.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"

If you have editing in Print Preview enabled, then the non-printing
characters will display. But note that viewing of the non-printing
characters are separate actions in Print Preview and Page Layout View.
Just because you have it toggled on in Page Layout View does not toggle
them on for Print Preview. It needs toggling separately for each view.

Terry Farrell

They show up on my print preview screen, but they do not print.


JoAnn Paules wrote:
If you're seeing them in Print Preview, they aren't non-printing.

They look exactly the same, pilcrows, centered dots for spaces, greyed
fields,
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i can't find the answer here.

 

[Stefan Blom]

OK, this is possible if you are editing the document in Print Preview, as
explained by Terry Farrell elsewhere in this thread.

But are you saying that you get the nonprinting marks automatically--that
all you have to do is switch to Print Preview to see them? I have to switch
to Print Preview, click to turn off the "Magnifier" option (Word 2007) and
then turn on nonprinting marks. The setting isn't saved with the document.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

W2007. And I don't recall seeing them before today either. But I just
tried it in W2003 (different computer), and, after I added the standard
toolbar and clicked the pilcrow, there they are.

Pam

Which version of Word are you using? Using Windows versions only (Word 97,
2000, 2003, and now 2007), I have certainly never seen nonprinting marks
in
Print Preview. (Well, one exception might be the shading applied to form
fields.)

They look exactly the same, pilcrows, centered dots for spaces, greyed
fields,

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i can't find the answer here.

 

[Graham Mayor]

It came as a surprise to me too that you could display the non-printing
characters in print preview, but without being able to print them, there
doesn't seem a lot of point - except maybe for tracing some anomaly between
print layout and print preview.

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Graham Mayor - Word MVP


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I expect that is true for 99.9999999999999% of users. But you can edit
whilst using Print Preview, so you can toggle on the non-printing
characters. All a bit alien to the way I work though!

Terry

Ah - I don't edit in Print Preview. I preview in Print Preview.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"

If you have editing in Print Preview enabled, then the non-printing
characters will display. But note that viewing of the non-printing
characters are separate actions in Print Preview and Page Layout
View. Just because you have it toggled on in Page Layout View does
not toggle them on for Print Preview. It needs toggling separately
for each view. Terry Farrell

They show up on my print preview screen, but they do not print.


JoAnn Paules wrote:
If you're seeing them in Print Preview, they aren't non-printing.

They look exactly the same, pilcrows, centered dots for spaces,
greyed fields,
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i can't find the answer here.

 

[Terry Farrell]

I think it enables both 'searching for that odd strange anomaly' and to
avoid deleting a hidden tab or paragraph mark if you are editing in that
mode.

Terry

It came as a surprise to me too that you could display the non-printing
characters in print preview, but without being able to print them, there
doesn't seem a lot of point - except maybe for tracing some anomaly
between print layout and print preview.

--
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Graham Mayor - Word MVP


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I expect that is true for 99.9999999999999% of users. But you can edit
whilst using Print Preview, so you can toggle on the non-printing
characters. All a bit alien to the way I work though!

Terry

Ah - I don't edit in Print Preview. I preview in Print Preview.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



If you have editing in Print Preview enabled, then the non-printing
characters will display. But note that viewing of the non-printing
characters are separate actions in Print Preview and Page Layout
View. Just because you have it toggled on in Page Layout View does
not toggle them on for Print Preview. It needs toggling separately
for each view. Terry Farrell

They show up on my print preview screen, but they do not print.


JoAnn Paules wrote:
If you're seeing them in Print Preview, they aren't non-printing.

They look exactly the same, pilcrows, centered dots for spaces,
greyed fields,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]

i can't find the answer here.

 

[Nucular Reaction]

Maybe it's because no one else needed to ask that question. Do your own
homework.

The MVPs are in rare venom today. Three snarly replies to a simple
question. Did you all attend the same Charm School?

Remind me again what MVP stands for?

Most Vicious Person?

Multiple Vitriolic Personalities?

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Especially if you also display text boundaries.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

If you display nonprinting marks the difference between Print Layout view
and Print Preview will be apparent.

 

[Stefan Blom]

But note, as other messages in the thread show, that nonprinting marks can
be displayed in Print Preview as well, if you first enable the editing mode.
That was certainly news to me.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

Especially if you also display text boundaries.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org