why i love frontpage

[chris leeds]

I love FrontPage and owe a lot to it's simplicity and ease of learning.

I've done all sorts of things; from sales to construction trades, even
worked with the mentally retarded, but I've never LOVED any job till I
started "web work". it's just something you can never get bored with.
there is so much to learn and so many different directions to take.

I picked up a copy of FrontPage 2002 about two years ago. as my ability has
expanded I've started to use FrontPage for "off the menu" stuff like editing
and publishing a PHP-Nuke, managing a bunch of webs, you name it. It's a
great tool if you know how to use it.

Why might I feel like I owe something to FrontPage? after all, I paid and I
got my software. seems simple enough, but it's not. If I'd chosen one of
the other apps like dreamweaver I'd have probably given up before the
addiction set in.

Yeah, I've got flash, Visual Studio, and Dreamweaver, but they're all
significantly harder and less intuitive to use than good old FrontPage. I
often cook up stuff in other applications and then open and manipulate them
with FrontPage. It's just so nice and easy that I'll actually go through
extra work upfront to be able to deal with stuff by using FrontPage.

So, there's my two cents. because of FrontPage being so easy to get into
I've embarked on a fantastic journey and I'm making money and growing my
skills and abilities. I've finally found a "job" that I truly love.

cl

 

[Tom Pepper Willett]

Chris: Had a cocktail or two tonight? ;-)

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| I love FrontPage and owe a lot to it's simplicity and ease of learning.
|
| I've done all sorts of things; from sales to construction trades, even
| worked with the mentally retarded, but I've never LOVED any job till I
| started "web work". it's just something you can never get bored with.
| there is so much to learn and so many different directions to take.
|
| I picked up a copy of FrontPage 2002 about two years ago. as my ability
has
| expanded I've started to use FrontPage for "off the menu" stuff like
editing
| and publishing a PHP-Nuke, managing a bunch of webs, you name it. It's a
| great tool if you know how to use it.
|
| Why might I feel like I owe something to FrontPage? after all, I paid and
I
| got my software. seems simple enough, but it's not. If I'd chosen one of
| the other apps like dreamweaver I'd have probably given up before the
| addiction set in.
|
| Yeah, I've got flash, Visual Studio, and Dreamweaver, but they're all
| significantly harder and less intuitive to use than good old FrontPage. I
| often cook up stuff in other applications and then open and manipulate
them
| with FrontPage. It's just so nice and easy that I'll actually go through
| extra work upfront to be able to deal with stuff by using FrontPage.
|
| So, there's my two cents. because of FrontPage being so easy to get into
| I've embarked on a fantastic journey and I'm making money and growing my
| skills and abilities. I've finally found a "job" that I truly love.
|
| cl
|
|

 

[KM]

Why don't you share will us some of your work?

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[Geoffw]

or some of whatever it is that you are taking for the
condition

 

[chris leeds]

not yet but I'm going to shortly. I think I had a brain fracture. I'm
trying to get a flash file to load pictures from a location dictated by the
info returned from a database. I think I blew a fuse in my brain. ;-)

 

[chris leeds]

My doctor calls them blunts.

or some of whatever it is that you are taking for the
condition

 

[Carl Vannest]

Chris,

I would have to agree with you on how great FrontPage is for the
"Beginner" to the "Expert". I just wish I could find a good web server that
stops pissing me off.....everytime I get my page the way I want it, the
idiots have something else go wrong and there I am stuck re-loading my page,
and figuring out what is still messed up. I think it might be time to just
go to Windows Server 2003 and call it a day!

Frustrated in VA,
Carl

 

[chris leeds]

www.geo-host.com
I've been using their "reseller" space for about a year and they're awesome.
use the windows server instead of the UNIX and you'll be in like Flynn.
their admins are responsive and very good. some of the things they've done
for me are way above and beyond. stuff like edit the pearl module, install
different .net components, constantly providing permissions changes for the
different projects. really awesome guys.
HTH

 

[John Sitka]

Beyond the examples to real world usefulness.

That's what I like. I don't know much about FrontPage. But over the last two
years it has been invaluable. I inherited a very interactive set of web
applications and static sites on an Intranet for a small manufacturing
company. These were created by a long list of folks on many different IIS
servers, with no real plan or vision. Written in a range of languages and
RAD tools. It goes back a while before me too so the company is fairly
advanced in that respect for a small shop. Well, getting all these apps
working well and in an organized setup is a large combination of moving
stuff around, retiring, rewritting, granting permissions to others, just a
whole lot of housekeeping really. Now I went thru some of the cryptic levels
and behaviors of server extensions especially the dual install nature of
2000 and 2002 with sharepoint but no big deal.

So in a Microsoft shop as the lone developer/dba/ERP guy in a company of 400
Frontpage has really helped. I use it like a code editor but when apps scale
and includes become api's and host machines and datasources are ever
evolving the ability of frontpage to provide the Explorer functionality is
great. Once I decided to never let any Frontpage generated "grey code" in my
files things have been great. One day I hope to have the time to see what
Frontpage can actually do if used as intended. Now that I have written 10's
of thousands of lines of script it would be nice to relax a bit and expoilt
some of the automation lurking in the design view. IIS6 rocks and hopefully
the real WSS will allow me a few trips to the darkside of a GUI. SQLYukon
Reporting services promises to cut my web work load (Acces Data Pages are a
bust as far as flexability and I had no interest in Crystal as a separate
product in case I went somewhere without it) in half but I can still see
managing all the files that make up a diverse intranet in Fronpage.

 

[chris leeds]

it is killer for management. on some of those code type pages I just have
FrontPage pop it in my chosen editor. FrontPage is pretty good about not
messing up/ with code (at least fp 2002 is and I hear fp 2003 is even better
at "letting go" of the code) I've been able to edit cgi stuff and php stuff
and it's never messed me up. I've never used anything prior to fp2002 so I
guess I'm lucky.

You'll probably find that it's ease of use will allow you to turn over stuff
to secretaries and untrained people without too much worry and reduce your
workload.

cl

 

[John Sitka]

I normally let them come to me, if they are interested. I have some
management guys maintaining some Work Cell (departmental) shedules that do
some publishing. And built some some rich text control pages for database
stored news announcements, calendars etc. WSS (formerly sharepoint) could do
all of that for the whole company in a nice way. Just change and purchases
to change things are difficult things to champion. Need to pick your
battles.