WHY? WHY? did Microsoft render shortcuts in Outlook 2003 useless?

[keezwyner]

It is totally inconceivable that they would render the best organizing
feature of Outlook completely useless. Why would you need shortcuts to
folders in a program that you are already in? With the shortcut feature
pre-Outlook 2003, everything was at your fingertips within Outlook. I seldom
left the program because I seldom had to. Someone, please EXPLAIN!

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

This feature was removed because almost no one used it.

 

[IanRoy]

Seriously? I admit I didn't use it, but only because I haven't been using
Outlook (went directly from Office for Windows 95 to Office 2003) but I would
have thought that anyone who had that feature would have been using it.

This feature was removed because almost no one used it.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

It is totally inconceivable that they would render the best organizing
feature of Outlook completely useless. Why would you need shortcuts to
folders in a program that you are already in? With the shortcut feature
pre-Outlook 2003, everything was at your fingertips within Outlook. I
seldom
left the program because I seldom had to. Someone, please EXPLAIN!

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

You can add shortcuts to the Shortcut pane - you need to drag them from
Explorer though and shortcuts to the file system folders will open in
Explorer. You can add shortcuts to programs and files, as well as folders.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



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[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

That's what the user studies showed.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

Seriously? I admit I didn't use it, but only because I haven't been using
Outlook (went directly from Office for Windows 95 to Office 2003) but I
would
have thought that anyone who had that feature would have been using it.

This feature was removed because almost no one used it.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

It is totally inconceivable that they would render the best organizing
feature of Outlook completely useless. Why would you need shortcuts to
folders in a program that you are already in? With the shortcut
feature
pre-Outlook 2003, everything was at your fingertips within Outlook. I
seldom
left the program because I seldom had to. Someone, please EXPLAIN!

 

[keezwyner]

It is true that you can add shortcuts by dragging them from Explorer; the
problem is that you cannot launch or open them (when they decide not to
disappear all by themselves) Items dragged and dropped in the shortcuts pane
are only good for the session you are currently in. When you reopen the
program, some or all of the shortcuts simply have disappeared and the ones
remaining have an Internet Explorer icon which cannot launch the program or
open the file. Microsoft should have really marketed the incredible
convenience that Outlook formerly offered. In my opinion, Outlook could have
completely replaced the need for "desktop".

You can add shortcuts to the Shortcut pane - you need to drag them from
Explorer though and shortcuts to the file system folders will open in
Explorer. You can add shortcuts to programs and files, as well as folders.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/

It is totally inconceivable that they would render the best organizing
feature of Outlook completely useless. Why would you need shortcuts to
folders in a program that you are already in? With the shortcut feature
pre-Outlook 2003, everything was at your fingertips within Outlook. I
seldom
left the program because I seldom had to. Someone, please EXPLAIN!

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

I think Microsoft agreed with you and that's why they had the option through
all versions until 2003. It was their usage studies that finally convinced
them too few people used the feature to warrant its continued inclusion.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

It is true that you can add shortcuts by dragging them from Explorer; the
problem is that you cannot launch or open them (when they decide not to
disappear all by themselves) Items dragged and dropped in the shortcuts
pane
are only good for the session you are currently in. When you reopen the
program, some or all of the shortcuts simply have disappeared and the ones
remaining have an Internet Explorer icon which cannot launch the program
or
open the file. Microsoft should have really marketed the incredible
convenience that Outlook formerly offered. In my opinion, Outlook could
have
completely replaced the need for "desktop".

You can add shortcuts to the Shortcut pane - you need to drag them from
Explorer though and shortcuts to the file system folders will open in
Explorer. You can add shortcuts to programs and files, as well as
folders.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/

It is totally inconceivable that they would render the best organizing
feature of Outlook completely useless. Why would you need shortcuts to
folders in a program that you are already in? With the shortcut
feature
pre-Outlook 2003, everything was at your fingertips within Outlook. I
seldom
left the program because I seldom had to. Someone, please EXPLAIN!

 

[keezwyner]

What a shame. Thanks

I think Microsoft agreed with you and that's why they had the option through
all versions until 2003. It was their usage studies that finally convinced
them too few people used the feature to warrant its continued inclusion.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

It is true that you can add shortcuts by dragging them from Explorer; the
problem is that you cannot launch or open them (when they decide not to
disappear all by themselves) Items dragged and dropped in the shortcuts
pane
are only good for the session you are currently in. When you reopen the
program, some or all of the shortcuts simply have disappeared and the ones
remaining have an Internet Explorer icon which cannot launch the program
or
open the file. Microsoft should have really marketed the incredible
convenience that Outlook formerly offered. In my opinion, Outlook could
have
completely replaced the need for "desktop".

You can add shortcuts to the Shortcut pane - you need to drag them from
Explorer though and shortcuts to the file system folders will open in
Explorer. You can add shortcuts to programs and files, as well as
folders.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


It is totally inconceivable that they would render the best organizing
feature of Outlook completely useless. Why would you need shortcuts to
folders in a program that you are already in? With the shortcut
feature
pre-Outlook 2003, everything was at your fingertips within Outlook. I
seldom
left the program because I seldom had to. Someone, please EXPLAIN!

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

the shortcuts disappear because outlook doesn't close properly - the file
they are added to isn't saved until outlook closes completely. If you add
shortcuts and close outlook and it closes completely (look in Task manager)
they will be there when you reopen it.

FWIW, the user studies showed that people didn;'t want to replace the
desktop - in fact, a large portion of outlook users open it, check mail and
close it soon after.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/

It is true that you can add shortcuts by dragging them from Explorer; the
problem is that you cannot launch or open them (when they decide not to
disappear all by themselves) Items dragged and dropped in the shortcuts
pane
are only good for the session you are currently in. When you reopen the
program, some or all of the shortcuts simply have disappeared and the ones
remaining have an Internet Explorer icon which cannot launch the program
or
open the file. Microsoft should have really marketed the incredible
convenience that Outlook formerly offered. In my opinion, Outlook could
have
completely replaced the need for "desktop".

You can add shortcuts to the Shortcut pane - you need to drag them from
Explorer though and shortcuts to the file system folders will open in
Explorer. You can add shortcuts to programs and files, as well as
folders.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/

It is totally inconceivable that they would render the best organizing
feature of Outlook completely useless. Why would you need shortcuts to
folders in a program that you are already in? With the shortcut
feature
pre-Outlook 2003, everything was at your fingertips within Outlook. I
seldom
left the program because I seldom had to. Someone, please EXPLAIN!

 

[btcolin]

Perhaps Microsoft would be kind enough to give those of us who want it, an
add-in that gives us back this function.

What a shame. Thanks

I think Microsoft agreed with you and that's why they had the option through
all versions until 2003. It was their usage studies that finally convinced
them too few people used the feature to warrant its continued inclusion.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

It is true that you can add shortcuts by dragging them from Explorer; the
problem is that you cannot launch or open them (when they decide not to
disappear all by themselves) Items dragged and dropped in the shortcuts
pane
are only good for the session you are currently in. When you reopen the
program, some or all of the shortcuts simply have disappeared and the ones
remaining have an Internet Explorer icon which cannot launch the program
or
open the file. Microsoft should have really marketed the incredible
convenience that Outlook formerly offered. In my opinion, Outlook could
have
completely replaced the need for "desktop".

:

You can add shortcuts to the Shortcut pane - you need to drag them from
Explorer though and shortcuts to the file system folders will open in
Explorer. You can add shortcuts to programs and files, as well as
folders.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


It is totally inconceivable that they would render the best organizing
feature of Outlook completely useless. Why would you need shortcuts to
folders in a program that you are already in? With the shortcut
feature
pre-Outlook 2003, everything was at your fingertips within Outlook. I
seldom
left the program because I seldom had to. Someone, please EXPLAIN!

 

[Lori]

I absolutely agree. I have MANY users that used to drag and drop emails into
numerous folders on their network drive using Outlook XP. Now, with Outlook
2003, they can no longer do this. And wow, are they complaining!

I wonder who was included in the user studies...

PLEASE provide us with an add-in that restores this functionality!!!

Perhaps Microsoft would be kind enough to give those of us who want it, an
add-in that gives us back this function.

What a shame. Thanks

I think Microsoft agreed with you and that's why they had the option through
all versions until 2003. It was their usage studies that finally convinced
them too few people used the feature to warrant its continued inclusion.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
It is true that you can add shortcuts by dragging them from Explorer; the
problem is that you cannot launch or open them (when they decide not to
disappear all by themselves) Items dragged and dropped in the shortcuts
pane
are only good for the session you are currently in. When you reopen the
program, some or all of the shortcuts simply have disappeared and the ones
remaining have an Internet Explorer icon which cannot launch the program
or
open the file. Microsoft should have really marketed the incredible
convenience that Outlook formerly offered. In my opinion, Outlook could
have
completely replaced the need for "desktop".

:

You can add shortcuts to the Shortcut pane - you need to drag them from
Explorer though and shortcuts to the file system folders will open in
Explorer. You can add shortcuts to programs and files, as well as
folders.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


It is totally inconceivable that they would render the best organizing
feature of Outlook completely useless. Why would you need shortcuts to
folders in a program that you are already in? With the shortcut
feature
pre-Outlook 2003, everything was at your fingertips within Outlook. I
seldom
left the program because I seldom had to. Someone, please EXPLAIN!

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

you can still drag and drop messages to windows folders - use windows
explorer to locate the folder.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/

I absolutely agree. I have MANY users that used to drag and drop emails
into
numerous folders on their network drive using Outlook XP. Now, with
Outlook
2003, they can no longer do this. And wow, are they complaining!

I wonder who was included in the user studies...

PLEASE provide us with an add-in that restores this functionality!!!

Perhaps Microsoft would be kind enough to give those of us who want it,
an
add-in that gives us back this function.

What a shame. Thanks

:

I think Microsoft agreed with you and that's why they had the option
through
all versions until 2003. It was their usage studies that finally
convinced
them too few people used the feature to warrant its continued
inclusion.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
It is true that you can add shortcuts by dragging them from
Explorer; the
problem is that you cannot launch or open them (when they decide
not to
disappear all by themselves) Items dragged and dropped in the
shortcuts
pane
are only good for the session you are currently in. When you
reopen the
program, some or all of the shortcuts simply have disappeared and
the ones
remaining have an Internet Explorer icon which cannot launch the
program
or
open the file. Microsoft should have really marketed the
incredible
convenience that Outlook formerly offered. In my opinion, Outlook
could
have
completely replaced the need for "desktop".

:

You can add shortcuts to the Shortcut pane - you need to drag them
from
Explorer though and shortcuts to the file system folders will open
in
Explorer. You can add shortcuts to programs and files, as well as
folders.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


It is totally inconceivable that they would render the best
organizing
feature of Outlook completely useless. Why would you need
shortcuts to
folders in a program that you are already in? With the shortcut
feature
pre-Outlook 2003, everything was at your fingertips within
Outlook. I
seldom
left the program because I seldom had to. Someone, please
EXPLAIN!

 

[Lori]

I know that explorer still works. But the users complain that 2 extra steps
are required:
1. resize the Outlook window (to make it smaller)
2. click on the shortcut to open an explorer window
Then they can drag and drop.
They are really making an issue out of this, you wouldn't believe !!

you can still drag and drop messages to windows folders - use windows
explorer to locate the folder.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/

I absolutely agree. I have MANY users that used to drag and drop emails
into
numerous folders on their network drive using Outlook XP. Now, with
Outlook
2003, they can no longer do this. And wow, are they complaining!

I wonder who was included in the user studies...

PLEASE provide us with an add-in that restores this functionality!!!

Perhaps Microsoft would be kind enough to give those of us who want it,
an
add-in that gives us back this function.

:

What a shame. Thanks

:

I think Microsoft agreed with you and that's why they had the option
through
all versions until 2003. It was their usage studies that finally
convinced
them too few people used the feature to warrant its continued
inclusion.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
It is true that you can add shortcuts by dragging them from
Explorer; the
problem is that you cannot launch or open them (when they decide
not to
disappear all by themselves) Items dragged and dropped in the
shortcuts
pane
are only good for the session you are currently in. When you
reopen the
program, some or all of the shortcuts simply have disappeared and
the ones
remaining have an Internet Explorer icon which cannot launch the
program
or
open the file. Microsoft should have really marketed the
incredible
convenience that Outlook formerly offered. In my opinion, Outlook
could
have
completely replaced the need for "desktop".

:

You can add shortcuts to the Shortcut pane - you need to drag them
from
Explorer though and shortcuts to the file system folders will open
in
Explorer. You can add shortcuts to programs and files, as well as
folders.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


It is totally inconceivable that they would render the best
organizing
feature of Outlook completely useless. Why would you need
shortcuts to
folders in a program that you are already in? With the shortcut
feature
pre-Outlook 2003, everything was at your fingertips within
Outlook. I
seldom
left the program because I seldom had to. Someone, please
EXPLAIN!

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

they can add shortcuts to the folder location on the Shortcut pane and drag
to it - just hover over the shortcut button to open that pane and drop it on
the correct shortcut.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/

I know that explorer still works. But the users complain that 2 extra
steps
are required:
1. resize the Outlook window (to make it smaller)
2. click on the shortcut to open an explorer window
Then they can drag and drop.
They are really making an issue out of this, you wouldn't believe !!

you can still drag and drop messages to windows folders - use windows
explorer to locate the folder.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/

I absolutely agree. I have MANY users that used to drag and drop emails
into
numerous folders on their network drive using Outlook XP. Now, with
Outlook
2003, they can no longer do this. And wow, are they complaining!

I wonder who was included in the user studies...

PLEASE provide us with an add-in that restores this functionality!!!


:

Perhaps Microsoft would be kind enough to give those of us who want
it,
an
add-in that gives us back this function.

:

What a shame. Thanks

:

I think Microsoft agreed with you and that's why they had the
option
through
all versions until 2003. It was their usage studies that finally
convinced
them too few people used the feature to warrant its continued
inclusion.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
It is true that you can add shortcuts by dragging them from
Explorer; the
problem is that you cannot launch or open them (when they decide
not to
disappear all by themselves) Items dragged and dropped in the
shortcuts
pane
are only good for the session you are currently in. When you
reopen the
program, some or all of the shortcuts simply have disappeared
and
the ones
remaining have an Internet Explorer icon which cannot launch the
program
or
open the file. Microsoft should have really marketed the
incredible
convenience that Outlook formerly offered. In my opinion,
Outlook
could
have
completely replaced the need for "desktop".

:

You can add shortcuts to the Shortcut pane - you need to drag
them
from
Explorer though and shortcuts to the file system folders will
open
in
Explorer. You can add shortcuts to programs and files, as well
as
folders.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart
Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


message
It is totally inconceivable that they would render the best
organizing
feature of Outlook completely useless. Why would you need
shortcuts to
folders in a program that you are already in? With the
shortcut
feature
pre-Outlook 2003, everything was at your fingertips within
Outlook. I
seldom
left the program because I seldom had to. Someone, please
EXPLAIN!

 

[Lori]

You're correct, they CAN add shortcuts to their network drive into the
Shortcut pane.

But they can't drag and drop emails into the shortcut. Outlook displays the
"circle with the line thru it" - it doesn't allow them to do this.

they can add shortcuts to the folder location on the Shortcut pane and drag
to it - just hover over the shortcut button to open that pane and drop it on
the correct shortcut.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/

I know that explorer still works. But the users complain that 2 extra
steps
are required:
1. resize the Outlook window (to make it smaller)
2. click on the shortcut to open an explorer window
Then they can drag and drop.
They are really making an issue out of this, you wouldn't believe !!

you can still drag and drop messages to windows folders - use windows
explorer to locate the folder.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


I absolutely agree. I have MANY users that used to drag and drop emails
into
numerous folders on their network drive using Outlook XP. Now, with
Outlook
2003, they can no longer do this. And wow, are they complaining!

I wonder who was included in the user studies...

PLEASE provide us with an add-in that restores this functionality!!!


:

Perhaps Microsoft would be kind enough to give those of us who want
it,
an
add-in that gives us back this function.

:

What a shame. Thanks

:

I think Microsoft agreed with you and that's why they had the
option
through
all versions until 2003. It was their usage studies that finally
convinced
them too few people used the feature to warrant its continued
inclusion.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
It is true that you can add shortcuts by dragging them from
Explorer; the
problem is that you cannot launch or open them (when they decide
not to
disappear all by themselves) Items dragged and dropped in the
shortcuts
pane
are only good for the session you are currently in. When you
reopen the
program, some or all of the shortcuts simply have disappeared
and
the ones
remaining have an Internet Explorer icon which cannot launch the
program
or
open the file. Microsoft should have really marketed the
incredible
convenience that Outlook formerly offered. In my opinion,
Outlook
could
have
completely replaced the need for "desktop".

:

You can add shortcuts to the Shortcut pane - you need to drag
them
from
Explorer though and shortcuts to the file system folders will
open
in
Explorer. You can add shortcuts to programs and files, as well
as
folders.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart
Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


message
It is totally inconceivable that they would render the best
organizing
feature of Outlook completely useless. Why would you need
shortcuts to
folders in a program that you are already in? With the
shortcut
feature
pre-Outlook 2003, everything was at your fingertips within
Outlook. I
seldom
left the program because I seldom had to. Someone, please
EXPLAIN!

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

then they can use it to open the folder in explorer and drag to it - no need
to resize the windows, just hover over the button on the taskbar to bring it
in focus.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/

You're correct, they CAN add shortcuts to their network drive into the
Shortcut pane.

But they can't drag and drop emails into the shortcut. Outlook displays
the
"circle with the line thru it" - it doesn't allow them to do this.

they can add shortcuts to the folder location on the Shortcut pane and
drag
to it - just hover over the shortcut button to open that pane and drop it
on
the correct shortcut.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/

I know that explorer still works. But the users complain that 2 extra
steps
are required:
1. resize the Outlook window (to make it smaller)
2. click on the shortcut to open an explorer window
Then they can drag and drop.
They are really making an issue out of this, you wouldn't believe !!

:

you can still drag and drop messages to windows folders - use windows
explorer to locate the folder.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


I absolutely agree. I have MANY users that used to drag and drop
emails
into
numerous folders on their network drive using Outlook XP. Now, with
Outlook
2003, they can no longer do this. And wow, are they complaining!

I wonder who was included in the user studies...

PLEASE provide us with an add-in that restores this functionality!!!


:

Perhaps Microsoft would be kind enough to give those of us who want
it,
an
add-in that gives us back this function.

:

What a shame. Thanks

:

I think Microsoft agreed with you and that's why they had the
option
through
all versions until 2003. It was their usage studies that
finally
convinced
them too few people used the feature to warrant its continued
inclusion.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
message
It is true that you can add shortcuts by dragging them from
Explorer; the
problem is that you cannot launch or open them (when they
decide
not to
disappear all by themselves) Items dragged and dropped in the
shortcuts
pane
are only good for the session you are currently in. When you
reopen the
program, some or all of the shortcuts simply have disappeared
and
the ones
remaining have an Internet Explorer icon which cannot launch
the
program
or
open the file. Microsoft should have really marketed the
incredible
convenience that Outlook formerly offered. In my opinion,
Outlook
could
have
completely replaced the need for "desktop".

:

You can add shortcuts to the Shortcut pane - you need to
drag
them
from
Explorer though and shortcuts to the file system folders
will
open
in
Explorer. You can add shortcuts to programs and files, as
well
as
folders.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
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It is totally inconceivable that they would render the
best
organizing
feature of Outlook completely useless. Why would you need
shortcuts to
folders in a program that you are already in? With the
shortcut
feature
pre-Outlook 2003, everything was at your fingertips within
Outlook. I
seldom
left the program because I seldom had to. Someone, please
EXPLAIN!

 

[Lori]

Thanks for the suggestion Diane. It does work, but it's certainly more
"kludgy".
The users are still going to complain. But unfortunately there's nothing as
simple as the way it was before...
Thanks again.

then they can use it to open the folder in explorer and drag to it - no need
to resize the windows, just hover over the button on the taskbar to bring it
in focus.

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Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
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You're correct, they CAN add shortcuts to their network drive into the
Shortcut pane.

But they can't drag and drop emails into the shortcut. Outlook displays
the
"circle with the line thru it" - it doesn't allow them to do this.

they can add shortcuts to the folder location on the Shortcut pane and
drag
to it - just hover over the shortcut button to open that pane and drop it
on
the correct shortcut.

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I know that explorer still works. But the users complain that 2 extra
steps
are required:
1. resize the Outlook window (to make it smaller)
2. click on the shortcut to open an explorer window
Then they can drag and drop.
They are really making an issue out of this, you wouldn't believe !!

:

you can still drag and drop messages to windows folders - use windows
explorer to locate the folder.

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I absolutely agree. I have MANY users that used to drag and drop
emails
into
numerous folders on their network drive using Outlook XP. Now, with
Outlook
2003, they can no longer do this. And wow, are they complaining!

I wonder who was included in the user studies...

PLEASE provide us with an add-in that restores this functionality!!!


:

Perhaps Microsoft would be kind enough to give those of us who want
it,
an
add-in that gives us back this function.

:

What a shame. Thanks

:

I think Microsoft agreed with you and that's why they had the
option
through
all versions until 2003. It was their usage studies that
finally
convinced
them too few people used the feature to warrant its continued
inclusion.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
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It is true that you can add shortcuts by dragging them from
Explorer; the
problem is that you cannot launch or open them (when they
decide
not to
disappear all by themselves) Items dragged and dropped in the
shortcuts
pane
are only good for the session you are currently in. When you
reopen the
program, some or all of the shortcuts simply have disappeared
and
the ones
remaining have an Internet Explorer icon which cannot launch
the
program
or
open the file. Microsoft should have really marketed the
incredible
convenience that Outlook formerly offered. In my opinion,
Outlook
could
have
completely replaced the need for "desktop".

:

You can add shortcuts to the Shortcut pane - you need to
drag
them
from
Explorer though and shortcuts to the file system folders
will
open
in
Explorer. You can add shortcuts to programs and files, as
well
as
folders.

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Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
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It is totally inconceivable that they would render the
best
organizing
feature of Outlook completely useless. Why would you need
shortcuts to
folders in a program that you are already in? With the
shortcut
feature
pre-Outlook 2003, everything was at your fingertips within
Outlook. I
seldom
left the program because I seldom had to. Someone, please
EXPLAIN!

 

[MaryO]

It's all about education. If people knew about it they would certainly value
it.
--
Mary O'Connor

the shortcuts disappear because outlook doesn't close properly - the file
they are added to isn't saved until outlook closes completely. If you add
shortcuts and close outlook and it closes completely (look in Task manager)
they will be there when you reopen it.

FWIW, the user studies showed that people didn;'t want to replace the
desktop - in fact, a large portion of outlook users open it, check mail and
close it soon after.

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It is true that you can add shortcuts by dragging them from Explorer; the
problem is that you cannot launch or open them (when they decide not to
disappear all by themselves) Items dragged and dropped in the shortcuts
pane
are only good for the session you are currently in. When you reopen the
program, some or all of the shortcuts simply have disappeared and the ones
remaining have an Internet Explorer icon which cannot launch the program
or
open the file. Microsoft should have really marketed the incredible
convenience that Outlook formerly offered. In my opinion, Outlook could
have
completely replaced the need for "desktop".

You can add shortcuts to the Shortcut pane - you need to drag them from
Explorer though and shortcuts to the file system folders will open in
Explorer. You can add shortcuts to programs and files, as well as
folders.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
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It is totally inconceivable that they would render the best organizing
feature of Outlook completely useless. Why would you need shortcuts to
folders in a program that you are already in? With the shortcut
feature
pre-Outlook 2003, everything was at your fingertips within Outlook. I
seldom
left the program because I seldom had to. Someone, please EXPLAIN!

 

[ukenterprise]

Russ. Sorry to advise that your answer to this is just not true. Everyone i
know used this feature on Outlook 2000 and if Microsoft didn't understand
that their research and feedback system doesn't work. I used and relied on
this feature and can't beleive it was removed. Having said that i undersdtand
that if you are an 'expert' you can still find a way of doing this iexcept
thast it's nothing like as useful.

This feature was removed because almost no one used it.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

It is totally inconceivable that they would render the best organizing
feature of Outlook completely useless. Why would you need shortcuts to
folders in a program that you are already in? With the shortcut feature
pre-Outlook 2003, everything was at your fingertips within Outlook. I
seldom
left the program because I seldom had to. Someone, please EXPLAIN!

 

[ukenterprise]

This doesn't work in thesame way and in fact takes longer without giving the
same result an a desktop shortcut. I cannot see how MS could have got
somethi9ng like this so wrong and i'm left wondering what is the reason to
keep using Outlook now. I'm also wondering if they have any plans to actually
listen to what people really want and bring this feature back. After all
Outlook was sold on the basis of being your day to day desktop removing the
neeed to go anywhere else - you could do it all from Outlook. What went
wrong?? Please let me know if there is an update planned or how i can find
out if one becomes vailable?

You can add shortcuts to the Shortcut pane - you need to drag them from
Explorer though and shortcuts to the file system folders will open in
Explorer. You can add shortcuts to programs and files, as well as folders.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



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It is totally inconceivable that they would render the best organizing
feature of Outlook completely useless. Why would you need shortcuts to
folders in a program that you are already in? With the shortcut feature
pre-Outlook 2003, everything was at your fingertips within Outlook. I
seldom
left the program because I seldom had to. Someone, please EXPLAIN!