Will FontPage change 404 files and others?

[Allison]

Hi -

There are a few files that my host automatically put in my directory. (I
hope I worded that correctly.) They have now showed up in list of files on
my local web site. Will FrontPage delete these files on the remote site or
over-wirte them with the old info stored on my hard drive? They are 404
files and such that are used for logging errors. They shouldn't be
over-written, should they?

~ Allison
www.threesistersfabric.com

 

[David Berry]

They shouldn't be overwritten. You can publish them down from your live
site so all your files are in sync or just right-click on them and mark them
as Do Not Publish

 

[Murray]

They can be overwritten if you produce custom ones. For example, browse to
this fictional address -

http://www.great-web-sights.com/zoom.asp

 

[Trevor L.]

They can be overwritten if you produce custom ones. For example,
browse to this fictional address -

http://www.great-web-sights.com/zoom.asp

Holy Cow, Murray. How do you do this?

I have reverse publsihed the site below to my hard disk and I can't see any
pages that look like they are 404 error messages.

I would like to be able to do this

For Example
I have a series of files named for the day and want to use "next" to go to
each, but if the day doesn't exist e.g. 20 October, then I want to generate
my own error message rather than the standard message.

In fact, for this example, it would be nice to add a button to return to the
page where the error occuured, i.e., where the incorrect day was requested.

 

[David Berry]

Trevor. First, your host has to support them. Second, they don't "need" to
be in the web site (just on the server) but can be. If your host supports
them you'd make a custom error page and give it a name (ex: 404.htm). Then
tell your host where to find it. Then they go into IIS, right click on the
web, choose properties and under the error page tab they would change the
pointer to the default IIS error page to the path of where your page is.

If you like ASP you can do some really cool things with error pages, like
send yourself an email to let you know someone got an error, the URL they
were trying to get to, redirect to another page etc. To do that you'd code
an error page but name it .asp and then in IIS the only change would be to
make the type "URL" instead of "FILE" and it will work.

Check with your host.

PS - if you want to see some cool pages people come up with check out
http://www.plinko.net/404/

Dave

They can be overwritten if you produce custom ones. For example,
browse to this fictional address -

http://www.great-web-sights.com/zoom.asp

Holy Cow, Murray. How do you do this?

I have reverse publsihed the site below to my hard disk and I can't see
any pages that look like they are 404 error messages.

I would like to be able to do this

For Example
I have a series of files named for the day and want to use "next" to go to
each, but if the day doesn't exist e.g. 20 October, then I want to
generate
my own error message rather than the standard message.

In fact, for this example, it would be nice to add a button to return to
the page where the error occuured, i.e., where the incorrect day was
requested.
--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/

 

[David Berry]

PS - IE5+ has it's own 'friendly' error messages built in, so to make sure
IE always uses your custom error pages (in case people haven't changed their
settings in IE to show friendly error messages), make sure the file size of
your page is over 512 bytes (not including images). Just add a lot of extra
text in a white font or fill your HTML with comments to make the file
larger. Then IE will always show your page.

Trevor. First, your host has to support them. Second, they don't "need"
to be in the web site (just on the server) but can be. If your host
supports them you'd make a custom error page and give it a name (ex:
404.htm). Then tell your host where to find it. Then they go into IIS,
right click on the web, choose properties and under the error page tab
they would change the pointer to the default IIS error page to the path of
where your page is.

If you like ASP you can do some really cool things with error pages, like
send yourself an email to let you know someone got an error, the URL they
were trying to get to, redirect to another page etc. To do that you'd
code an error page but name it .asp and then in IIS the only change would
be to make the type "URL" instead of "FILE" and it will work.

Check with your host.

PS - if you want to see some cool pages people come up with check out
http://www.plinko.net/404/

Dave

They can be overwritten if you produce custom ones. For example,
browse to this fictional address -

http://www.great-web-sights.com/zoom.asp

Holy Cow, Murray. How do you do this?

I have reverse publsihed the site below to my hard disk and I can't see
any pages that look like they are 404 error messages.

I would like to be able to do this

For Example
I have a series of files named for the day and want to use "next" to go
to
each, but if the day doesn't exist e.g. 20 October, then I want to
generate
my own error message rather than the standard message.

In fact, for this example, it would be nice to add a button to return to
the page where the error occuured, i.e., where the incorrect day was
requested.
--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/

 

[Trevor L.]

PS - IE5+ has it's own 'friendly' error messages built in, so to make
sure IE always uses your custom error pages (in case people haven't
changed their settings in IE to show friendly error messages), make
sure the file size of your page is over 512 bytes (not including
images). Just add a lot of extra text in a white font or fill your
HTML with comments to make the file larger. Then IE will always show
your page.

Is the page below what you mean?

If so, it is the one I am trying to replace.

BTW, it seems like a lot of trouble to set up a custom 404 page.
I have asked the website admin. what he can do (I forwarded the thread) so
maybe he can help.

P.S. I do not have IIS on my PC.

MESSAGE
========

The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed,
or is temporarily unavailable.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Please try the following:

a.. Make sure that the Web site address displayed in the address bar of
your browser is spelled and formatted correctly.
b.. If you reached this page by clicking a link, contact the Web site
administrator to alert them that the link is incorrectly formatted.
c.. Click the Back button to try another link.
HTTP Error 404 - File or directory not found.
Internet Information Services (IIS)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Technical Information (for support personnel)

a.. Go to Microsoft Product Support Services and perform a title search
for the words HTTP and 404.
b.. Open IIS Help, which is accessible in IIS Manager (inetmgr), and
search for topics titled Web Site Setup, Common Administrative Tasks, and
About Custom Error Messages.

 

[David Berry]

Yes. That's the default IE Error Page. And yes you can't just set them up
yourself, the web host has to do it for you but it's a 30 second deal.
Seriously, all you need to do is upload a custom made page and then they
just click Custom Errors, click on the 404 error and change the path to
point to your new page. It's really simple ..... if they will do it for you


If you want this for your site MVPS.ORG site and they aren't sure how to do
it have Felix or Karl email me and I'll send them step by step but I'm
pretty sure they'll know.

Dave

PS - IE5+ has it's own 'friendly' error messages built in, so to make
sure IE always uses your custom error pages (in case people haven't
changed their settings in IE to show friendly error messages), make
sure the file size of your page is over 512 bytes (not including
images). Just add a lot of extra text in a white font or fill your
HTML with comments to make the file larger. Then IE will always show
your page.

Is the page below what you mean?

If so, it is the one I am trying to replace.

BTW, it seems like a lot of trouble to set up a custom 404 page.
I have asked the website admin. what he can do (I forwarded the thread) so
maybe he can help.

P.S. I do not have IIS on my PC.

MESSAGE
========

The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name
changed, or is temporarily unavailable.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Please try the following:

a.. Make sure that the Web site address displayed in the address bar of
your browser is spelled and formatted correctly.
b.. If you reached this page by clicking a link, contact the Web site
administrator to alert them that the link is incorrectly formatted.
c.. Click the Back button to try another link.
HTTP Error 404 - File or directory not found.
Internet Information Services (IIS)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Technical Information (for support personnel)

a.. Go to Microsoft Product Support Services and perform a title search
for the words HTTP and 404.
b.. Open IIS Help, which is accessible in IIS Manager (inetmgr), and
search for topics titled Web Site Setup, Common Administrative Tasks, and
About Custom Error Messages.

--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/

 

[Ronx]

Some Windows (IIS) hosts allow 404 and 500 error pages to be set up
through the control panel.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

Yes. That's the default IE Error Page. And yes you can't just set them up
yourself, the web host has to do it for you but it's a 30 second deal.
Seriously, all you need to do is upload a custom made page and then they
just click Custom Errors, click on the 404 error and change the path to
point to your new page. It's really simple ..... if they will do it for you


If you want this for your site MVPS.ORG site and they aren't sure how to do
it have Felix or Karl email me and I'll send them step by step but I'm
pretty sure they'll know.

Dave

PS - IE5+ has it's own 'friendly' error messages built in, so to make
sure IE always uses your custom error pages (in case people haven't
changed their settings in IE to show friendly error messages), make
sure the file size of your page is over 512 bytes (not including
images). Just add a lot of extra text in a white font or fill your
HTML with comments to make the file larger. Then IE will always show
your page.

Is the page below what you mean?

If so, it is the one I am trying to replace.

BTW, it seems like a lot of trouble to set up a custom 404 page.
I have asked the website admin. what he can do (I forwarded the thread) so
maybe he can help.

P.S. I do not have IIS on my PC.

MESSAGE
========

The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name
changed, or is temporarily unavailable.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Please try the following:

a.. Make sure that the Web site address displayed in the address bar of
your browser is spelled and formatted correctly.
b.. If you reached this page by clicking a link, contact the Web site
administrator to alert them that the link is incorrectly formatted.
c.. Click the Back button to try another link.
HTTP Error 404 - File or directory not found.
Internet Information Services (IIS)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Technical Information (for support personnel)

a.. Go to Microsoft Product Support Services and perform a title search
for the words HTTP and 404.
b.. Open IIS Help, which is accessible in IIS Manager (inetmgr), and
search for topics titled Web Site Setup, Common Administrative Tasks, and
About Custom Error Messages.

--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/

 

[Murray]

Mine does, and that's how I did it....

--
Murray
--------------
MVP FrontPage

Some Windows (IIS) hosts allow 404 and 500 error pages to be set up
through the control panel.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

Yes. That's the default IE Error Page. And yes you can't just set them
up
yourself, the web host has to do it for you but it's a 30 second deal.
Seriously, all you need to do is upload a custom made page and then they
just click Custom Errors, click on the 404 error and change the path to
point to your new page. It's really simple ..... if they will do it for
you


If you want this for your site MVPS.ORG site and they aren't sure how to
do
it have Felix or Karl email me and I'll send them step by step but I'm
pretty sure they'll know.

Dave

David Berry wrote:
PS - IE5+ has it's own 'friendly' error messages built in, so to make
sure IE always uses your custom error pages (in case people haven't
changed their settings in IE to show friendly error messages), make
sure the file size of your page is over 512 bytes (not including
images). Just add a lot of extra text in a white font or fill your
HTML with comments to make the file larger. Then IE will always show
your page.

Is the page below what you mean?

If so, it is the one I am trying to replace.

BTW, it seems like a lot of trouble to set up a custom 404 page.
I have asked the website admin. what he can do (I forwarded the thread)
so
maybe he can help.

P.S. I do not have IIS on my PC.

MESSAGE
========

The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name
changed, or is temporarily unavailable.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Please try the following:

a.. Make sure that the Web site address displayed in the address bar
of
your browser is spelled and formatted correctly.
b.. If you reached this page by clicking a link, contact the Web site
administrator to alert them that the link is incorrectly formatted.
c.. Click the Back button to try another link.
HTTP Error 404 - File or directory not found.
Internet Information Services (IIS)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Technical Information (for support personnel)

a.. Go to Microsoft Product Support Services and perform a title
search
for the words HTTP and 404.
b.. Open IIS Help, which is accessible in IIS Manager (inetmgr), and
search for topics titled Web Site Setup, Common Administrative Tasks,
and
About Custom Error Messages.

--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/

 

[David Berry]

Some do but his host doesn't. That's why I gave him the steps.

Mine does, and that's how I did it....

--
Murray
--------------
MVP FrontPage

Some Windows (IIS) hosts allow 404 and 500 error pages to be set up
through the control panel.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

Yes. That's the default IE Error Page. And yes you can't just set them
up
yourself, the web host has to do it for you but it's a 30 second deal.
Seriously, all you need to do is upload a custom made page and then they
just click Custom Errors, click on the 404 error and change the path to
point to your new page. It's really simple ..... if they will do it for
you


If you want this for your site MVPS.ORG site and they aren't sure how to
do
it have Felix or Karl email me and I'll send them step by step but I'm
pretty sure they'll know.

Dave


David Berry wrote:
PS - IE5+ has it's own 'friendly' error messages built in, so to make
sure IE always uses your custom error pages (in case people haven't
changed their settings in IE to show friendly error messages), make
sure the file size of your page is over 512 bytes (not including
images). Just add a lot of extra text in a white font or fill your
HTML with comments to make the file larger. Then IE will always show
your page.

Is the page below what you mean?

If so, it is the one I am trying to replace.

BTW, it seems like a lot of trouble to set up a custom 404 page.
I have asked the website admin. what he can do (I forwarded the
thread) so
maybe he can help.

P.S. I do not have IIS on my PC.

MESSAGE
========

The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name
changed, or is temporarily unavailable.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Please try the following:

a.. Make sure that the Web site address displayed in the address bar
of
your browser is spelled and formatted correctly.
b.. If you reached this page by clicking a link, contact the Web site
administrator to alert them that the link is incorrectly formatted.
c.. Click the Back button to try another link.
HTTP Error 404 - File or directory not found.
Internet Information Services (IIS)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Technical Information (for support personnel)

a.. Go to Microsoft Product Support Services and perform a title
search
for the words HTTP and 404.
b.. Open IIS Help, which is accessible in IIS Manager (inetmgr), and
search for topics titled Web Site Setup, Common Administrative Tasks,
and
About Custom Error Messages.

--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/

 

[Trevor L.]

Thanks all.

Karl at mvps.org set up the link to the error page for me and was very
helpful.

Now Karl has suggested I use a ASP page, but I'll have to get him to change
the link again if I do this

Ah well

 

[David Berry]

All that to set up a custom 404 error page and all you came up with is

"This page does not exist"

Thanks all.

Karl at mvps.org set up the link to the error page for me and was very
helpful.

Now Karl has suggested I use a ASP page, but I'll have to get him to
change the link again if I do this

Ah well
--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/

Some do but his host doesn't. That's why I gave him the steps.

 

[Trevor L.]

All that to set up a custom 404 error page and all you came up with is

"This page does not exist"

Yeah, I know.

But it is a start.

Now I have the page and the link I can be lots more creative - I hope.

I have actually found a website that lists imginative 404 error pages. While
I may not follow the ideas in all, they give some clues.

 

[David Berry]

It's a good start. Did you check out http://www.plinko.net/404/ ?

All that to set up a custom 404 error page and all you came up with is

"This page does not exist"

Yeah, I know.

But it is a start.

Now I have the page and the link I can be lots more creative - I hope.

I have actually found a website that lists imginative 404 error pages.
While I may not follow the ideas in all, they give some clues.
--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/

 

[Trevor L.]

It's a good start. Did you check out http://www.plinko.net/404/ ?

Yes, I have just had a look .

Ther are some good ones.

I just put a modified one up a minute ago. It may be copyright so I may
alter it some more

 

[David Berry]

I like that one better. More creative.

It's a good start. Did you check out http://www.plinko.net/404/ ?

Yes, I have just had a look .

Ther are some good ones.

I just put a modified one up a minute ago. It may be copyright so I may
alter it some more
--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/