WinWord 2003 looses images

[Thorsten Claus]

Hi there,
I have a document with ~100 pages, 60 graphics, and I start loosing images.
Instead of the image a clear square of 1" is displayed.

Is there a way to recover the images? How do I proceed in the future?

Thanks for any help,
Thorsten

 

[Idaho Word Man]

A little more info would be useful. Where did you get this document? Did
you create it, import it from another word processing program, or download it
from the Internet?

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

When a document contains a lot of graphics and processing power is limited,
Word will automatically enable picture placeholders (Tools | Options |
View). You can disable this, but don't be surprised if it gets turned on
again.

 

[Thorsten Claus]

unfortunately this is not the case. I checked this box, too, and I also
checked the Print View, the original pictures are gone, but 1 inch square
boxes are instead displayed.

I created the document myself, current size is about 20 MB.

I inserted the pictures with Paste Special -> Bitmap and reduced all the
bitmaps over the compress command for 200 DPI. I can paste and copy from
previous versions of my document, but during further editing, the pictures
will vanish again.

When I open the document and try to select one of these 1 inch boxes, an
error messages says "not enough memory", though my page file is only 600MB
(maximum 2GB), and no other applications are open, closed all background
stuff like Skype, X1, Outlook, ...) I've got a Centrino 1.66 with 1GB ram,
seems to be too little...

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

There's something weird going on here because I created a document with at
least 100 large photographs (linked, not embedded) on a system with
considerably less muscle than you have, without the issues you're
experiencing. One advantage to linking the graphics (when possible) is that
they're not entirely gone even if they go astray.

 

[John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]]

Hi Thorsten:

Yeah, Centrinos were build for battery life, not power.

I suspect that it's "Graphics Memory" that you have run out of. If you
weren't on a laptop, I would advise you to switch the graphics card for one
with a lot more memory.

A 200 dpi bitmap for a full page graphic will expand in memory to 4 colours
x 8 bits x (200 x 8.5) x (200 x 11). That's 119,680,000 bits: nearly 15
megabytes per picture. You now begin to see where you're running out of
memory?

Try this: Get those images and size them to the size you want to print them
at. THEN save them to your hard disk in PNG format. Now insert those in
the document. PNG is one of Word's native graphics formats: it doesn't need
to expand them so much when it displays them.

But I think your real problem is that you shouldn't be attempting this on a
Centrino laptop: they haven't got the grunt for it

Cheers

unfortunately this is not the case. I checked this box, too, and I also
checked the Print View, the original pictures are gone, but 1 inch square
boxes are instead displayed.

I created the document myself, current size is about 20 MB.

I inserted the pictures with Paste Special -> Bitmap and reduced all the
bitmaps over the compress command for 200 DPI. I can paste and copy from
previous versions of my document, but during further editing, the pictures
will vanish again.

When I open the document and try to select one of these 1 inch boxes, an
error messages says "not enough memory", though my page file is only 600MB
(maximum 2GB), and no other applications are open, closed all background
stuff like Skype, X1, Outlook, ...) I've got a Centrino 1.66 with 1GB ram,
seems to be too little...

--

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me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <[email protected]>
Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Consultant Technical Writer
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410

 

[Prikolist]

I have the same problem (2 docs, about 100 pages/40 gigs each, 1-2 pics per
page with text)... Tried it on a few PC's, over 2GHz and over 2GB or RAM,
same error.

But how come the error comes up, even though I have several extra 100's of
MB's of RAM free, and a few gigs of pagefile and free hd space? Just doesn't
make sense. And computer isn't lagging while working with the files.

And this happened only recently. Previously when working with those and
similar in size/type files I always used the "compress pictures" feature and
everything worked perfectly flawless. This started a few days ago, coinciding
with the time when I installed several Office updates through Microsoft
Update, so I suspect that's the true cause of the problem.

---------------Serge

Hi Thorsten:

Yeah, Centrinos were build for battery life, not power.

I suspect that it's "Graphics Memory" that you have run out of. If you
weren't on a laptop, I would advise you to switch the graphics card for one
with a lot more memory.

A 200 dpi bitmap for a full page graphic will expand in memory to 4 colours
x 8 bits x (200 x 8.5) x (200 x 11). That's 119,680,000 bits: nearly 15
megabytes per picture. You now begin to see where you're running out of
memory?

Try this: Get those images and size them to the size you want to print them
at. THEN save them to your hard disk in PNG format. Now insert those in
the document. PNG is one of Word's native graphics formats: it doesn't need
to expand them so much when it displays them.

But I think your real problem is that you shouldn't be attempting this on a
Centrino laptop: they haven't got the grunt for it

Cheers

unfortunately this is not the case. I checked this box, too, and I also
checked the Print View, the original pictures are gone, but 1 inch square
boxes are instead displayed.

I created the document myself, current size is about 20 MB.

I inserted the pictures with Paste Special -> Bitmap and reduced all the
bitmaps over the compress command for 200 DPI. I can paste and copy from
previous versions of my document, but during further editing, the pictures
will vanish again.

When I open the document and try to select one of these 1 inch boxes, an
error messages says "not enough memory", though my page file is only 600MB
(maximum 2GB), and no other applications are open, closed all background
stuff like Skype, X1, Outlook, ...) I've got a Centrino 1.66 with 1GB ram,
seems to be too little...

--

Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email
me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <[email protected]>
Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Consultant Technical Writer
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410

 

[Prikolist]

*I meant 40 megs each

I have the same problem (2 docs, about 100 pages/40 gigs each, 1-2 pics per
page with text)... Tried it on a few PC's, over 2GHz and over 2GB or RAM,
same error.

But how come the error comes up, even though I have several extra 100's of
MB's of RAM free, and a few gigs of pagefile and free hd space? Just doesn't
make sense. And computer isn't lagging while working with the files.

And this happened only recently. Previously when working with those and
similar in size/type files I always used the "compress pictures" feature and
everything worked perfectly flawless. This started a few days ago, coinciding
with the time when I installed several Office updates through Microsoft
Update, so I suspect that's the true cause of the problem.

---------------Serge

Hi Thorsten:

Yeah, Centrinos were build for battery life, not power.

I suspect that it's "Graphics Memory" that you have run out of. If you
weren't on a laptop, I would advise you to switch the graphics card for one
with a lot more memory.

A 200 dpi bitmap for a full page graphic will expand in memory to 4 colours
x 8 bits x (200 x 8.5) x (200 x 11). That's 119,680,000 bits: nearly 15
megabytes per picture. You now begin to see where you're running out of
memory?

Try this: Get those images and size them to the size you want to print them
at. THEN save them to your hard disk in PNG format. Now insert those in
the document. PNG is one of Word's native graphics formats: it doesn't need
to expand them so much when it displays them.

But I think your real problem is that you shouldn't be attempting this on a
Centrino laptop: they haven't got the grunt for it

Cheers

unfortunately this is not the case. I checked this box, too, and I also
checked the Print View, the original pictures are gone, but 1 inch square
boxes are instead displayed.

I created the document myself, current size is about 20 MB.

I inserted the pictures with Paste Special -> Bitmap and reduced all the
bitmaps over the compress command for 200 DPI. I can paste and copy from
previous versions of my document, but during further editing, the pictures
will vanish again.

When I open the document and try to select one of these 1 inch boxes, an
error messages says "not enough memory", though my page file is only 600MB
(maximum 2GB), and no other applications are open, closed all background
stuff like Skype, X1, Outlook, ...) I've got a Centrino 1.66 with 1GB ram,
seems to be too little...


When a document contains a lot of graphics and processing power is
limited,
Word will automatically enable picture placeholders (Tools | Options |
View). You can disable this, but don't be surprised if it gets turned on
again.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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Hi there,
I have a document with ~100 pages, 60 graphics, and I start loosing
images.
Instead of the image a clear square of 1" is displayed.

Is there a way to recover the images? How do I proceed in the future?

Thanks for any help,
Thorsten

--

Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email
me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <[email protected]>
Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Consultant Technical Writer
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410