Word 12.2.3 Loads FAST

[MC]

I just updated Office to 12.2.3 and there is almost no time lag in
loading Word now.

 

[Jeff Chapman]

Yes, Word 2008 (12.2.3) after the update loads up within anywhere from
about 10 seconds (after quitting Word, putting the Mac to sleep and
starting up again) to a blinding two seconds on my system.

Holy Batman, we've got a speed demon on our hands!

I'm on Mac OS X 10.6.2, 2 GB Core 2 Duo with 4 GB RAM.

Jeff

 

[John McGhie]

Fit your 'puter with an SSD for the System and Applications, and Word 2008
launches faster than you can hit the stop-watch

Yes, Word 2008 (12.2.3) after the update loads up within anywhere from
about 10 seconds (after quitting Word, putting the Mac to sleep and
starting up again) to a blinding two seconds on my system.

Holy Batman, we've got a speed demon on our hands!

I'm on Mac OS X 10.6.2, 2 GB Core 2 Duo with 4 GB RAM.

Jeff

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[Jeff Chapman]

Hi John,

Fit your 'puter with an SSD for the System and Applications, and Word 2008
launches faster than you can hit the stop-watch

Uh huh... but they do cost an arm and a leg. I can buy a new computer
for the price of refitting my MacBook with a 128GB SSD.

Jeff

 

[John McGhie]

Not any more: Prices are tumbling About $250.00 will get you a good
one.

You don't need one that big, unless you only have room for one disk.

I have the whole of the System and the Applications folder on a 64 GB disk
with almost 50% room to spare.

SSDs excel at large numbers of small random reads, such as the system makes,
or that applications make when they're launching.

They slow down a lot faced with large sequential writes, such as saving a
movie or photos. The cheap ones can be beaten by a high-speed spinning
disk. So I would try not to put much "data" on one; especially, not
volatile data.

Cheers

Hi John,



Uh huh... but they do cost an arm and a leg. I can buy a new computer
for the price of refitting my MacBook with a 128GB SSD.

Jeff

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[Phillip Jones, C.E.T.]

You can get one version of the

Hi John,



Uh huh... but they do cost an arm and a leg. I can buy a new computer
for the price of refitting my MacBook with a 128GB SSD.

Jeff

go here: you can get a built in 128GB SSD to MacBook Air. Pretty cheap too.
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook_air?mco=MTAyNTQzMjc

 

[John McGhie]

Hi Phillip:

Yes. Those SSDs that Apple is selling are cheap for a reason

They are first-generation Samsungs with the crappy controller. They slow
down like treacle in winter once they have been in service for a while. And
there is no effective way to restore them, because they do not support the
"TRIM" command.

Let's just wait a while for Apple to work that old stock out of the system
before recommending that our friends buy one from Apple.

Cheers

You can get one version of the



go here: you can get a built in 128GB SSD to MacBook Air. Pretty cheap too.
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook_air?mco=MTAyNTQz
Mjc

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[Phillip Jones, C.E.T.]

To me the Technology is just too new I wouldn't Trust it. Just like when
CD Technology first came out. You made more coasters than reliable CD's.
And beside the SSD's as Currently have a limited life. A Hard drive does
as well but if Treated right a HD has very long life. And with the SSD's
If you try to write items such as Music or Pictures takes a very long
time. from my understand if the technology.

I've had to replace one or two of my Cards in my Digital Camera because
they started acting funny. For computer use I want something I can
depend upon.

 

[John McGhie]

Hi Phillip:

I agree: I wouldn't argue with any of this.

I have an SSD and I know that it will wear out someday. In my case,
probably not before the system does (or I do...) but it will stop one day.

Cheers

To me the Technology is just too new I wouldn't Trust it. Just like when
CD Technology first came out. You made more coasters than reliable CD's.
And beside the SSD's as Currently have a limited life. A Hard drive does
as well but if Treated right a HD has very long life. And with the SSD's
If you try to write items such as Music or Pictures takes a very long
time. from my understand if the technology.

I've had to replace one or two of my Cards in my Digital Camera because
they started acting funny. For computer use I want something I can
depend upon.

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Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]

 

[Jeff Chapman]

Hello John,

There's another bit of good SSDs don't typically fail "all at once,
bang, you've lost it". They start throwing single-bit errors.
Correctible
errors. The system usually has years to detect these errors and warn you
that the drive is on the way out before it gets to the point where it
begins
to lose data.

SSDs are a good thing: but the current crop is "a good first attempt".
Watch this space...

Thanks for all of the background information on this.
Think I'll hold off for a little while before getting that new MacBook
Air... hahaha...

Jeff

 

[Phillip Jones, C.E.T.]

Hi Clive!

I'm not sure these would be your words but since you seem to be
uncharacteristically speechless...



Not being judgmental, but I truly believe that anyone with at least
semi-serious computing needs& not infatuated with fads&
techno-conversation pieces would agree with John's perspective on the Air...
Especially many of those who are already in possession of one ;-)

IMO, His comparison of the MB/MBP is not as well-founded. Knowing John, he's
probably comparing a stock MB to a blown-out 17" MBP, though ;-)

It also depends on which respective generations you chose to compare. I took
the plunge in favor of the 15" MBP nearly 2 years ago. My keys for the
decision at that time remain valid as of the current releases. The
difference in price was justified in my mind by the larger screen, backlit
keyboard& inclusion of a FireWire port& higher graphics performance.
Additionally, at that time MBs were limited to 2GB& offered slower
processors. A few less significant features factored in as well.

As for reliability, I've had zero problems. Performance has been flawless&
it has accepted every device I've connected to it -- physically or via
Bluetooth. And the weight difference -- that amount to probably 1/10 of the
weight of all the other needless junk most folks cram into their laptop
bags... And then complain about how heavy the *computer* is

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

When I get so I ca buy one I will get the blown out MBP 17" I bought a
Blown out PBP when it came out. and I have immensely enjoyed. but
systems wise it long in the tooth. I don't whether I get an excessively
large drive. But will get try to get as much RAM as I ca afford. 2GB is
not enough.