Word 2001 can not resave doc with same name on w2k server

[Jon Sherry]

My problem is similar to David's problem of 9/9, but my server is Win1k
SP4. The problem was first reported to me a month after I migrated from
an older server with W2K sp3 to our present server. The problem only
occurs in the Users share. I have other shares where users do not have
permissions at the root of the share, and they work fine. Assigning
write access to Domain Users or Everyone at the root of the share does
not fix the problem.

The problem occurs in older versions of Word 2001 or with the latest
patches. I moved one user's user folder to another share and he's
happy.

The question is, why did it start occuring all of a sudden? Why does
it only affect one share? I see no diffences in NTFS permissions.

I'll try creating a new share and see how that one works. I may migrate
all my Mac users to it, as needed.

-jb

 

[John McGhie [MVP]]

Hi John:

Make sure you include "Rename" and "Remove" permissions.

A Word file save is a Write, Rename, Rename, Delete sequence. It's faster
and safer, but it requires that users have rename and remove permissions.

Also, make sure you are up at the latest service levels for both Word and
Win 2000.

SP3 on Win2K broke the workings if SMB connections (basically, it was being
too permissive, and when they fixed the security, they broke access from
Apple SMB).

I can't remember the exact fix, but there's an article about it on
www.mvps.org/word/mac.

Hope this helps

My problem is similar to David's problem of 9/9, but my server is Win1k
SP4. The problem was first reported to me a month after I migrated from
an older server with W2K sp3 to our present server. The problem only
occurs in the Users share. I have other shares where users do not have
permissions at the root of the share, and they work fine. Assigning
write access to Domain Users or Everyone at the root of the share does
not fix the problem.

The problem occurs in older versions of Word 2001 or with the latest
patches. I moved one user's user folder to another share and he's
happy.

The question is, why did it start occuring all of a sudden? Why does
it only affect one share? I see no diffences in NTFS permissions.

I'll try creating a new share and see how that one works. I may migrate
all my Mac users to it, as needed.

-jb

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[Jon Sherry]

Thanks for the reply, John.

Hi John:

Make sure you include "Rename" and "Remove" permissions.

I don't see those permissions under W2k. The problem is occuring on
user folders, and the users have Full Control of the folder, including
Create Files/Write Data, Write Attributes, Write Extended Attributes,
Delete Subfolders and Files, and Delete.

and safer, but it requires that users have rename and remove permissions.

Also, make sure you are up at the latest service levels for both Word and
Win 2000.

Yup, I'm running W2K SP4 and the latest combo updater on Office 2001.

SP3 on Win2K broke the workings if SMB connections (basically, it was being
too permissive, and when they fixed the security, they broke access from
Apple SMB).

I assume by Apple SMB, you mean AFP Apple Filing Protocol, which is the
protocol used by W2k's Services For Macintosh (SFM)? Most of my users
are running OS 9, and accessing the server with SFM. I've duplicated
the problem under Office:vX running on OS 10.26, but also using SFM to
access the server.

I can't remember the exact fix, but there's an article about it on
www.mvps.org/word/mac.

Unfotunately, that's a dead link. There is a Mac FAQ at
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/WordMac/RealIndex.htm, which mostly
addresses OS X issues. Using the search function on MVPWord to query
"Macintosh and resave" produced no hits.A Search on the string
"Macintosh" produced 26 topics, none related to this subject.


I've subsequently created a new user folder and mac share called
Macusers, at the same filesystem level as Users. I created a new user
folder for one user and copied all their files over to the new
location. So far, it works., but I can't see what's wrong with the old
location, so this could happen again.

Any additional help would be appreciated.

 

[John McGhie [MVP]]

Hi Jon:

Sorry, you've run me out of ideas. The only other thing I could suggest is
to check the user's temporary folder, but I assume you have already done
that.

Cheers

Thanks for the reply, John.




I don't see those permissions under W2k. The problem is occuring on
user folders, and the users have Full Control of the folder, including
Create Files/Write Data, Write Attributes, Write Extended Attributes,
Delete Subfolders and Files, and Delete.



Yup, I'm running W2K SP4 and the latest combo updater on Office 2001.
I assume by Apple SMB, you mean AFP Apple Filing Protocol, which is the
protocol used by W2k's Services For Macintosh (SFM)? Most of my users
are running OS 9, and accessing the server with SFM. I've duplicated
the problem under Office:vX running on OS 10.26, but also using SFM to
access the server.


Unfotunately, that's a dead link. There is a Mac FAQ at
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/WordMac/RealIndex.htm, which mostly
addresses OS X issues. Using the search function on MVPWord to query
"Macintosh and resave" produced no hits.A Search on the string
"Macintosh" produced 26 topics, none related to this subject.


I've subsequently created a new user folder and mac share called
Macusers, at the same filesystem level as Users. I created a new user
folder for one user and copied all their files over to the new
location. So far, it works., but I can't see what's wrong with the old
location, so this could happen again.

Any additional help would be appreciated.

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