Word 2002 switches between UK & US dictionaries

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Chris Burson

When spell checking, I and my wife, Anna, on separate computers keep getting
this identical error. One minute, the spell check is done against the UK
dictionary, the next it's the US. The default dictionary is UK, the default
language & keyboards are UK and all the other international settings I can
find are UK. Anyone know why this happens, and most importantly, how to stop
it?

Cheers,

Chris

P.S. All the latest Office & Windows updates are installed on both PCs.
 
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Shauna Kelly

Hi Chris

First, you must set up Windows, Office and Word so they all use the UK
dictionary. For how to do that, see
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister/LangFmt.htm



Second, it's easy for a document to get infested with the wrong language. If
you copy and paste from a web site, for example, you almost always bring US
English along with the text. So you need to re-set that text to UK English
(Select the text, then Tools > Language). Or, when you paste, do Edit >
Paste Special and paste unformatted.


Hope this helps.

Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word
 
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Chris Burson

Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle. It never occurred to me that copying &
pasting stuff would carry over the dictionary from the copied text.
Understandable, but what a pain! I thought that the default document
settings would be applied - especially as I always select 'Use Destination
Formatting'... In fact, I don't understand why that is not the case!

Still, I can see how my docs. get "polluted" (so to speak) with US
spellings. I spend a huge amount of time pasting stuff from (electronic)
books & websites for essays, so that would be the problem then. But why
doesn't Destination Formatting cover the dictionary? (Wouldn't Paste Special
do just that anyway?)

I appreciate the reply, Shauna, many thanks indeed.

Cheers,

Chris



in message

: Hi Chris
:
: First, you must set up Windows, Office and Word so they all use the UK
: dictionary...
: Second... If you copy and paste from a web site, for example, you almost
always bring
: US English along with the text. So you need to re-set that text to UK
English
: (Select the text, then Tools > Language). Or, when you paste, do Edit >
: Paste Special and paste unformatted.
:
:
: Hope this helps.
:
: Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
: http://www.shaunakelly.com/word
:
:
: "Chris Burson" wrote in message

: > When spell checking... One minute, the spell check is done against the
UK
: > dictionary, the next it's the US...
 
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

I agree that Destionation Formatting should include language. You might want
to check next time you do this and ascertain whether it does or not.
 
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Shauna Kelly

Hi Suzanne, Chris

A bit of experimenting this morning reveals the following. All this is in
Word 2003 (and this is the very short, cut-down version of the
experimentation!).

I have told Windows (through Control Panel > Regional Settings) that I
*only* want Australian English, and I've told Office (through Start >
Microsoft Office > Microsoft Office Tools > Microsoft Office 2003 Language
Settinngs) that I *only* want Australian English, and my document is in
Australian English.

In most cases, I can paste from the web, and the text will paste as
Australian. But in some cases, text pastes as US English. And if I've pasted
into the middle of a sentence, I'll then have some words in Australian
English and some words in US English. And that can be particularly
irritating, because the same word can be marked as a spelling mistake at the
beginning of a sentence, but correct near the end!

The crucial issue seems to be how the web page was written. At
www.microsoft.com, for example, there appears to be no specific language set
on text. So without a specific language, text pastes into Word and its
language matches the surrounding text. However, the site at www.w3.org has,
not surprisingly, followed all its own rules about coding web pages. The
source code for the front page of its site specifically sets its language as
US English. And, sure enough, when I paste text from its site, it pastes as
US English.

If I do Paste > Special and choose unformatted, then the text loses its US
English. But if I just paste, use the Paste Options button and choose
"Destination Formatting", it keeps its US English.

So the rule would appear to be:

- if the source code of a web site specifically identifies a language, Word
respects that language if you just do ctrl-v, or if you choose Destination
Formatting, but Word discards the language when you do Paste > Special and
choose Unformattted

- if the web page does not specifically identify a language, the text will
paste in the same language as surrounding text in the Word document.

Hope this helps.

Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word
 
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Chris Burson

Shauna - this is indeed a great help, if only because it means I shall now
refrain from howling at the moon tonight. ;-)

This is what is exactly what I've been finding:

: ... But in some cases, text pastes as US English. And if I've pasted
: into the middle of a sentence, I'll then have some words in Australian
: English and some words in US English. And that can be particularly
: irritating...

It was driving me nuts. I thought it was a bug or that I was getting
unhinged (although blaming the moon now seems simply foolish). However, I am
not mad! It's still an annoying issue, to be sure, but maybe a bit of
messing about it Paste Special will reveal a quick and easy way to Copy from
now on.

Many thanks for all your efforts here, Shauna, it must have taken a good
deal of your time - but it's much appreciated. Thank you!

Cheers,

Chris


: Hi Suzanne, Chris
:
: A bit of experimenting this morning reveals the following. All this is in
: Word 2003 (and this is the very short, cut-down version of the
: experimentation!).
:
: I have told Windows (through Control Panel > Regional Settings) that I
: *only* want Australian English, and I've told Office (through Start >
: Microsoft Office > Microsoft Office Tools > Microsoft Office 2003 Language
: Settinngs) that I *only* want Australian English, and my document is in
: Australian English.
:
: In most cases, I can paste from the web, and the text will paste as
: Australian. But in some cases, text pastes as US English. And if I've
pasted
: into the middle of a sentence, I'll then have some words in Australian
: English and some words in US English. And that can be particularly
: irritating, because the same word can be marked as a spelling mistake at
the
: beginning of a sentence, but correct near the end!
:
: The crucial issue seems to be how the web page was written. At
: www.microsoft.com, for example, there appears to be no specific language
set
: on text. So without a specific language, text pastes into Word and its
: language matches the surrounding text. However, the site at www.w3.org
has,
: not surprisingly, followed all its own rules about coding web pages. The
: source code for the front page of its site specifically sets its language
as
: US English. And, sure enough, when I paste text from its site, it pastes
as
: US English.
:
: If I do Paste > Special and choose unformatted, then the text loses its US
: English. But if I just paste, use the Paste Options button and choose
: "Destination Formatting", it keeps its US English.
:
: So the rule would appear to be:
:
: - if the source code of a web site specifically identifies a language,
Word
: respects that language if you just do ctrl-v, or if you choose Destination
: Formatting, but Word discards the language when you do Paste > Special and
: choose Unformattted
:
: - if the web page does not specifically identify a language, the text will
: paste in the same language as surrounding text in the Word document.
:
: Hope this helps.
:
: Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
: http://www.shaunakelly.com/word
:
:
: : >I agree that Destionation Formatting should include language. You might
: >want
: > to check next time you do this and ascertain whether it does or not.
: >
: > --
: > Suzanne S. Barnhill
: > Microsoft MVP (Word)
: > Words into Type
: > Fairhope, Alabama USA
:
: > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
: > so
: > all may benefit.
: >
: > : >> Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle. It never occurred to me that copying &
: >> pasting stuff would carry over the dictionary from the copied text.
: >> Understandable, but what a pain! I thought that the default document
: >> settings would be applied - especially as I always select 'Use
: >> Destination
: >> Formatting'... In fact, I don't understand why that is not the case!
: >>
: >> Still, I can see how my docs. get "polluted" (so to speak) with US
: >> spellings. I spend a huge amount of time pasting stuff from
(electronic)
: >> books & websites for essays, so that would be the problem then. But why
: >> doesn't Destination Formatting cover the dictionary? (Wouldn't Paste
: > Special
: >> do just that anyway?)
: >>
: >> I appreciate the reply, Shauna, many thanks indeed.
: >>
: >> Cheers,
: >>
: >> Chris
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >> "Shauna Kelly" wrote in message
: >>
: >> : Hi Chris
: >> :
: >> : First, you must set up Windows, Office and Word so they all use the
UK
: >> : dictionary...
: >> : Second... If you copy and paste from a web site, for example, you
: >> almost
: >> always bring
: >> : US English along with the text. So you need to re-set that text to UK
: >> English
: >> : (Select the text, then Tools > Language). Or, when you paste, do Edit: >> : Paste Special and paste unformatted.
: >> :
: >> :
: >> : Hope this helps.
: >> :
: >> : Shauna Kelly. Microsoft MVP.
: >> : http://www.shaunakelly.com/word
: >> :
: >> :
: >> : "Chris Burson" wrote in message
: >>
: >> : > When spell checking... One minute, the spell check is done against
: >> the
: >> UK
: >> : > dictionary, the next it's the US...
: >>
: >>
: >
:
:
 

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