Word 2004 Key Chord Question

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David Boles

Hi there --

I'm an old Word 2003 and Windows dawg moving over to a MacBook Pro and
Office 2004.

How does one do a CTRL+ENTER in Word 2003 to force a page break in Word
2004 other than pulling it down from the menu bar?

Thanks!

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Michel Bintener

Normally, it's Shift+Enter, but since you're on a laptop, that's not going
to work; try Fn+Shift+Return instead. By the way, you might want to have a
look at Word's help function: if you type in "keyboard shortcuts", it'll
give you a series of useful articles, and also instructions on how to print
a list of shortcut keys, which you should find quite useful. As a general
rule, many, if not most, commands that require Ctrl on Windows machines use
the Cmd (Apple) button on the Mac, e.g. Ctrl+i for italicising text in
WinWord is Cmd+i in MacWord.


Hi there --

I'm an old Word 2003 and Windows dawg moving over to a MacBook Pro and
Office 2004.

How does one do a CTRL+ENTER in Word 2003 to force a page break in Word
2004 other than pulling it down from the menu bar?

Thanks!

db

--
Michel Bintener
Microsoft MVP
Office:Mac (Entourage & Word)

***Always reply to the newsgroup.***
 
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CyberTaz

In addition to Michel's right-on suggestions you may want to assign your own
keystroke since you're using the laptop keyboard.

If you go to Tools>Customize>Customize Keyboard, select Insert from the
Category: list, then locate IsertPageBreak in the list of commands. Either
replace the Shift+Enter keystroke with one you want to use or leave that one
active & assign an additional one of your choice... If you pick one that is
already assigned to something else the dialog will let you know. It's your
choice as to whether you want to override it. If so, click Add, otherwise,
try something else. BTW - you'll probably find that both Cmd+return &
Ctrl+return are unassigned if you want to use one of them.

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
 
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David Boles

Dear Michel --

Thank you for your keen help! Now this is strange. I'm on a MacBook
Pro -- so I have just discovered that SHIFT+ENTER works, but
SHIFT+ENTER/RETURN does not. Is that wacky? Yes, wacky, if you come
from Windows! SMILE!

Oh, and I just tried COMMAND+ENTER and it worked too while
COMMAND+ENTER/RETURN does not.

So the tiny ENTER key on the first row next to the Right Command key is
the "real" ENTER key on a MacBook Pro?

I also see there's no INSERT key on a MacBook Pro or a dedicated
DELETE/BACKSPACE key to delete text from the right. Is there a reason
for that and a way to get around it?

I printed out the Macros list of key commands and I'll pour over the 12
pages now.

Thanks!

db
 
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David Boles

Hi CyberTaz --

As I mentioned to Michel, the MacBook Pro has some surprises when it
comes to keyboards. I know some people re-map their tiny ENTER key, but
now that I see it has real power in Word, I'm not touching it! SMILE!

Thanks,

db
 
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Elliott Roper

David Boles said:
Dear Michel --

Thank you for your keen help! Now this is strange. I'm on a MacBook
Pro -- so I have just discovered that SHIFT+ENTER works, but
SHIFT+ENTER/RETURN does not. Is that wacky? Yes, wacky, if you come
from Windows! SMILE!

( you seem to have missed that gem in Michel's post)
Hold down the fn key if you want the alternative label on those keys.
So fn-shift-return acts the same as shift-(little)enter. (You might
find some programs - not Office - will not respect the little enter
key.)

If you want home or end or page up or page down instead of left right
up down respectively.

You will also find it useful to set "use f1-f12 keys to control
software features" in System Prefs » Keyboard if you intend to use all
the function key wizardry in Word.
Oh, and I just tried COMMAND+ENTER and it worked too while
COMMAND+ENTER/RETURN does not. see above

So the tiny ENTER key on the first row next to the Right Command key is
the "real" ENTER key on a MacBook Pro? yep, but see above

I also see there's no INSERT key on a MacBook Pro or a dedicated
DELETE/BACKSPACE key to delete text from the right. Is there a reason
for that and a way to get around it?
The big delete key below the f12 key should delete from the right
toward the left. If you want to delete forward, hold down the fn key
before you hit the delete key. Alt-delete and fn-alt-delete are useful
exaggerations. The delete whole words back and forward. In almost every
Mac application.

You seem to be shaping up like a proper mouse avoider. Well done!
 
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Michel Bintener

Hi David,

glad I could help. I'm still using a PowerBook, so I'm not sure in how far
the MacBook Pro keyboard is different from mine. But as you've been able to
observe, it really pays off playing around with different key shortcuts; you
usually end up discovering pretty interesting things.

As for your question re the Insert / Delete key: as far as I know, modern
Apple keyboards (even the more extensive desktop ones) simply don't have an
Insert key. I can't give you a reason why, but I can't remember ever missing
that key. As for the forward delete key: that one is usually part of desktop
keyboards, but not laptop keyboards, simply for minimalist reasons. However,
if you hold down the function button (fn) in the lower left corner and then
hit the delete button, you'll get the same effect. I like that concept, I
have to admit: you use only one delete key, so there's no need to have two
separate keys for two very similar and related tasks.


Dear Michel --

Thank you for your keen help! Now this is strange. I'm on a MacBook
Pro -- so I have just discovered that SHIFT+ENTER works, but
SHIFT+ENTER/RETURN does not. Is that wacky? Yes, wacky, if you come
from Windows! SMILE!

Oh, and I just tried COMMAND+ENTER and it worked too while
COMMAND+ENTER/RETURN does not.

So the tiny ENTER key on the first row next to the Right Command key is
the "real" ENTER key on a MacBook Pro?

I also see there's no INSERT key on a MacBook Pro or a dedicated
DELETE/BACKSPACE key to delete text from the right. Is there a reason
for that and a way to get around it?

I printed out the Macros list of key commands and I'll pour over the 12
pages now.

Thanks!

db

--
Michel Bintener
Microsoft MVP
Office:Mac (Entourage & Word)

***Always reply to the newsgroup.***
 
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Clive Huggan

Hello David,

You'll find some useful discussion on allocation of keyboard shortcuts, some
of the main differences between PC Word and Mac Word, and work-arounds for
recent hijacking of well-used default Word keyboard shortcuts by the latest
versions of the Mac OS, in some notes on the way I use Word for the Mac,
titled "Bend Word to Your Will", which are available as a free download from
the Word MVPs' website
(http://word.mvps.org/Mac/Bend/BendWordToYourWill.html).

[Note: "Bend Word to your will" is designed to be used electronically and
most subjects are self-contained dictionary-style entries. If you decide to
read more widely than the item I've referred to, it's important to read the
front end of the document -- especially pages 3 and 5 -- so you can select
some Word settings that will allow you to use the document effectively.]

Cheers,

Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
(My time zone is 5-11 hours different from the US and Europe, so my
follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed)
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