Word 2004 spelling bug

M

Matthew Stevens

If the spelling checker encounters a word with a tracked change inserted
in it (for example, to correct a spelling mistake), the spelling checker
regards the first half of the word, before the insertion, as being
separate from the second half (after the insertion).

Has anyone else found this?
 
E

Elliott Roper

Matthew Stevens said:
If the spelling checker encounters a word with a tracked change inserted
in it (for example, to correct a spelling mistake), the spelling checker
regards the first half of the word, before the insertion, as being
separate from the second half (after the insertion).

Has anyone else found this?

S'truth! Your Word is a mess isn't it?

Works fine here, tested with all the various display changes options.
It always behaves as checking the word after all corrections.

Heh Clive- My test word was "standardise"
 
R

roger

I have this problem too. I have been working in Word X for the
Macintosh which ignores tracked changes when it does the spelling
check. I am now working on a machine which has Word 2004 and I get
exactly the same problem - all my tracked changes are flagged as
spelling errors - I know they are, that's why I changed them. I don't
want to have to accept all my tracked changes before doing a spelling
check. Is this normal behaviour for Word 2004? If so, is there a way to
switch it off?
 
C

Clive Huggan

Hello Roger,

I haven't a clue about how to fix the problem, unfortunately, but since you
asked for one: I have a work-around. (Actually, for me it isn't inherently
an individual work-around as such: it's one of many practices that I and
other document development professionals follow with Word to minimize the
chances of Word taking out retribution on us. :)

I personally don't like to use tracked changes, for a multitude of reasons.*
When I get a document from someone else I Accept All immediately, to remove
any traces, then I make my changes without tracking.

After I've finished, I choose Tools menu => Track Changes => Compare
Documents and look at the changes from there (or send both the tracked and
untracked versions of the document to others), but keeping the main version
free of tracking.

This method, which I get my colleagues to follow too, always ensures "rats'
nests" are avoided, because the main document we work on is kept pristine
(as far as *any* Word document can be)...


* You really want to know what the reasons are?: It can wreak havoc with
automatic numbering (which includes automatic bulleting). It can interfere
with deleting footnotes. Tables especially can become corrupted. When tables
have been modified with a change in font size and "Accept Change" or "Accept
All Changes" has been nominated, these changes are not accepted and stay
visible in the document when viewed as Final Showing Markup ‹ you have to
"select all" in the tables (and text boxes, etc) to have them approved.
There are more potential problems in relation to merged documents. And there
can be problems associated with paragraph marks. At the lower end of the
inconvenience scale, you will often find spaces removed or unwanted spaces
added.

The reasons: To quote John McGhie: "A Word document internally is an
indescribably complex rat's nest of binary pointers. Each tracked change
sets a heap of extra pointers, to the beginning and end of the deleted text,
and the beginning and end of the new text. If those pointers occur within
pointers ... what you end up with is a document that is so complex that Word
can't unravel it. It's a limitation of the Word document format, which was
designed for simpler times when computers were smaller and slower, and so
were documents."


Cheers,

Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
(My time zone is 5-11 hours different from the US and Europe, so my
follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed)
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John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]

Hi Roger:

If Word is working correctly and your document is not corrupt, Tracked
Changes will correctly process changed words.

If the word "will be" correct after the change is resolved, it will be
flagged as OK. If the word "will be" wrong after the change has been
resolved, it will be flagged as wrong now.

If change tracking was on when you made your changes, your additions or
deletions will be marked as changes. But the red and green wavy lines will
be correctly placed.

If the document is corrupt, generally, spell checking won't work "at all".
So normally, if a word is flagged as wrong, it IS wrong. With tracked
changes on, the challenge is to see "why" it's wrong. It's usually a space
that is not going to be deleted when the change is resolved.

For this reason, I normally avoid character-level change tracking. Either
re-type the entire word, or do as Clive suggests: accept all tracked changes
when you get the document, edit to your heart's content with tracked changes
OFF, then leave tracked changes off and use Compare Documents.

Compare Documents will insert each difference as a tracked change (if you
read the Help to see how...). It is generally very accurate, but it does
not do well if either the old or new versions already contained tracked
changes before you compare. On long documents, it also helps to remove the
Table of Contents and Index before the compare. There's a hard limit of 750
characters on the size of change resulting from recalculating a "Field",
after which Compare Documents can become unreliable. A TOC for a long
document is usually bigger than that: -- Cut it, Save, Compare the
Documents, then Paste the TOC back in :)

Hope this helps

I have this problem too. I have been working in Word X for the
Macintosh which ignores tracked changes when it does the spelling
check. I am now working on a machine which has Word 2004 and I get
exactly the same problem - all my tracked changes are flagged as
spelling errors - I know they are, that's why I changed them. I don't
want to have to accept all my tracked changes before doing a spelling
check. Is this normal behaviour for Word 2004? If so, is there a way to
switch it off?

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me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <[email protected]>
Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Consultant Technical Writer
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410
 
R

roger

Thanks for the replies to my post. I guess my file must be corrupted
somewhere, or at least contain a flag that makes Word 2004 treat it
differently from Word X. Anyway I accepted all of the tracked changes
and the spell checker now behaves normally - except if I start to check
the document again it highlights all of the spelling changes that it
previously made!

Also, if I do a Find in the document it finds instances of the text
which have been deleted or changed. Just what is going on?

Roger
 
B

Beth Rosengard

Hi Roger,

I can't remember ... did you yet try uncorrupting the document itself? If
not, copy all but the very last paragraph mark and paste into a blank new
document window. Is there any improvement in the new doc?

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Beth Rosengard
MacOffice MVP

Mac Word FAQ: <http://word.mvps.org/Mac/WordMacHome.html>
 

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