Word 2007 beta and paper sizes

[roman modic]

Hello!

I'm testing Word 2007 with disabled Windows XP.SP2
print spooler. Why in this case only six paper sizes are
available (Letter, A4, Legal, A3, B4, B5)?
Fortunately, "custom size" option is available...
For example, why there is no A5? I think that available
paper sizes should not depend on locally installed
printers (for example, I can edit document locally and
then print it via remote desktop). So, this KB (166016)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/166016/EN-US/
is not entirely true, isn't it? :>

"Use printer metrics to lay out document"

If this option is *enabled*, Word will
use the information from the printer
driver that is installed as in some
earlier versions of Word.

If this option is *disabled* (default),
Word will use build-in metrics to lay
out the document. This means your
document will look the same no matter
what printer driver is installed.

Regards, Roman

 

[Patrick Schmid]

I have to wonder why your print spooler is disabled. That doesn't sound
like a normal or advisable configuration to me.

Patrick Schmid
--------------
http://pschmid.net

Hello!

I'm testing Word 2007 with disabled Windows XP.SP2
print spooler. Why in this case only six paper sizes are
available (Letter, A4, Legal, A3, B4, B5)?
Fortunately, "custom size" option is available...
For example, why there is no A5? I think that available
paper sizes should not depend on locally installed
printers (for example, I can edit document locally and
then print it via remote desktop). So, this KB (166016)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/166016/EN-US/
is not entirely true, isn't it? :>

"Use printer metrics to lay out document"

If this option is *enabled*, Word will
use the information from the printer
driver that is installed as in some
earlier versions of Word.

If this option is *disabled* (default),
Word will use build-in metrics to lay
out the document. This means your
document will look the same no matter
what printer driver is installed.

Regards, Roman

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Roman,

Hmmm, not sure why you picked the Word 97 (ten year old version of that article <g>) but page layout in Word does rely on reading
the printer driver selected in File=>Print and its capabilities and presets. The feature you're referring to has to do with the
layout (spacing) of the text within the page boundaries of a given page size, not to a specific page size availability.

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Hello!

I'm testing Word 2007 with disabled Windows XP.SP2
print spooler. Why in this case only six paper sizes are
available (Letter, A4, Legal, A3, B4, B5)?
Fortunately, "custom size" option is available...
For example, why there is no A5? I think that available
paper sizes should not depend on locally installed
printers (for example, I can edit document locally and
then print it via remote desktop). So, this KB (166016)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/166016/EN-US/
is not entirely true, isn't it? :>

"Use printer metrics to lay out document"

If this option is *enabled*, Word will
use the information from the printer
driver that is installed as in some
earlier versions of Word.

If this option is *disabled* (default),
Word will use build-in metrics to lay
out the document. This means your
document will look the same no matter
what printer driver is installed.

Regards, Roman >>
--
I hope this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office system products MVP

LINKS to the 2007 Office System

1. Free MS Office 2007 book from MS Press, 213 pages:
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2.. Office 2007 Beta 2 Online Test Drive, Downloadable beta,
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3. Send 2007 Office System Beta 2 feedback directly to the MS Office 2007 product team with this feedback tool:
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a. Install the ActiveX access control
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b. then visit
http://officebeta.iponet.net

 

[roman modic]

Hello!

I have to wonder why your print spooler is disabled. That doesn't sound like a normal or advisable configuration to me.

Eh, just an experiment!
http://doknir.blogspot.com/2006/07/crystal-reports.html
http://doknir.blogspot.com/2006/08/spoolsvexe.html

doknir (dokument nirvana) - Microsoft Windows Print Spooler
Service Replacement (view and print documents in virtual appliance)
http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/493

Regards, Roman

 

[roman modic]

Hello!

I have to wonder why your print spooler is disabled. That doesn't sound like a normal or advisable configuration to me.

BTW, for paper sizes IMHO it is not important whether
print spooler is running or not, because they are standardized:
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html

Moreover, the following constants are available in Windows API (42 of them):
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vb98/html/vbpropapersize.asp

1 = vbPRPSLetter = Letter, 8 1/2 x 11 in.
2 = vbPRPSLetterSmall = Letter Small, 8 1/2 x 11 in.
....
8 = vbPRPSA3 = A3, 297 x 420 mm
9 = vbPRPSA4 = A4, 210 x 297 mm
10 = vbPRPSA4Small = A4 Small, 210 x 297 mm
11 = vbPRPSA5 = A5, 148 x 210 mm
....
39 = vbPRPSFanfoldUS = U.S. Standard Fanfold, 14 7/8 x 11 in.
40 = vbPRPSFanfoldStdGerman = German Standard Fanfold, 8 1/2 x 12 in.
41 = vbPRPSFanfoldLglGerman = German Legal Fanfold, 8 1/2 x 13 in.
256 = vbPRPSUser = User-defined

http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/pub0009/LPMArticle.asp?ID=132

Quite frankly, this is a horrid mess, and I cannot imagine why Microsoft chose to implement a set of paper size codes in Word that
is different from those already standardised for use in Windows.

Regards, Roman

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Roman,

Word takes its information from the currently selected printer driver. Not all printer drivers are capable of or have implemented
all possible paper sizes. Word is text reflow software, rather than page layout software. Generally It adapts text to match the
printing capabilities of the person opening the document on their computer.

The ISO 'International' metric standards you linked to, while common outside of the U.S.are not generally the standards in use in
the U.S.

The author of the article you linked to, Jonathan West, can usually be reached through the Word VBA newsgroups for addtional
discussion on this topic. He's quite familiar with it as his software creates enhanced PDF files from Word. There's a link to the
Word VBA news/discussion group below.

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Hello!

I have to wonder why your print spooler is disabled. That doesn't sound like a normal or advisable configuration to me.

BTW, for paper sizes IMHO it is not important whether
print spooler is running or not, because they are standardized:
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/iso-paper.html

Moreover, the following constants are available in Windows API (42 of them):
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vb98/html/vbpropapersize.asp

1 = vbPRPSLetter = Letter, 8 1/2 x 11 in.
2 = vbPRPSLetterSmall = Letter Small, 8 1/2 x 11 in.
....
8 = vbPRPSA3 = A3, 297 x 420 mm
9 = vbPRPSA4 = A4, 210 x 297 mm
10 = vbPRPSA4Small = A4 Small, 210 x 297 mm
11 = vbPRPSA5 = A5, 148 x 210 mm
....
39 = vbPRPSFanfoldUS = U.S. Standard Fanfold, 14 7/8 x 11 in.
40 = vbPRPSFanfoldStdGerman = German Standard Fanfold, 8 1/2 x 12 in.
41 = vbPRPSFanfoldLglGerman = German Legal Fanfold, 8 1/2 x 13 in.
256 = vbPRPSUser = User-defined

http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/pub0009/LPMArticle.asp?ID=132

Quite frankly, this is a horrid mess, and I cannot imagine why Microsoft chose to implement a set of paper size codes in Word that
is different from those already standardised for use in Windows.

Regards, Roman>>
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Please let us know if this has helped,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

LINKS
A. Specific newsgroup/discussion group mentioned in this message:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.word.vba.general
or via browser:
http://microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/?dg=microsoft.public.word.vba.general

B. MS Office Community discussion/newsgroups via Web Browser
http://microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx
or
Microsoft hosted newsgroups via Outlook Express/newsreader
news://msnews.microsoft.com