Word 2007 Crashes Intermittently

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oldman

At various times when I open Word2007 the program crashes with the
following data reported. If I reboot the computer and then try to
open word2007 about 90% of the time it will open fine. I am not sure
what causes this crash. I have not changed any printer settings. As
far as I can tell all of my drivers are ok and have not changed any
hardware in months this has been going on since my vista system was
setup about 18 months ago. Can someone give me an idea as to what I
might try to get rid of this problem permanently. Thanks.




Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: WINWORD.EXE
Application Version: 12.0.6425.1000
Application Timestamp: 49d64d22
Fault Module Name: StackHash_4f0d
Fault Module Version: 6.0.6001.18000
Fault Module Timestamp: 4791a7a6
Exception Code: c0000374
Exception Offset: 000b015d
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.6
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 4f0d
Additional Information 2: e4eb2328cd351439ccd64a770cd0dbb3
Additional Information 3: ad4c
Additional Information 4: 7cbd28104f0ca68ab6cfc50acf7aacd8

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T

Terry Farrell

I've not seen this particular error but errors of these types are usually
due to one of these problems:

1. Corrupt normal.dotm (rename it as normal.bad and Word will recreate it
automatically)

2. Corrupt Data Key at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Word\Data. Run Regedit,
navigate to the key and whilst DATA is selected, press DELETE.

3. Corrupt printer driver. Check that you have the latest printer driver
from the manufacturer's support site and then delete and reinstall the
printer.

Assuming one of these fixes the problem, clean up after all those failures:
see http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm for what to do.
 
O

oldman

Tom,

I did a search for the file normal.dotm and Vista did not find a file
by that name so could you tell me in which folder it should be located
unless the name is not what you wrote.

I want to take the fixes one at a time starting with your first fix.

Thanks
oldgray
 
D

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

It will be located in the following folder:

C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
 
T

Terry Farrell

And if you still cannot see it, go to the Windows Explorer options and
disable the 'Hide File Extensions...' setting and select 'Show System and
Hidden files' option.

Terry

Doug Robbins - Word MVP said:
It will be located in the following folder:

C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
Tom,

I did a search for the file normal.dotm and Vista did not find a file
by that name so could you tell me in which folder it should be located
unless the name is not what you wrote.

I want to take the fixes one at a time starting with your first fix.

Thanks
oldgray
 
O

oldman

I followed your instructions and went to the location indicated.
However, I only see normal.doc and normal.bak. Could my word problem
be that I am running in word2003 mode so that I can transfer files to
users that are running office2003?

Thanks for the help,
oldman




And if you still cannot see it, go to the Windows Explorer options and
disable the 'Hide File Extensions...' setting and select 'Show System and
Hidden files' option.

Terry

Doug Robbins - Word MVP said:
It will be located in the following folder:

C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
Tom,

I did a search for the file normal.dotm and Vista did not find a file
by that name so could you tell me in which folder it should be located
unless the name is not what you wrote.

I want to take the fixes one at a time starting with your first fix.

Thanks
oldgray



On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:27:22 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

I've not seen this particular error but errors of these types are usually
due to one of these problems:

1. Corrupt normal.dotm (rename it as normal.bad and Word will recreate
it
automatically)

2. Corrupt Data Key at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Word\Data. Run Regedit,
navigate to the key and whilst DATA is selected, press DELETE.

3. Corrupt printer driver. Check that you have the latest printer
driver
from the manufacturer's support site and then delete and reinstall the
printer.

Assuming one of these fixes the problem, clean up after all those
failures:
see http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm for what to
do.
 
T

Terry Farrell

There is no such animal as normal.doc (for Word 2007), not even in previous
versions of Word: normal.bak is irrelevant. I suggest you rename one as
normal.bad and the other as normal.ba1.

Then restart Word 2007 and try changing the fonts again. If it still fails,
what fonts are you using and why are you using Word 2003 compatibility mode?

Terry

I followed your instructions and went to the location indicated.
However, I only see normal.doc and normal.bak. Could my word problem
be that I am running in word2003 mode so that I can transfer files to
users that are running office2003?

Thanks for the help,
oldman




And if you still cannot see it, go to the Windows Explorer options and
disable the 'Hide File Extensions...' setting and select 'Show System and
Hidden files' option.

Terry

Doug Robbins - Word MVP said:
It will be located in the following folder:

C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
Tom,

I did a search for the file normal.dotm and Vista did not find a file
by that name so could you tell me in which folder it should be located
unless the name is not what you wrote.

I want to take the fixes one at a time starting with your first fix.

Thanks
oldgray



On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:27:22 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

I've not seen this particular error but errors of these types are
usually
due to one of these problems:

1. Corrupt normal.dotm (rename it as normal.bad and Word will
recreate
it
automatically)

2. Corrupt Data Key at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Word\Data. Run
Regedit,
navigate to the key and whilst DATA is selected, press DELETE.

3. Corrupt printer driver. Check that you have the latest printer
driver
from the manufacturer's support site and then delete and reinstall the
printer.

Assuming one of these fixes the problem, clean up after all those
failures:
see http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm for what to
do.
 
O

oldman

Hi once more,

I am looking at the folder:
C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

Inside of that folder are two other folder Charts and Document Themes.
Under Document Themes there are three other folders :
Themes Colors, Theme Effects and Theme Fonts. all of these folders are
empty. Under the Templates folder as files are :~$Normal.old,
Manufacturing output histogram.xlt,Normal.bak and Normal.doc. that is
all.

I went into the Word preferences and changed the font in Font
Substitution to Ariel 12.

After your last note I changed Normal.doc to Normal.ba1 but when word
was opened it recreated the Normal.doc file. I just changed it once
more and we will see what happens. Is Normal.dotm due to Word2007
file format?

We hopefully will get this solved.

oldman


There is no such animal as normal.doc (for Word 2007), not even in previous
versions of Word: normal.bak is irrelevant. I suggest you rename one as
normal.bad and the other as normal.ba1.

Then restart Word 2007 and try changing the fonts again. If it still fails,
what fonts are you using and why are you using Word 2003 compatibility mode?

Terry

I followed your instructions and went to the location indicated.
However, I only see normal.doc and normal.bak. Could my word problem
be that I am running in word2003 mode so that I can transfer files to
users that are running office2003?

Thanks for the help,
oldman




And if you still cannot see it, go to the Windows Explorer options and
disable the 'Hide File Extensions...' setting and select 'Show System and
Hidden files' option.

Terry

It will be located in the following folder:

C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
Tom,

I did a search for the file normal.dotm and Vista did not find a file
by that name so could you tell me in which folder it should be located
unless the name is not what you wrote.

I want to take the fixes one at a time starting with your first fix.

Thanks
oldgray



On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:27:22 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

I've not seen this particular error but errors of these types are
usually
due to one of these problems:

1. Corrupt normal.dotm (rename it as normal.bad and Word will
recreate
it
automatically)

2. Corrupt Data Key at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Word\Data. Run
Regedit,
navigate to the key and whilst DATA is selected, press DELETE.

3. Corrupt printer driver. Check that you have the latest printer
driver
from the manufacturer's support site and then delete and reinstall the
printer.

Assuming one of these fixes the problem, clean up after all those
failures:
see http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm for what to
do.
 
T

Terry Farrell

Are you sure you are using Word 2007? Why did you change the font
substitution? normal.dotm is the equivalent of the previous normal.dot. It
has NEVER been normal.doc. If you are definitely using Word 2007, go to Word
Options | Resources tab and choose the DIAGNOSTICS option.

I asked before, why are you using compatibility mode?

Terry

Hi once more,

I am looking at the folder:
C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

Inside of that folder are two other folder Charts and Document Themes.
Under Document Themes there are three other folders :
Themes Colors, Theme Effects and Theme Fonts. all of these folders are
empty. Under the Templates folder as files are :~$Normal.old,
Manufacturing output histogram.xlt,Normal.bak and Normal.doc. that is
all.

I went into the Word preferences and changed the font in Font
Substitution to Ariel 12.

After your last note I changed Normal.doc to Normal.ba1 but when word
was opened it recreated the Normal.doc file. I just changed it once
more and we will see what happens. Is Normal.dotm due to Word2007
file format?

We hopefully will get this solved.

oldman


There is no such animal as normal.doc (for Word 2007), not even in
previous
versions of Word: normal.bak is irrelevant. I suggest you rename one as
normal.bad and the other as normal.ba1.

Then restart Word 2007 and try changing the fonts again. If it still
fails,
what fonts are you using and why are you using Word 2003 compatibility
mode?

Terry

I followed your instructions and went to the location indicated.
However, I only see normal.doc and normal.bak. Could my word problem
be that I am running in word2003 mode so that I can transfer files to
users that are running office2003?

Thanks for the help,
oldman




On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:19:55 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

And if you still cannot see it, go to the Windows Explorer options and
disable the 'Hide File Extensions...' setting and select 'Show System
and
Hidden files' option.

Terry

It will be located in the following folder:

C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
Tom,

I did a search for the file normal.dotm and Vista did not find a file
by that name so could you tell me in which folder it should be
located
unless the name is not what you wrote.

I want to take the fixes one at a time starting with your first fix.

Thanks
oldgray



On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:27:22 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

I've not seen this particular error but errors of these types are
usually
due to one of these problems:

1. Corrupt normal.dotm (rename it as normal.bad and Word will
recreate
it
automatically)

2. Corrupt Data Key at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Word\Data. Run
Regedit,
navigate to the key and whilst DATA is selected, press DELETE.

3. Corrupt printer driver. Check that you have the latest printer
driver
from the manufacturer's support site and then delete and reinstall
the
printer.

Assuming one of these fixes the problem, clean up after all those
failures:
see http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm for what
to
do.
 
O

oldman

Terry,

I am running Office2007. I have just zipped the normal.doc and
normal.bak and then deleted both files. On my computer there is no
file named normal.dotm. I have changed the options to use word 2007
file format. The font I have set is Ariel 12pt. The real puzzle is
the normal.dotm file that is not on my computer.

Just ran the Diagnostics option from word and nothing came up bad.
However, when I went to option screen the following came up but can
not get to the file it wants me to go get. It will take a few days
till the download is accomplished per the Microsoft site.

Update Diagnostic — Unable to access a required file
The Update Diagnostic was unable to run because it requires a file
that you have chosen not to download. To give Microsoft Office
permission to download this file, do one of the following in one of
these 2007 Office release programs:


I was using the 2003 comparability format so I could sent files to
people still using office2003.

My next thing I guess is to wait till the problem file is downloaded.
However, the file normal.dotm mystery remains.

Again thanks for the help.

oldgray













Are you sure you are using Word 2007? Why did you change the font
substitution? normal.dotm is the equivalent of the previous normal.dot. It
has NEVER been normal.doc. If you are definitely using Word 2007, go to Word
Options | Resources tab and choose the DIAGNOSTICS option.

I asked before, why are you using compatibility mode?

Terry

Hi once more,

I am looking at the folder:
C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

Inside of that folder are two other folder Charts and Document Themes.
Under Document Themes there are three other folders :
Themes Colors, Theme Effects and Theme Fonts. all of these folders are
empty. Under the Templates folder as files are :~$Normal.old,
Manufacturing output histogram.xlt,Normal.bak and Normal.doc. that is
all.

I went into the Word preferences and changed the font in Font
Substitution to Ariel 12.

After your last note I changed Normal.doc to Normal.ba1 but when word
was opened it recreated the Normal.doc file. I just changed it once
more and we will see what happens. Is Normal.dotm due to Word2007
file format?

We hopefully will get this solved.

oldman


There is no such animal as normal.doc (for Word 2007), not even in
previous
versions of Word: normal.bak is irrelevant. I suggest you rename one as
normal.bad and the other as normal.ba1.

Then restart Word 2007 and try changing the fonts again. If it still
fails,
what fonts are you using and why are you using Word 2003 compatibility
mode?

Terry

I followed your instructions and went to the location indicated.
However, I only see normal.doc and normal.bak. Could my word problem
be that I am running in word2003 mode so that I can transfer files to
users that are running office2003?

Thanks for the help,
oldman




On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:19:55 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

And if you still cannot see it, go to the Windows Explorer options and
disable the 'Hide File Extensions...' setting and select 'Show System
and
Hidden files' option.

Terry

It will be located in the following folder:

C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
Tom,

I did a search for the file normal.dotm and Vista did not find a file
by that name so could you tell me in which folder it should be
located
unless the name is not what you wrote.

I want to take the fixes one at a time starting with your first fix.

Thanks
oldgray



On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:27:22 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

I've not seen this particular error but errors of these types are
usually
due to one of these problems:

1. Corrupt normal.dotm (rename it as normal.bad and Word will
recreate
it
automatically)

2. Corrupt Data Key at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Word\Data. Run
Regedit,
navigate to the key and whilst DATA is selected, press DELETE.

3. Corrupt printer driver. Check that you have the latest printer
driver
from the manufacturer's support site and then delete and reinstall
the
printer.

Assuming one of these fixes the problem, clean up after all those
failures:
see http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm for what
to
do.
 
T

Terry Farrell

In Windows Explorer, make sure that under Folder Options | View tab, Show
Hidden Files and Folders is checked and that 'Hide extensions for known file
types' and 'Hide protected operating systems files' are both unchecked. That
will ensure normal.dotm will show up.

Then open Word and go to the Font settings dialog and change the font or
font size and press the DEFAULT button at the bottom of the dialog. Now
close Word. Note that when you close Word you should get a prompt to save
changes to the global template: answer Yes. Use Explorer to navigate to
Users | Username | App Data | Roaming | Microsoft | Templates and look for
normal.dotm now. If it is not in that location, open Word again and go to
Word Options | Advance tab and down at the very bottom select File
Locations. Confirm that the User Templates folder is pointing to the
location above.

If that fails to generate the normal.dotm, it may be add-in that is
incompatible with Word 2007. Is Office 2007 an upgrade from an older version
or a clean install on a new computer?

Terry

PS Users without Word 2007 may download the FREE Office 2007 compatibility
pack for Office 2000 to 2003, which will let them open Office 2007 formats
files: it will also give them all the new font sets to ensure 100%
compatibility.


Terry,

I am running Office2007. I have just zipped the normal.doc and
normal.bak and then deleted both files. On my computer there is no
file named normal.dotm. I have changed the options to use word 2007
file format. The font I have set is Ariel 12pt. The real puzzle is
the normal.dotm file that is not on my computer.

Just ran the Diagnostics option from word and nothing came up bad.
However, when I went to option screen the following came up but can
not get to the file it wants me to go get. It will take a few days
till the download is accomplished per the Microsoft site.

Update Diagnostic - Unable to access a required file
The Update Diagnostic was unable to run because it requires a file
that you have chosen not to download. To give Microsoft Office
permission to download this file, do one of the following in one of
these 2007 Office release programs:


I was using the 2003 comparability format so I could sent files to
people still using office2003.

My next thing I guess is to wait till the problem file is downloaded.
However, the file normal.dotm mystery remains.

Again thanks for the help.

oldgray













Are you sure you are using Word 2007? Why did you change the font
substitution? normal.dotm is the equivalent of the previous normal.dot. It
has NEVER been normal.doc. If you are definitely using Word 2007, go to
Word
Options | Resources tab and choose the DIAGNOSTICS option.

I asked before, why are you using compatibility mode?

Terry

Hi once more,

I am looking at the folder:
C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

Inside of that folder are two other folder Charts and Document Themes.
Under Document Themes there are three other folders :
Themes Colors, Theme Effects and Theme Fonts. all of these folders are
empty. Under the Templates folder as files are :~$Normal.old,
Manufacturing output histogram.xlt,Normal.bak and Normal.doc. that is
all.

I went into the Word preferences and changed the font in Font
Substitution to Ariel 12.

After your last note I changed Normal.doc to Normal.ba1 but when word
was opened it recreated the Normal.doc file. I just changed it once
more and we will see what happens. Is Normal.dotm due to Word2007
file format?

We hopefully will get this solved.

oldman


On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:22:37 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

There is no such animal as normal.doc (for Word 2007), not even in
previous
versions of Word: normal.bak is irrelevant. I suggest you rename one as
normal.bad and the other as normal.ba1.

Then restart Word 2007 and try changing the fonts again. If it still
fails,
what fonts are you using and why are you using Word 2003 compatibility
mode?

Terry

I followed your instructions and went to the location indicated.
However, I only see normal.doc and normal.bak. Could my word problem
be that I am running in word2003 mode so that I can transfer files to
users that are running office2003?

Thanks for the help,
oldman




On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:19:55 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

And if you still cannot see it, go to the Windows Explorer options and
disable the 'Hide File Extensions...' setting and select 'Show System
and
Hidden files' option.

Terry

It will be located in the following folder:

C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of
my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
Tom,

I did a search for the file normal.dotm and Vista did not find a
file
by that name so could you tell me in which folder it should be
located
unless the name is not what you wrote.

I want to take the fixes one at a time starting with your first
fix.

Thanks
oldgray



On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:27:22 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

I've not seen this particular error but errors of these types are
usually
due to one of these problems:

1. Corrupt normal.dotm (rename it as normal.bad and Word will
recreate
it
automatically)

2. Corrupt Data Key at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Word\Data. Run
Regedit,
navigate to the key and whilst DATA is selected, press DELETE.

3. Corrupt printer driver. Check that you have the latest
printer
driver
from the manufacturer's support site and then delete and reinstall
the
printer.

Assuming one of these fixes the problem, clean up after all those
failures:
see http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm for what
to
do.
 
O

oldman

Terry,

Good morning.

I had a friend send me the missing normal.dotm file and placed it in
the fold that you indicated it should have been. Followed your steps
and the file has now been accessed and the date changed.

I also set the option for both word and excel to periodically check
for updates it the options. Next week I will see if when I run the
diagnostics any files were change since there is one error message
about some sketch file missing and me not having administrative
privileges to make updates.

The office 2007 install was clean not an upgrade

With the dotm file now in the folder I will have to see if the crash
message no longer appears.

Thanks for the help.

oldgray




In Windows Explorer, make sure that under Folder Options | View tab, Show
Hidden Files and Folders is checked and that 'Hide extensions for known file
types' and 'Hide protected operating systems files' are both unchecked. That
will ensure normal.dotm will show up.

Then open Word and go to the Font settings dialog and change the font or
font size and press the DEFAULT button at the bottom of the dialog. Now
close Word. Note that when you close Word you should get a prompt to save
changes to the global template: answer Yes. Use Explorer to navigate to
Users | Username | App Data | Roaming | Microsoft | Templates and look for
normal.dotm now. If it is not in that location, open Word again and go to
Word Options | Advance tab and down at the very bottom select File
Locations. Confirm that the User Templates folder is pointing to the
location above.

If that fails to generate the normal.dotm, it may be add-in that is
incompatible with Word 2007. Is Office 2007 an upgrade from an older version
or a clean install on a new computer?

Terry

PS Users without Word 2007 may download the FREE Office 2007 compatibility
pack for Office 2000 to 2003, which will let them open Office 2007 formats
files: it will also give them all the new font sets to ensure 100%
compatibility.


Terry,

I am running Office2007. I have just zipped the normal.doc and
normal.bak and then deleted both files. On my computer there is no
file named normal.dotm. I have changed the options to use word 2007
file format. The font I have set is Ariel 12pt. The real puzzle is
the normal.dotm file that is not on my computer.

Just ran the Diagnostics option from word and nothing came up bad.
However, when I went to option screen the following came up but can
not get to the file it wants me to go get. It will take a few days
till the download is accomplished per the Microsoft site.

Update Diagnostic - Unable to access a required file
The Update Diagnostic was unable to run because it requires a file
that you have chosen not to download. To give Microsoft Office
permission to download this file, do one of the following in one of
these 2007 Office release programs:


I was using the 2003 comparability format so I could sent files to
people still using office2003.

My next thing I guess is to wait till the problem file is downloaded.
However, the file normal.dotm mystery remains.

Again thanks for the help.

oldgray













Are you sure you are using Word 2007? Why did you change the font
substitution? normal.dotm is the equivalent of the previous normal.dot. It
has NEVER been normal.doc. If you are definitely using Word 2007, go to
Word
Options | Resources tab and choose the DIAGNOSTICS option.

I asked before, why are you using compatibility mode?

Terry

Hi once more,

I am looking at the folder:
C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

Inside of that folder are two other folder Charts and Document Themes.
Under Document Themes there are three other folders :
Themes Colors, Theme Effects and Theme Fonts. all of these folders are
empty. Under the Templates folder as files are :~$Normal.old,
Manufacturing output histogram.xlt,Normal.bak and Normal.doc. that is
all.

I went into the Word preferences and changed the font in Font
Substitution to Ariel 12.

After your last note I changed Normal.doc to Normal.ba1 but when word
was opened it recreated the Normal.doc file. I just changed it once
more and we will see what happens. Is Normal.dotm due to Word2007
file format?

We hopefully will get this solved.

oldman


On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:22:37 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

There is no such animal as normal.doc (for Word 2007), not even in
previous
versions of Word: normal.bak is irrelevant. I suggest you rename one as
normal.bad and the other as normal.ba1.

Then restart Word 2007 and try changing the fonts again. If it still
fails,
what fonts are you using and why are you using Word 2003 compatibility
mode?

Terry

I followed your instructions and went to the location indicated.
However, I only see normal.doc and normal.bak. Could my word problem
be that I am running in word2003 mode so that I can transfer files to
users that are running office2003?

Thanks for the help,
oldman




On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:19:55 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

And if you still cannot see it, go to the Windows Explorer options and
disable the 'Hide File Extensions...' setting and select 'Show System
and
Hidden files' option.

Terry

It will be located in the following folder:

C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of
my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
Tom,

I did a search for the file normal.dotm and Vista did not find a
file
by that name so could you tell me in which folder it should be
located
unless the name is not what you wrote.

I want to take the fixes one at a time starting with your first
fix.

Thanks
oldgray



On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:27:22 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

I've not seen this particular error but errors of these types are
usually
due to one of these problems:

1. Corrupt normal.dotm (rename it as normal.bad and Word will
recreate
it
automatically)

2. Corrupt Data Key at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Word\Data. Run
Regedit,
navigate to the key and whilst DATA is selected, press DELETE.

3. Corrupt printer driver. Check that you have the latest
printer
driver
from the manufacturer's support site and then delete and reinstall
the
printer.

Assuming one of these fixes the problem, clean up after all those
failures:
see http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm for what
to
do.
 
T

Terry Farrell

The test to see if this is working is to make a simple change such as to the
default font (as described in my previous post) and then close Word and
check the date/time stamp of the normal.dotm file. If it doesn't change to
the current date/time you still have a problem. Bringing in a copy of
normal.dotm is not fixing the problem. The problem is that Word is not
creating a normal.dotm.

Terry

Terry,

Good morning.

I had a friend send me the missing normal.dotm file and placed it in
the fold that you indicated it should have been. Followed your steps
and the file has now been accessed and the date changed.

I also set the option for both word and excel to periodically check
for updates it the options. Next week I will see if when I run the
diagnostics any files were change since there is one error message
about some sketch file missing and me not having administrative
privileges to make updates.

The office 2007 install was clean not an upgrade

With the dotm file now in the folder I will have to see if the crash
message no longer appears.

Thanks for the help.

oldgray




In Windows Explorer, make sure that under Folder Options | View tab, Show
Hidden Files and Folders is checked and that 'Hide extensions for known
file
types' and 'Hide protected operating systems files' are both unchecked.
That
will ensure normal.dotm will show up.

Then open Word and go to the Font settings dialog and change the font or
font size and press the DEFAULT button at the bottom of the dialog. Now
close Word. Note that when you close Word you should get a prompt to save
changes to the global template: answer Yes. Use Explorer to navigate to
Users | Username | App Data | Roaming | Microsoft | Templates and look for
normal.dotm now. If it is not in that location, open Word again and go to
Word Options | Advance tab and down at the very bottom select File
Locations. Confirm that the User Templates folder is pointing to the
location above.

If that fails to generate the normal.dotm, it may be add-in that is
incompatible with Word 2007. Is Office 2007 an upgrade from an older
version
or a clean install on a new computer?

Terry

PS Users without Word 2007 may download the FREE Office 2007 compatibility
pack for Office 2000 to 2003, which will let them open Office 2007 formats
files: it will also give them all the new font sets to ensure 100%
compatibility.


Terry,

I am running Office2007. I have just zipped the normal.doc and
normal.bak and then deleted both files. On my computer there is no
file named normal.dotm. I have changed the options to use word 2007
file format. The font I have set is Ariel 12pt. The real puzzle is
the normal.dotm file that is not on my computer.

Just ran the Diagnostics option from word and nothing came up bad.
However, when I went to option screen the following came up but can
not get to the file it wants me to go get. It will take a few days
till the download is accomplished per the Microsoft site.

Update Diagnostic - Unable to access a required file
The Update Diagnostic was unable to run because it requires a file
that you have chosen not to download. To give Microsoft Office
permission to download this file, do one of the following in one of
these 2007 Office release programs:


I was using the 2003 comparability format so I could sent files to
people still using office2003.

My next thing I guess is to wait till the problem file is downloaded.
However, the file normal.dotm mystery remains.

Again thanks for the help.

oldgray













On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:19:57 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

Are you sure you are using Word 2007? Why did you change the font
substitution? normal.dotm is the equivalent of the previous normal.dot.
It
has NEVER been normal.doc. If you are definitely using Word 2007, go to
Word
Options | Resources tab and choose the DIAGNOSTICS option.

I asked before, why are you using compatibility mode?

Terry

Hi once more,

I am looking at the folder:
C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

Inside of that folder are two other folder Charts and Document Themes.
Under Document Themes there are three other folders :
Themes Colors, Theme Effects and Theme Fonts. all of these folders are
empty. Under the Templates folder as files are :~$Normal.old,
Manufacturing output histogram.xlt,Normal.bak and Normal.doc. that is
all.

I went into the Word preferences and changed the font in Font
Substitution to Ariel 12.

After your last note I changed Normal.doc to Normal.ba1 but when word
was opened it recreated the Normal.doc file. I just changed it once
more and we will see what happens. Is Normal.dotm due to Word2007
file format?

We hopefully will get this solved.

oldman


On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:22:37 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

There is no such animal as normal.doc (for Word 2007), not even in
previous
versions of Word: normal.bak is irrelevant. I suggest you rename one
as
normal.bad and the other as normal.ba1.

Then restart Word 2007 and try changing the fonts again. If it still
fails,
what fonts are you using and why are you using Word 2003 compatibility
mode?

Terry

I followed your instructions and went to the location indicated.
However, I only see normal.doc and normal.bak. Could my word
problem
be that I am running in word2003 mode so that I can transfer files
to
users that are running office2003?

Thanks for the help,
oldman




On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:19:55 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

And if you still cannot see it, go to the Windows Explorer options
and
disable the 'Hide File Extensions...' setting and select 'Show
System
and
Hidden files' option.

Terry

It will be located in the following folder:

C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of
my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via
msnews.microsoft.com
Tom,

I did a search for the file normal.dotm and Vista did not find a
file
by that name so could you tell me in which folder it should be
located
unless the name is not what you wrote.

I want to take the fixes one at a time starting with your first
fix.

Thanks
oldgray



On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:27:22 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

I've not seen this particular error but errors of these types are
usually
due to one of these problems:

1. Corrupt normal.dotm (rename it as normal.bad and Word will
recreate
it
automatically)

2. Corrupt Data Key at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Word\Data. Run
Regedit,
navigate to the key and whilst DATA is selected, press DELETE.

3. Corrupt printer driver. Check that you have the latest
printer
driver
from the manufacturer's support site and then delete and
reinstall
the
printer.

Assuming one of these fixes the problem, clean up after all those
failures:
see http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm for
what
to
do.
 
O

oldman

Terry,

I guess I still have a problem since before copying my friend's copy
of normal.dotm into the templates folder Word did not create a
normal.dotm. Once I copied the file into the folder the date and time
were modified but the creator was still my friend.

Would it help if I uninstalled word and then reinstalled it?

At times word is still crashing with the original error message that I
had added to this post a few days ago.

The saga continues.

Thanks,

oldgray


The test to see if this is working is to make a simple change such as to the
default font (as described in my previous post) and then close Word and
check the date/time stamp of the normal.dotm file. If it doesn't change to
the current date/time you still have a problem. Bringing in a copy of
normal.dotm is not fixing the problem. The problem is that Word is not
creating a normal.dotm.

Terry

Terry,

Good morning.

I had a friend send me the missing normal.dotm file and placed it in
the fold that you indicated it should have been. Followed your steps
and the file has now been accessed and the date changed.

I also set the option for both word and excel to periodically check
for updates it the options. Next week I will see if when I run the
diagnostics any files were change since there is one error message
about some sketch file missing and me not having administrative
privileges to make updates.

The office 2007 install was clean not an upgrade

With the dotm file now in the folder I will have to see if the crash
message no longer appears.

Thanks for the help.

oldgray




In Windows Explorer, make sure that under Folder Options | View tab, Show
Hidden Files and Folders is checked and that 'Hide extensions for known
file
types' and 'Hide protected operating systems files' are both unchecked.
That
will ensure normal.dotm will show up.

Then open Word and go to the Font settings dialog and change the font or
font size and press the DEFAULT button at the bottom of the dialog. Now
close Word. Note that when you close Word you should get a prompt to save
changes to the global template: answer Yes. Use Explorer to navigate to
Users | Username | App Data | Roaming | Microsoft | Templates and look for
normal.dotm now. If it is not in that location, open Word again and go to
Word Options | Advance tab and down at the very bottom select File
Locations. Confirm that the User Templates folder is pointing to the
location above.

If that fails to generate the normal.dotm, it may be add-in that is
incompatible with Word 2007. Is Office 2007 an upgrade from an older
version
or a clean install on a new computer?

Terry

PS Users without Word 2007 may download the FREE Office 2007 compatibility
pack for Office 2000 to 2003, which will let them open Office 2007 formats
files: it will also give them all the new font sets to ensure 100%
compatibility.


Terry,

I am running Office2007. I have just zipped the normal.doc and
normal.bak and then deleted both files. On my computer there is no
file named normal.dotm. I have changed the options to use word 2007
file format. The font I have set is Ariel 12pt. The real puzzle is
the normal.dotm file that is not on my computer.

Just ran the Diagnostics option from word and nothing came up bad.
However, when I went to option screen the following came up but can
not get to the file it wants me to go get. It will take a few days
till the download is accomplished per the Microsoft site.

Update Diagnostic - Unable to access a required file
The Update Diagnostic was unable to run because it requires a file
that you have chosen not to download. To give Microsoft Office
permission to download this file, do one of the following in one of
these 2007 Office release programs:


I was using the 2003 comparability format so I could sent files to
people still using office2003.

My next thing I guess is to wait till the problem file is downloaded.
However, the file normal.dotm mystery remains.

Again thanks for the help.

oldgray













On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:19:57 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

Are you sure you are using Word 2007? Why did you change the font
substitution? normal.dotm is the equivalent of the previous normal.dot.
It
has NEVER been normal.doc. If you are definitely using Word 2007, go to
Word
Options | Resources tab and choose the DIAGNOSTICS option.

I asked before, why are you using compatibility mode?

Terry

Hi once more,

I am looking at the folder:
C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

Inside of that folder are two other folder Charts and Document Themes.
Under Document Themes there are three other folders :
Themes Colors, Theme Effects and Theme Fonts. all of these folders are
empty. Under the Templates folder as files are :~$Normal.old,
Manufacturing output histogram.xlt,Normal.bak and Normal.doc. that is
all.

I went into the Word preferences and changed the font in Font
Substitution to Ariel 12.

After your last note I changed Normal.doc to Normal.ba1 but when word
was opened it recreated the Normal.doc file. I just changed it once
more and we will see what happens. Is Normal.dotm due to Word2007
file format?

We hopefully will get this solved.

oldman


On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:22:37 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

There is no such animal as normal.doc (for Word 2007), not even in
previous
versions of Word: normal.bak is irrelevant. I suggest you rename one
as
normal.bad and the other as normal.ba1.

Then restart Word 2007 and try changing the fonts again. If it still
fails,
what fonts are you using and why are you using Word 2003 compatibility
mode?

Terry

I followed your instructions and went to the location indicated.
However, I only see normal.doc and normal.bak. Could my word
problem
be that I am running in word2003 mode so that I can transfer files
to
users that are running office2003?

Thanks for the help,
oldman




On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:19:55 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

And if you still cannot see it, go to the Windows Explorer options
and
disable the 'Hide File Extensions...' setting and select 'Show
System
and
Hidden files' option.

Terry

It will be located in the following folder:

C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of
my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via
msnews.microsoft.com
Tom,

I did a search for the file normal.dotm and Vista did not find a
file
by that name so could you tell me in which folder it should be
located
unless the name is not what you wrote.

I want to take the fixes one at a time starting with your first
fix.

Thanks
oldgray



On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:27:22 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

I've not seen this particular error but errors of these types are
usually
due to one of these problems:

1. Corrupt normal.dotm (rename it as normal.bad and Word will
recreate
it
automatically)

2. Corrupt Data Key at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Word\Data. Run
Regedit,
navigate to the key and whilst DATA is selected, press DELETE.

3. Corrupt printer driver. Check that you have the latest
printer
driver
from the manufacturer's support site and then delete and
reinstall
the
printer.

Assuming one of these fixes the problem, clean up after all those
failures:
see http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm for
what
to
do.
 
T

Terry Farrell

None of this is making any sense whatsoever. Please let's go back to square
1.

Rename normal.dotm as normal.bad. Restart Word and make sure it is in Word
2007 mode and not compatibility mode. Now before doing anything else, type
into the blank document and check what font and font size it is using?
(Don't be concerned that there is no normal.dotm created as there shouldn't
be a normal.dotm at this stage.)

Terry

Terry,

I guess I still have a problem since before copying my friend's copy
of normal.dotm into the templates folder Word did not create a
normal.dotm. Once I copied the file into the folder the date and time
were modified but the creator was still my friend.

Would it help if I uninstalled word and then reinstalled it?

At times word is still crashing with the original error message that I
had added to this post a few days ago.

The saga continues.

Thanks,

oldgray


The test to see if this is working is to make a simple change such as to
the
default font (as described in my previous post) and then close Word and
check the date/time stamp of the normal.dotm file. If it doesn't change to
the current date/time you still have a problem. Bringing in a copy of
normal.dotm is not fixing the problem. The problem is that Word is not
creating a normal.dotm.

Terry

Terry,

Good morning.

I had a friend send me the missing normal.dotm file and placed it in
the fold that you indicated it should have been. Followed your steps
and the file has now been accessed and the date changed.

I also set the option for both word and excel to periodically check
for updates it the options. Next week I will see if when I run the
diagnostics any files were change since there is one error message
about some sketch file missing and me not having administrative
privileges to make updates.

The office 2007 install was clean not an upgrade

With the dotm file now in the folder I will have to see if the crash
message no longer appears.

Thanks for the help.

oldgray




On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:34:51 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

In Windows Explorer, make sure that under Folder Options | View tab,
Show
Hidden Files and Folders is checked and that 'Hide extensions for known
file
types' and 'Hide protected operating systems files' are both unchecked.
That
will ensure normal.dotm will show up.

Then open Word and go to the Font settings dialog and change the font or
font size and press the DEFAULT button at the bottom of the dialog. Now
close Word. Note that when you close Word you should get a prompt to
save
changes to the global template: answer Yes. Use Explorer to navigate to
Users | Username | App Data | Roaming | Microsoft | Templates and look
for
normal.dotm now. If it is not in that location, open Word again and go
to
Word Options | Advance tab and down at the very bottom select File
Locations. Confirm that the User Templates folder is pointing to the
location above.

If that fails to generate the normal.dotm, it may be add-in that is
incompatible with Word 2007. Is Office 2007 an upgrade from an older
version
or a clean install on a new computer?

Terry

PS Users without Word 2007 may download the FREE Office 2007
compatibility
pack for Office 2000 to 2003, which will let them open Office 2007
formats
files: it will also give them all the new font sets to ensure 100%
compatibility.


Terry,

I am running Office2007. I have just zipped the normal.doc and
normal.bak and then deleted both files. On my computer there is no
file named normal.dotm. I have changed the options to use word 2007
file format. The font I have set is Ariel 12pt. The real puzzle is
the normal.dotm file that is not on my computer.

Just ran the Diagnostics option from word and nothing came up bad.
However, when I went to option screen the following came up but can
not get to the file it wants me to go get. It will take a few days
till the download is accomplished per the Microsoft site.

Update Diagnostic - Unable to access a required file
The Update Diagnostic was unable to run because it requires a file
that you have chosen not to download. To give Microsoft Office
permission to download this file, do one of the following in one of
these 2007 Office release programs:


I was using the 2003 comparability format so I could sent files to
people still using office2003.

My next thing I guess is to wait till the problem file is downloaded.
However, the file normal.dotm mystery remains.

Again thanks for the help.

oldgray













On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:19:57 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

Are you sure you are using Word 2007? Why did you change the font
substitution? normal.dotm is the equivalent of the previous
normal.dot.
It
has NEVER been normal.doc. If you are definitely using Word 2007, go
to
Word
Options | Resources tab and choose the DIAGNOSTICS option.

I asked before, why are you using compatibility mode?

Terry

Hi once more,

I am looking at the folder:
C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

Inside of that folder are two other folder Charts and Document
Themes.
Under Document Themes there are three other folders :
Themes Colors, Theme Effects and Theme Fonts. all of these folders
are
empty. Under the Templates folder as files are :~$Normal.old,
Manufacturing output histogram.xlt,Normal.bak and Normal.doc. that
is
all.

I went into the Word preferences and changed the font in Font
Substitution to Ariel 12.

After your last note I changed Normal.doc to Normal.ba1 but when
word
was opened it recreated the Normal.doc file. I just changed it once
more and we will see what happens. Is Normal.dotm due to Word2007
file format?

We hopefully will get this solved.

oldman


On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:22:37 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

There is no such animal as normal.doc (for Word 2007), not even in
previous
versions of Word: normal.bak is irrelevant. I suggest you rename one
as
normal.bad and the other as normal.ba1.

Then restart Word 2007 and try changing the fonts again. If it still
fails,
what fonts are you using and why are you using Word 2003
compatibility
mode?

Terry

I followed your instructions and went to the location indicated.
However, I only see normal.doc and normal.bak. Could my word
problem
be that I am running in word2003 mode so that I can transfer files
to
users that are running office2003?

Thanks for the help,
oldman




On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:19:55 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

And if you still cannot see it, go to the Windows Explorer options
and
disable the 'Hide File Extensions...' setting and select 'Show
System
and
Hidden files' option.

Terry

message
It will be located in the following folder:

C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself
of
my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via
msnews.microsoft.com
Tom,

I did a search for the file normal.dotm and Vista did not find
a
file
by that name so could you tell me in which folder it should be
located
unless the name is not what you wrote.

I want to take the fixes one at a time starting with your first
fix.

Thanks
oldgray



On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:27:22 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

I've not seen this particular error but errors of these types
are
usually
due to one of these problems:

1. Corrupt normal.dotm (rename it as normal.bad and Word
will
recreate
it
automatically)

2. Corrupt Data Key at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Word\Data. Run
Regedit,
navigate to the key and whilst DATA is selected, press DELETE.

3. Corrupt printer driver. Check that you have the latest
printer
driver
from the manufacturer's support site and then delete and
reinstall
the
printer.

Assuming one of these fixes the problem, clean up after all
those
failures:
see http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm for
what
to
do.
 
O

oldman

Terry,

Changed normal.dotm to normal.old.
Option set to save file as dotm which is word 2007 format.
Opened new document and changed font from calibri to Ariel 11.
Saved document.
Closed word.
Opened Explorer and checked
c:\users\...\Appdata\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates\ there is no file in
there called normal.dotm

What next?

oldgray


None of this is making any sense whatsoever. Please let's go back to square
1.

Rename normal.dotm as normal.bad. Restart Word and make sure it is in Word
2007 mode and not compatibility mode. Now before doing anything else, type
into the blank document and check what font and font size it is using?
(Don't be concerned that there is no normal.dotm created as there shouldn't
be a normal.dotm at this stage.)

Terry

Terry,

I guess I still have a problem since before copying my friend's copy
of normal.dotm into the templates folder Word did not create a
normal.dotm. Once I copied the file into the folder the date and time
were modified but the creator was still my friend.

Would it help if I uninstalled word and then reinstalled it?

At times word is still crashing with the original error message that I
had added to this post a few days ago.

The saga continues.

Thanks,

oldgray


The test to see if this is working is to make a simple change such as to
the
default font (as described in my previous post) and then close Word and
check the date/time stamp of the normal.dotm file. If it doesn't change to
the current date/time you still have a problem. Bringing in a copy of
normal.dotm is not fixing the problem. The problem is that Word is not
creating a normal.dotm.

Terry

Terry,

Good morning.

I had a friend send me the missing normal.dotm file and placed it in
the fold that you indicated it should have been. Followed your steps
and the file has now been accessed and the date changed.

I also set the option for both word and excel to periodically check
for updates it the options. Next week I will see if when I run the
diagnostics any files were change since there is one error message
about some sketch file missing and me not having administrative
privileges to make updates.

The office 2007 install was clean not an upgrade

With the dotm file now in the folder I will have to see if the crash
message no longer appears.

Thanks for the help.

oldgray




On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:34:51 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

In Windows Explorer, make sure that under Folder Options | View tab,
Show
Hidden Files and Folders is checked and that 'Hide extensions for known
file
types' and 'Hide protected operating systems files' are both unchecked.
That
will ensure normal.dotm will show up.

Then open Word and go to the Font settings dialog and change the font or
font size and press the DEFAULT button at the bottom of the dialog. Now
close Word. Note that when you close Word you should get a prompt to
save
changes to the global template: answer Yes. Use Explorer to navigate to
Users | Username | App Data | Roaming | Microsoft | Templates and look
for
normal.dotm now. If it is not in that location, open Word again and go
to
Word Options | Advance tab and down at the very bottom select File
Locations. Confirm that the User Templates folder is pointing to the
location above.

If that fails to generate the normal.dotm, it may be add-in that is
incompatible with Word 2007. Is Office 2007 an upgrade from an older
version
or a clean install on a new computer?

Terry

PS Users without Word 2007 may download the FREE Office 2007
compatibility
pack for Office 2000 to 2003, which will let them open Office 2007
formats
files: it will also give them all the new font sets to ensure 100%
compatibility.


Terry,

I am running Office2007. I have just zipped the normal.doc and
normal.bak and then deleted both files. On my computer there is no
file named normal.dotm. I have changed the options to use word 2007
file format. The font I have set is Ariel 12pt. The real puzzle is
the normal.dotm file that is not on my computer.

Just ran the Diagnostics option from word and nothing came up bad.
However, when I went to option screen the following came up but can
not get to the file it wants me to go get. It will take a few days
till the download is accomplished per the Microsoft site.

Update Diagnostic - Unable to access a required file
The Update Diagnostic was unable to run because it requires a file
that you have chosen not to download. To give Microsoft Office
permission to download this file, do one of the following in one of
these 2007 Office release programs:


I was using the 2003 comparability format so I could sent files to
people still using office2003.

My next thing I guess is to wait till the problem file is downloaded.
However, the file normal.dotm mystery remains.

Again thanks for the help.

oldgray













On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:19:57 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

Are you sure you are using Word 2007? Why did you change the font
substitution? normal.dotm is the equivalent of the previous
normal.dot.
It
has NEVER been normal.doc. If you are definitely using Word 2007, go
to
Word
Options | Resources tab and choose the DIAGNOSTICS option.

I asked before, why are you using compatibility mode?

Terry

Hi once more,

I am looking at the folder:
C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

Inside of that folder are two other folder Charts and Document
Themes.
Under Document Themes there are three other folders :
Themes Colors, Theme Effects and Theme Fonts. all of these folders
are
empty. Under the Templates folder as files are :~$Normal.old,
Manufacturing output histogram.xlt,Normal.bak and Normal.doc. that
is
all.

I went into the Word preferences and changed the font in Font
Substitution to Ariel 12.

After your last note I changed Normal.doc to Normal.ba1 but when
word
was opened it recreated the Normal.doc file. I just changed it once
more and we will see what happens. Is Normal.dotm due to Word2007
file format?

We hopefully will get this solved.

oldman


On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:22:37 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

There is no such animal as normal.doc (for Word 2007), not even in
previous
versions of Word: normal.bak is irrelevant. I suggest you rename one
as
normal.bad and the other as normal.ba1.

Then restart Word 2007 and try changing the fonts again. If it still
fails,
what fonts are you using and why are you using Word 2003
compatibility
mode?

Terry

I followed your instructions and went to the location indicated.
However, I only see normal.doc and normal.bak. Could my word
problem
be that I am running in word2003 mode so that I can transfer files
to
users that are running office2003?

Thanks for the help,
oldman




On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:19:55 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

And if you still cannot see it, go to the Windows Explorer options
and
disable the 'Hide File Extensions...' setting and select 'Show
System
and
Hidden files' option.

Terry

message
It will be located in the following folder:

C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself
of
my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via
msnews.microsoft.com
Tom,

I did a search for the file normal.dotm and Vista did not find
a
file
by that name so could you tell me in which folder it should be
located
unless the name is not what you wrote.

I want to take the fixes one at a time starting with your first
fix.

Thanks
oldgray



On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:27:22 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

I've not seen this particular error but errors of these types
are
usually
due to one of these problems:

1. Corrupt normal.dotm (rename it as normal.bad and Word
will
recreate
it
automatically)

2. Corrupt Data Key at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Word\Data. Run
Regedit,
navigate to the key and whilst DATA is selected, press DELETE.

3. Corrupt printer driver. Check that you have the latest
printer
driver
from the manufacturer's support site and then delete and
reinstall
the
printer.

Assuming one of these fixes the problem, clean up after all
those
failures:
see http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm for
what
to
do.
 
T

Terry Farrell

Open Word, go to Word Options | Advanced tab and scroll down to the SAVE
section and make sure that 'Prompt before saving Normal Template' is
checked. Close the options dialog.

Use the Font Dialog (Ctrl+D), select Arial 11pt and press the DEFAULT...
button at the bottom of the dialog. Close the document and then close Word.
Do you get the prompt to save Normal template when Word closes? Is there a
normal.dotm now?

Terry

Terry,

Changed normal.dotm to normal.old.
Option set to save file as dotm which is word 2007 format.
Opened new document and changed font from calibri to Ariel 11.
Saved document.
Closed word.
Opened Explorer and checked
c:\users\...\Appdata\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates\ there is no file in
there called normal.dotm

What next?

oldgray


None of this is making any sense whatsoever. Please let's go back to
square
1.

Rename normal.dotm as normal.bad. Restart Word and make sure it is in Word
2007 mode and not compatibility mode. Now before doing anything else, type
into the blank document and check what font and font size it is using?
(Don't be concerned that there is no normal.dotm created as there
shouldn't
be a normal.dotm at this stage.)

Terry

Terry,

I guess I still have a problem since before copying my friend's copy
of normal.dotm into the templates folder Word did not create a
normal.dotm. Once I copied the file into the folder the date and time
were modified but the creator was still my friend.

Would it help if I uninstalled word and then reinstalled it?

At times word is still crashing with the original error message that I
had added to this post a few days ago.

The saga continues.

Thanks,

oldgray


On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:54:49 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

The test to see if this is working is to make a simple change such as to
the
default font (as described in my previous post) and then close Word and
check the date/time stamp of the normal.dotm file. If it doesn't change
to
the current date/time you still have a problem. Bringing in a copy of
normal.dotm is not fixing the problem. The problem is that Word is not
creating a normal.dotm.

Terry

Terry,

Good morning.

I had a friend send me the missing normal.dotm file and placed it in
the fold that you indicated it should have been. Followed your steps
and the file has now been accessed and the date changed.

I also set the option for both word and excel to periodically check
for updates it the options. Next week I will see if when I run the
diagnostics any files were change since there is one error message
about some sketch file missing and me not having administrative
privileges to make updates.

The office 2007 install was clean not an upgrade

With the dotm file now in the folder I will have to see if the crash
message no longer appears.

Thanks for the help.

oldgray




On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:34:51 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

In Windows Explorer, make sure that under Folder Options | View tab,
Show
Hidden Files and Folders is checked and that 'Hide extensions for
known
file
types' and 'Hide protected operating systems files' are both
unchecked.
That
will ensure normal.dotm will show up.

Then open Word and go to the Font settings dialog and change the font
or
font size and press the DEFAULT button at the bottom of the dialog.
Now
close Word. Note that when you close Word you should get a prompt to
save
changes to the global template: answer Yes. Use Explorer to navigate
to
Users | Username | App Data | Roaming | Microsoft | Templates and look
for
normal.dotm now. If it is not in that location, open Word again and go
to
Word Options | Advance tab and down at the very bottom select File
Locations. Confirm that the User Templates folder is pointing to the
location above.

If that fails to generate the normal.dotm, it may be add-in that is
incompatible with Word 2007. Is Office 2007 an upgrade from an older
version
or a clean install on a new computer?

Terry

PS Users without Word 2007 may download the FREE Office 2007
compatibility
pack for Office 2000 to 2003, which will let them open Office 2007
formats
files: it will also give them all the new font sets to ensure 100%
compatibility.


Terry,

I am running Office2007. I have just zipped the normal.doc and
normal.bak and then deleted both files. On my computer there is no
file named normal.dotm. I have changed the options to use word 2007
file format. The font I have set is Ariel 12pt. The real puzzle is
the normal.dotm file that is not on my computer.

Just ran the Diagnostics option from word and nothing came up bad.
However, when I went to option screen the following came up but can
not get to the file it wants me to go get. It will take a few days
till the download is accomplished per the Microsoft site.

Update Diagnostic - Unable to access a required file
The Update Diagnostic was unable to run because it requires a file
that you have chosen not to download. To give Microsoft Office
permission to download this file, do one of the following in one of
these 2007 Office release programs:


I was using the 2003 comparability format so I could sent files to
people still using office2003.

My next thing I guess is to wait till the problem file is
downloaded.
However, the file normal.dotm mystery remains.

Again thanks for the help.

oldgray













On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:19:57 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

Are you sure you are using Word 2007? Why did you change the font
substitution? normal.dotm is the equivalent of the previous
normal.dot.
It
has NEVER been normal.doc. If you are definitely using Word 2007, go
to
Word
Options | Resources tab and choose the DIAGNOSTICS option.

I asked before, why are you using compatibility mode?

Terry

Hi once more,

I am looking at the folder:
C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

Inside of that folder are two other folder Charts and Document
Themes.
Under Document Themes there are three other folders :
Themes Colors, Theme Effects and Theme Fonts. all of these folders
are
empty. Under the Templates folder as files are :~$Normal.old,
Manufacturing output histogram.xlt,Normal.bak and Normal.doc.
that
is
all.

I went into the Word preferences and changed the font in Font
Substitution to Ariel 12.

After your last note I changed Normal.doc to Normal.ba1 but when
word
was opened it recreated the Normal.doc file. I just changed it
once
more and we will see what happens. Is Normal.dotm due to Word2007
file format?

We hopefully will get this solved.

oldman


On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:22:37 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

There is no such animal as normal.doc (for Word 2007), not even in
previous
versions of Word: normal.bak is irrelevant. I suggest you rename
one
as
normal.bad and the other as normal.ba1.

Then restart Word 2007 and try changing the fonts again. If it
still
fails,
what fonts are you using and why are you using Word 2003
compatibility
mode?

Terry

I followed your instructions and went to the location indicated.
However, I only see normal.doc and normal.bak. Could my word
problem
be that I am running in word2003 mode so that I can transfer
files
to
users that are running office2003?

Thanks for the help,
oldman




On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:19:55 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

And if you still cannot see it, go to the Windows Explorer
options
and
disable the 'Hide File Extensions...' setting and select 'Show
System
and
Hidden files' option.

Terry

message
It will be located in the following folder:

C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail
yourself
of
my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via
msnews.microsoft.com
Tom,

I did a search for the file normal.dotm and Vista did not
find
a
file
by that name so could you tell me in which folder it should
be
located
unless the name is not what you wrote.

I want to take the fixes one at a time starting with your
first
fix.

Thanks
oldgray



On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:27:22 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

I've not seen this particular error but errors of these types
are
usually
due to one of these problems:

1. Corrupt normal.dotm (rename it as normal.bad and Word
will
recreate
it
automatically)

2. Corrupt Data Key at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Word\Data.
Run
Regedit,
navigate to the key and whilst DATA is selected, press
DELETE.

3. Corrupt printer driver. Check that you have the latest
printer
driver
from the manufacturer's support site and then delete and
reinstall
the
printer.

Assuming one of these fixes the problem, clean up after all
those
failures:
see http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm
for
what
to
do.
 
O

oldman

Terry,

I followed your instructions to the letter. I now have a Normal.dotm
in the Templates folder with a time stamp of just about when I hit
save. Now we have to see if I can go without crashing over the next
few days. If I crash I will post a note here.

Thanks once more. Hopefully, I will not be contacting you.

oldgray



Open Word, go to Word Options | Advanced tab and scroll down to the SAVE
section and make sure that 'Prompt before saving Normal Template' is
checked. Close the options dialog.

Use the Font Dialog (Ctrl+D), select Arial 11pt and press the DEFAULT...
button at the bottom of the dialog. Close the document and then close Word.
Do you get the prompt to save Normal template when Word closes? Is there a
normal.dotm now?

Terry

Terry,

Changed normal.dotm to normal.old.
Option set to save file as dotm which is word 2007 format.
Opened new document and changed font from calibri to Ariel 11.
Saved document.
Closed word.
Opened Explorer and checked
c:\users\...\Appdata\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates\ there is no file in
there called normal.dotm

What next?

oldgray


None of this is making any sense whatsoever. Please let's go back to
square
1.

Rename normal.dotm as normal.bad. Restart Word and make sure it is in Word
2007 mode and not compatibility mode. Now before doing anything else, type
into the blank document and check what font and font size it is using?
(Don't be concerned that there is no normal.dotm created as there
shouldn't
be a normal.dotm at this stage.)

Terry

Terry,

I guess I still have a problem since before copying my friend's copy
of normal.dotm into the templates folder Word did not create a
normal.dotm. Once I copied the file into the folder the date and time
were modified but the creator was still my friend.

Would it help if I uninstalled word and then reinstalled it?

At times word is still crashing with the original error message that I
had added to this post a few days ago.

The saga continues.

Thanks,

oldgray


On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:54:49 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

The test to see if this is working is to make a simple change such as to
the
default font (as described in my previous post) and then close Word and
check the date/time stamp of the normal.dotm file. If it doesn't change
to
the current date/time you still have a problem. Bringing in a copy of
normal.dotm is not fixing the problem. The problem is that Word is not
creating a normal.dotm.

Terry

Terry,

Good morning.

I had a friend send me the missing normal.dotm file and placed it in
the fold that you indicated it should have been. Followed your steps
and the file has now been accessed and the date changed.

I also set the option for both word and excel to periodically check
for updates it the options. Next week I will see if when I run the
diagnostics any files were change since there is one error message
about some sketch file missing and me not having administrative
privileges to make updates.

The office 2007 install was clean not an upgrade

With the dotm file now in the folder I will have to see if the crash
message no longer appears.

Thanks for the help.

oldgray




On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:34:51 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

In Windows Explorer, make sure that under Folder Options | View tab,
Show
Hidden Files and Folders is checked and that 'Hide extensions for
known
file
types' and 'Hide protected operating systems files' are both
unchecked.
That
will ensure normal.dotm will show up.

Then open Word and go to the Font settings dialog and change the font
or
font size and press the DEFAULT button at the bottom of the dialog.
Now
close Word. Note that when you close Word you should get a prompt to
save
changes to the global template: answer Yes. Use Explorer to navigate
to
Users | Username | App Data | Roaming | Microsoft | Templates and look
for
normal.dotm now. If it is not in that location, open Word again and go
to
Word Options | Advance tab and down at the very bottom select File
Locations. Confirm that the User Templates folder is pointing to the
location above.

If that fails to generate the normal.dotm, it may be add-in that is
incompatible with Word 2007. Is Office 2007 an upgrade from an older
version
or a clean install on a new computer?

Terry

PS Users without Word 2007 may download the FREE Office 2007
compatibility
pack for Office 2000 to 2003, which will let them open Office 2007
formats
files: it will also give them all the new font sets to ensure 100%
compatibility.


Terry,

I am running Office2007. I have just zipped the normal.doc and
normal.bak and then deleted both files. On my computer there is no
file named normal.dotm. I have changed the options to use word 2007
file format. The font I have set is Ariel 12pt. The real puzzle is
the normal.dotm file that is not on my computer.

Just ran the Diagnostics option from word and nothing came up bad.
However, when I went to option screen the following came up but can
not get to the file it wants me to go get. It will take a few days
till the download is accomplished per the Microsoft site.

Update Diagnostic - Unable to access a required file
The Update Diagnostic was unable to run because it requires a file
that you have chosen not to download. To give Microsoft Office
permission to download this file, do one of the following in one of
these 2007 Office release programs:


I was using the 2003 comparability format so I could sent files to
people still using office2003.

My next thing I guess is to wait till the problem file is
downloaded.
However, the file normal.dotm mystery remains.

Again thanks for the help.

oldgray













On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:19:57 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

Are you sure you are using Word 2007? Why did you change the font
substitution? normal.dotm is the equivalent of the previous
normal.dot.
It
has NEVER been normal.doc. If you are definitely using Word 2007, go
to
Word
Options | Resources tab and choose the DIAGNOSTICS option.

I asked before, why are you using compatibility mode?

Terry

Hi once more,

I am looking at the folder:
C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

Inside of that folder are two other folder Charts and Document
Themes.
Under Document Themes there are three other folders :
Themes Colors, Theme Effects and Theme Fonts. all of these folders
are
empty. Under the Templates folder as files are :~$Normal.old,
Manufacturing output histogram.xlt,Normal.bak and Normal.doc.
that
is
all.

I went into the Word preferences and changed the font in Font
Substitution to Ariel 12.

After your last note I changed Normal.doc to Normal.ba1 but when
word
was opened it recreated the Normal.doc file. I just changed it
once
more and we will see what happens. Is Normal.dotm due to Word2007
file format?

We hopefully will get this solved.

oldman


On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:22:37 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

There is no such animal as normal.doc (for Word 2007), not even in
previous
versions of Word: normal.bak is irrelevant. I suggest you rename
one
as
normal.bad and the other as normal.ba1.

Then restart Word 2007 and try changing the fonts again. If it
still
fails,
what fonts are you using and why are you using Word 2003
compatibility
mode?

Terry

I followed your instructions and went to the location indicated.
However, I only see normal.doc and normal.bak. Could my word
problem
be that I am running in word2003 mode so that I can transfer
files
to
users that are running office2003?

Thanks for the help,
oldman




On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:19:55 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

And if you still cannot see it, go to the Windows Explorer
options
and
disable the 'Hide File Extensions...' setting and select 'Show
System
and
Hidden files' option.

Terry

message
It will be located in the following folder:

C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail
yourself
of
my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via
msnews.microsoft.com
Tom,

I did a search for the file normal.dotm and Vista did not
find
a
file
by that name so could you tell me in which folder it should
be
located
unless the name is not what you wrote.

I want to take the fixes one at a time starting with your
first
fix.

Thanks
oldgray



On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:27:22 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

I've not seen this particular error but errors of these types
are
usually
due to one of these problems:

1. Corrupt normal.dotm (rename it as normal.bad and Word
will
recreate
it
automatically)

2. Corrupt Data Key at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Word\Data.
Run
Regedit,
navigate to the key and whilst DATA is selected, press
DELETE.

3. Corrupt printer driver. Check that you have the latest
printer
driver
from the manufacturer's support site and then delete and
reinstall
the
printer.

Assuming one of these fixes the problem, clean up after all
those
failures:
see http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm
for
what
to
do.
 
T

Terry Farrell

We may not necessarily have found the problem that is causing occasional
crashes. But before continuing testing, clean out your system after all the
problems. See the following FAQ for advise on cleaning up:

http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm

Terry

Terry,

I followed your instructions to the letter. I now have a Normal.dotm
in the Templates folder with a time stamp of just about when I hit
save. Now we have to see if I can go without crashing over the next
few days. If I crash I will post a note here.

Thanks once more. Hopefully, I will not be contacting you.

oldgray



Open Word, go to Word Options | Advanced tab and scroll down to the SAVE
section and make sure that 'Prompt before saving Normal Template' is
checked. Close the options dialog.

Use the Font Dialog (Ctrl+D), select Arial 11pt and press the DEFAULT...
button at the bottom of the dialog. Close the document and then close
Word.
Do you get the prompt to save Normal template when Word closes? Is there a
normal.dotm now?

Terry

Terry,

Changed normal.dotm to normal.old.
Option set to save file as dotm which is word 2007 format.
Opened new document and changed font from calibri to Ariel 11.
Saved document.
Closed word.
Opened Explorer and checked
c:\users\...\Appdata\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates\ there is no file in
there called normal.dotm

What next?

oldgray


On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:34:52 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

None of this is making any sense whatsoever. Please let's go back to
square
1.

Rename normal.dotm as normal.bad. Restart Word and make sure it is in
Word
2007 mode and not compatibility mode. Now before doing anything else,
type
into the blank document and check what font and font size it is using?
(Don't be concerned that there is no normal.dotm created as there
shouldn't
be a normal.dotm at this stage.)

Terry

Terry,

I guess I still have a problem since before copying my friend's copy
of normal.dotm into the templates folder Word did not create a
normal.dotm. Once I copied the file into the folder the date and time
were modified but the creator was still my friend.

Would it help if I uninstalled word and then reinstalled it?

At times word is still crashing with the original error message that I
had added to this post a few days ago.

The saga continues.

Thanks,

oldgray


On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:54:49 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

The test to see if this is working is to make a simple change such as
to
the
default font (as described in my previous post) and then close Word
and
check the date/time stamp of the normal.dotm file. If it doesn't
change
to
the current date/time you still have a problem. Bringing in a copy of
normal.dotm is not fixing the problem. The problem is that Word is not
creating a normal.dotm.

Terry

Terry,

Good morning.

I had a friend send me the missing normal.dotm file and placed it in
the fold that you indicated it should have been. Followed your
steps
and the file has now been accessed and the date changed.

I also set the option for both word and excel to periodically check
for updates it the options. Next week I will see if when I run the
diagnostics any files were change since there is one error message
about some sketch file missing and me not having administrative
privileges to make updates.

The office 2007 install was clean not an upgrade

With the dotm file now in the folder I will have to see if the crash
message no longer appears.

Thanks for the help.

oldgray




On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:34:51 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

In Windows Explorer, make sure that under Folder Options | View tab,
Show
Hidden Files and Folders is checked and that 'Hide extensions for
known
file
types' and 'Hide protected operating systems files' are both
unchecked.
That
will ensure normal.dotm will show up.

Then open Word and go to the Font settings dialog and change the
font
or
font size and press the DEFAULT button at the bottom of the dialog.
Now
close Word. Note that when you close Word you should get a prompt to
save
changes to the global template: answer Yes. Use Explorer to navigate
to
Users | Username | App Data | Roaming | Microsoft | Templates and
look
for
normal.dotm now. If it is not in that location, open Word again and
go
to
Word Options | Advance tab and down at the very bottom select File
Locations. Confirm that the User Templates folder is pointing to the
location above.

If that fails to generate the normal.dotm, it may be add-in that is
incompatible with Word 2007. Is Office 2007 an upgrade from an older
version
or a clean install on a new computer?

Terry

PS Users without Word 2007 may download the FREE Office 2007
compatibility
pack for Office 2000 to 2003, which will let them open Office 2007
formats
files: it will also give them all the new font sets to ensure 100%
compatibility.


Terry,

I am running Office2007. I have just zipped the normal.doc and
normal.bak and then deleted both files. On my computer there is
no
file named normal.dotm. I have changed the options to use word
2007
file format. The font I have set is Ariel 12pt. The real puzzle
is
the normal.dotm file that is not on my computer.

Just ran the Diagnostics option from word and nothing came up bad.
However, when I went to option screen the following came up but
can
not get to the file it wants me to go get. It will take a few
days
till the download is accomplished per the Microsoft site.

Update Diagnostic - Unable to access a required file
The Update Diagnostic was unable to run because it requires a file
that you have chosen not to download. To give Microsoft Office
permission to download this file, do one of the following in one
of
these 2007 Office release programs:


I was using the 2003 comparability format so I could sent files to
people still using office2003.

My next thing I guess is to wait till the problem file is
downloaded.
However, the file normal.dotm mystery remains.

Again thanks for the help.

oldgray













On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:19:57 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

Are you sure you are using Word 2007? Why did you change the font
substitution? normal.dotm is the equivalent of the previous
normal.dot.
It
has NEVER been normal.doc. If you are definitely using Word 2007,
go
to
Word
Options | Resources tab and choose the DIAGNOSTICS option.

I asked before, why are you using compatibility mode?

Terry

Hi once more,

I am looking at the folder:
C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

Inside of that folder are two other folder Charts and Document
Themes.
Under Document Themes there are three other folders :
Themes Colors, Theme Effects and Theme Fonts. all of these
folders
are
empty. Under the Templates folder as files are :~$Normal.old,
Manufacturing output histogram.xlt,Normal.bak and Normal.doc.
that
is
all.

I went into the Word preferences and changed the font in Font
Substitution to Ariel 12.

After your last note I changed Normal.doc to Normal.ba1 but when
word
was opened it recreated the Normal.doc file. I just changed it
once
more and we will see what happens. Is Normal.dotm due to
Word2007
file format?

We hopefully will get this solved.

oldman


On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:22:37 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

There is no such animal as normal.doc (for Word 2007), not even
in
previous
versions of Word: normal.bak is irrelevant. I suggest you rename
one
as
normal.bad and the other as normal.ba1.

Then restart Word 2007 and try changing the fonts again. If it
still
fails,
what fonts are you using and why are you using Word 2003
compatibility
mode?

Terry

I followed your instructions and went to the location
indicated.
However, I only see normal.doc and normal.bak. Could my word
problem
be that I am running in word2003 mode so that I can transfer
files
to
users that are running office2003?

Thanks for the help,
oldman




On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:19:55 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

And if you still cannot see it, go to the Windows Explorer
options
and
disable the 'Hide File Extensions...' setting and select 'Show
System
and
Hidden files' option.

Terry

message
It will be located in the following folder:

C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail
yourself
of
my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via
msnews.microsoft.com
Tom,

I did a search for the file normal.dotm and Vista did not
find
a
file
by that name so could you tell me in which folder it should
be
located
unless the name is not what you wrote.

I want to take the fixes one at a time starting with your
first
fix.

Thanks
oldgray



On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:27:22 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

I've not seen this particular error but errors of these
types
are
usually
due to one of these problems:

1. Corrupt normal.dotm (rename it as normal.bad and Word
will
recreate
it
automatically)

2. Corrupt Data Key at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Word\Data.
Run
Regedit,
navigate to the key and whilst DATA is selected, press
DELETE.

3. Corrupt printer driver. Check that you have the
latest
printer
driver
from the manufacturer's support site and then delete and
reinstall
the
printer.

Assuming one of these fixes the problem, clean up after all
those
failures:
see http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm
for
what
to
do.
 
O

oldman

Terry,

Good morning.

I followed the directions in your last note. Cleaned up word per
those FAQ's in the link.

Here is the latest. When I open Word before any other application the
program opens without crashing. This morning I had Internet Explorer
open and by mistake clicked on the Word icon on the try. When Word
opened it crashed again. Once this happens the only way around the
problem is to shutdown all applications and then restart Word as I
just did with a clean screen. I am not sure what is now triggering
the crash.

Await your ideas.

oldman

We may not necessarily have found the problem that is causing occasional
crashes. But before continuing testing, clean out your system after all the
problems. See the following FAQ for advise on cleaning up:

http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm

Terry

Terry,

I followed your instructions to the letter. I now have a Normal.dotm
in the Templates folder with a time stamp of just about when I hit
save. Now we have to see if I can go without crashing over the next
few days. If I crash I will post a note here.

Thanks once more. Hopefully, I will not be contacting you.

oldgray



Open Word, go to Word Options | Advanced tab and scroll down to the SAVE
section and make sure that 'Prompt before saving Normal Template' is
checked. Close the options dialog.

Use the Font Dialog (Ctrl+D), select Arial 11pt and press the DEFAULT...
button at the bottom of the dialog. Close the document and then close
Word.
Do you get the prompt to save Normal template when Word closes? Is there a
normal.dotm now?

Terry

Terry,

Changed normal.dotm to normal.old.
Option set to save file as dotm which is word 2007 format.
Opened new document and changed font from calibri to Ariel 11.
Saved document.
Closed word.
Opened Explorer and checked
c:\users\...\Appdata\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates\ there is no file in
there called normal.dotm

What next?

oldgray


On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:34:52 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

None of this is making any sense whatsoever. Please let's go back to
square
1.

Rename normal.dotm as normal.bad. Restart Word and make sure it is in
Word
2007 mode and not compatibility mode. Now before doing anything else,
type
into the blank document and check what font and font size it is using?
(Don't be concerned that there is no normal.dotm created as there
shouldn't
be a normal.dotm at this stage.)

Terry

Terry,

I guess I still have a problem since before copying my friend's copy
of normal.dotm into the templates folder Word did not create a
normal.dotm. Once I copied the file into the folder the date and time
were modified but the creator was still my friend.

Would it help if I uninstalled word and then reinstalled it?

At times word is still crashing with the original error message that I
had added to this post a few days ago.

The saga continues.

Thanks,

oldgray


On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:54:49 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

The test to see if this is working is to make a simple change such as
to
the
default font (as described in my previous post) and then close Word
and
check the date/time stamp of the normal.dotm file. If it doesn't
change
to
the current date/time you still have a problem. Bringing in a copy of
normal.dotm is not fixing the problem. The problem is that Word is not
creating a normal.dotm.

Terry

Terry,

Good morning.

I had a friend send me the missing normal.dotm file and placed it in
the fold that you indicated it should have been. Followed your
steps
and the file has now been accessed and the date changed.

I also set the option for both word and excel to periodically check
for updates it the options. Next week I will see if when I run the
diagnostics any files were change since there is one error message
about some sketch file missing and me not having administrative
privileges to make updates.

The office 2007 install was clean not an upgrade

With the dotm file now in the folder I will have to see if the crash
message no longer appears.

Thanks for the help.

oldgray




On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:34:51 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

In Windows Explorer, make sure that under Folder Options | View tab,
Show
Hidden Files and Folders is checked and that 'Hide extensions for
known
file
types' and 'Hide protected operating systems files' are both
unchecked.
That
will ensure normal.dotm will show up.

Then open Word and go to the Font settings dialog and change the
font
or
font size and press the DEFAULT button at the bottom of the dialog.
Now
close Word. Note that when you close Word you should get a prompt to
save
changes to the global template: answer Yes. Use Explorer to navigate
to
Users | Username | App Data | Roaming | Microsoft | Templates and
look
for
normal.dotm now. If it is not in that location, open Word again and
go
to
Word Options | Advance tab and down at the very bottom select File
Locations. Confirm that the User Templates folder is pointing to the
location above.

If that fails to generate the normal.dotm, it may be add-in that is
incompatible with Word 2007. Is Office 2007 an upgrade from an older
version
or a clean install on a new computer?

Terry

PS Users without Word 2007 may download the FREE Office 2007
compatibility
pack for Office 2000 to 2003, which will let them open Office 2007
formats
files: it will also give them all the new font sets to ensure 100%
compatibility.


Terry,

I am running Office2007. I have just zipped the normal.doc and
normal.bak and then deleted both files. On my computer there is
no
file named normal.dotm. I have changed the options to use word
2007
file format. The font I have set is Ariel 12pt. The real puzzle
is
the normal.dotm file that is not on my computer.

Just ran the Diagnostics option from word and nothing came up bad.
However, when I went to option screen the following came up but
can
not get to the file it wants me to go get. It will take a few
days
till the download is accomplished per the Microsoft site.

Update Diagnostic - Unable to access a required file
The Update Diagnostic was unable to run because it requires a file
that you have chosen not to download. To give Microsoft Office
permission to download this file, do one of the following in one
of
these 2007 Office release programs:


I was using the 2003 comparability format so I could sent files to
people still using office2003.

My next thing I guess is to wait till the problem file is
downloaded.
However, the file normal.dotm mystery remains.

Again thanks for the help.

oldgray













On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:19:57 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

Are you sure you are using Word 2007? Why did you change the font
substitution? normal.dotm is the equivalent of the previous
normal.dot.
It
has NEVER been normal.doc. If you are definitely using Word 2007,
go
to
Word
Options | Resources tab and choose the DIAGNOSTICS option.

I asked before, why are you using compatibility mode?

Terry

Hi once more,

I am looking at the folder:
C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

Inside of that folder are two other folder Charts and Document
Themes.
Under Document Themes there are three other folders :
Themes Colors, Theme Effects and Theme Fonts. all of these
folders
are
empty. Under the Templates folder as files are :~$Normal.old,
Manufacturing output histogram.xlt,Normal.bak and Normal.doc.
that
is
all.

I went into the Word preferences and changed the font in Font
Substitution to Ariel 12.

After your last note I changed Normal.doc to Normal.ba1 but when
word
was opened it recreated the Normal.doc file. I just changed it
once
more and we will see what happens. Is Normal.dotm due to
Word2007
file format?

We hopefully will get this solved.

oldman


On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:22:37 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

There is no such animal as normal.doc (for Word 2007), not even
in
previous
versions of Word: normal.bak is irrelevant. I suggest you rename
one
as
normal.bad and the other as normal.ba1.

Then restart Word 2007 and try changing the fonts again. If it
still
fails,
what fonts are you using and why are you using Word 2003
compatibility
mode?

Terry

I followed your instructions and went to the location
indicated.
However, I only see normal.doc and normal.bak. Could my word
problem
be that I am running in word2003 mode so that I can transfer
files
to
users that are running office2003?

Thanks for the help,
oldman




On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:19:55 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

And if you still cannot see it, go to the Windows Explorer
options
and
disable the 'Hide File Extensions...' setting and select 'Show
System
and
Hidden files' option.

Terry

message
It will be located in the following folder:

C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Templates

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail
yourself
of
my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via
msnews.microsoft.com
Tom,

I did a search for the file normal.dotm and Vista did not
find
a
file
by that name so could you tell me in which folder it should
be
located
unless the name is not what you wrote.

I want to take the fixes one at a time starting with your
first
fix.

Thanks
oldgray



On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:27:22 +0100, "Terry Farrell"

I've not seen this particular error but errors of these
types
are
usually
due to one of these problems:

1. Corrupt normal.dotm (rename it as normal.bad and Word
will
recreate
it
automatically)

2. Corrupt Data Key at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\12.0\Word\Data.
Run
Regedit,
navigate to the key and whilst DATA is selected, press
DELETE.

3. Corrupt printer driver. Check that you have the
latest
printer
driver
from the manufacturer's support site and then delete and
reinstall
the
printer.

Assuming one of these fixes the problem, clean up after all
those
failures:
see http://www.gmayor.com/what_to_do_when_word_crashes.htm
for
what
to
do.
 

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