Word 2007 - Issue with Save As PDF

[Jeffrey Walton]

Hi All,

I'm having a number of issues with Word 2007 [(12.0.6514.5000) SP2 MSO
(12.0.6425.1000)] and PDFs.

First, I'm experiencing tremendous expansion. My original DOC is 104
KB. The document is mostly text, with a few tables an two small (less
than 10K) PNGs for figures. When I save the DOC as a PDF, the document
bloats to 508 KB. But when I use an online PDF conversion service such
as doc2pdf, the finished document is 51 KB - with advertisements.

Second, Word 2007 does not honor my document's properties. For
example, Word 2007 disregards the Title, Subject, or Author field.
That is, the fields are empty in the PDF. I do note that Word makes
sure it it places itself (Microsoft® Office Word 2007) in the PDF's
Creator and Producer fields.

Finally, I can't seem to edit security properties. For example, I'd
like to specify that the PDF document should not be modified.

Any ideas what I might be doing wrong here? support.microsoft.com is
returning next to nothing. I specifically purchased Office 2007 for
the PDF capabilities.

Jeffrey Walton

 

[Yves Dhondt]

The size issue is probably related to the fact that Word tends to include
the fonts with the pdf file. Sometimes even fonts that aren't used in the
document, but are somewhere in the styles section of the document, might get
included. I'm not sure what the exact decision process on this is.

Properties set through 'Office button' -> 'Prepare' -> 'Properties' are
added to your pdf document. Make sure that when you want to save (publish)
your Word document as a pdf, you select 'Document properties' from the
'Options' dialog in the save as dialog.

I don't think you can set the security properties for a pdf document. They
are pointless anyway. They are simple flags. In theory, pdf readers should
act according to their value but in reality, there are plenty of pdf readers
which (can) ignore them (kpdf, okular, ...).

Yves


Hi All,

I'm having a number of issues with Word 2007 [(12.0.6514.5000) SP2 MSO
(12.0.6425.1000)] and PDFs.

First, I'm experiencing tremendous expansion. My original DOC is 104
KB. The document is mostly text, with a few tables an two small (less
than 10K) PNGs for figures. When I save the DOC as a PDF, the document
bloats to 508 KB. But when I use an online PDF conversion service such
as doc2pdf, the finished document is 51 KB - with advertisements.

Second, Word 2007 does not honor my document's properties. For
example, Word 2007 disregards the Title, Subject, or Author field.
That is, the fields are empty in the PDF. I do note that Word makes
sure it it places itself (Microsoft® Office Word 2007) in the PDF's
Creator and Producer fields.

Finally, I can't seem to edit security properties. For example, I'd
like to specify that the PDF document should not be modified.

Any ideas what I might be doing wrong here? support.microsoft.com is
returning next to nothing. I specifically purchased Office 2007 for
the PDF capabilities.

Jeffrey Walton

 

[Jeffrey Walton]

Hi Yves,

The size issue is probably related to the fact that Word
tends to include the fonts with the pdf file.

This makes sense.

Properties set through 'Office button' -> 'Prepare' -> 'Properties'
are added to your pdf document. Make sure ... you select
'Document properties' from the 'Options' dialog...

OK - Confirmed the properties are present, and selected during
Publish. This is totally broken.

They are simple flags. In theory, pdf readers should act
according to their value but in reality, there are plenty of
pdf readers which (can) ignore them (kpdf, okular, ...).

Funny you bring up the tools - I tried to fix some of these issues
with PDFEdit on an Ubuntu box. Word 2007 really mangles the PDF
format. It's a wonder the document renders at all.

The software box has been opened and its been over three months: I
won't be able to get my money back due to the defects. Its amazing
that QA signed off on the broken-ass product.

Jeff

The size issue is probably related to the fact that Word tends to include
the fonts with the pdf file. Sometimes even fonts that aren't used in the
document, but are somewhere in the styles section of the document, might get
included. I'm not sure what the exact decision process on this is.

Properties set through 'Office button' -> 'Prepare' -> 'Properties' are
added to your pdf document. Make sure that when you want to save (publish)
your Word document as a pdf, you select 'Document properties' from the
'Options' dialog in the save as dialog.

I don't think you can set the security properties for a pdf document. They
are pointless anyway. They are simple flags. In theory, pdf readers should
act according to their value but in reality, there are plenty of pdf readers
which (can) ignore them (kpdf, okular, ...).

Yves


Hi All,

I'm having a number of issues with Word 2007 [(12.0.6514.5000) SP2 MSO
(12.0.6425.1000)] and PDFs.

First, I'm experiencing tremendous expansion. My original DOC is 104
KB. The document is mostly text, with a few tables an two small (less
than 10K) PNGs for figures. When I save the DOC as a PDF, the document
bloats to 508 KB. But when I use an online PDF conversion service such
as doc2pdf, the finished document is 51 KB - with advertisements.

Second, Word 2007 does not honor my document's properties. For
example, Word 2007 disregards the Title, Subject, or Author field.
That is, the fields are empty in the PDF. I do note that Word makes
sure it it places itself (Microsoft® Office Word 2007) in the PDF's
Creator and Producer fields.

Finally, I can't seem to edit security properties. For example, I'd
like to specify that the PDF document should not be modified.

Any ideas what I might be doing wrong here? support.microsoft.com is
returning next to nothing. I specifically purchased Office 2007 for
the PDF capabilities.

Jeffrey Walton