Word 2007 loading 2003 document applies wrong styles

[FFPF]

I have a document that is arranged using styles. Unfortunately, my styles
aren't converted or available to be converted into QuickStyles which is
annoying. Also, in my 2003 document, I use bullet numbering to automatically
generate chapter numbers. When loading the document in 2007, these are given
the wrong style.

I tried setting the right style and saving (both as 2003 and 2007 formats)
and it still loads incorrectly.

 

[FFPF]

Ok, I want to clarify. The I can convert the styles now. I eventually
worked out how (it wasn't as straight-forward as I would hope when opening an
old file).

However, when I save the document to docx format (either in compatibility
mode or otherwise), on reload of that document, by bullet numbers are
incorrectly formatted. I looked into setting the style of the bullets and it
isn't easy to apply a style to the bullet numbers (it seems I have to
recreate the style from memory).

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi FFPF,

Without having a copy of your document or being able to look over your shoulder at your monitor a 'wrong style' look isn't easy to
visualize accurately <g> Could elaborate a bit more?

I'm assuming you used File[the Orb]=>Convert when you opened the 2003 .doc file in 2007?

Was this document originated in 2003 or an earlier version?

Was it created on the same machine as the one you're viewing it on in Print Layout view (in both) and is the printer model/driver
the same on both?

Can you create the 'correct' (same) style look in a new Word 2007 document?

==========
I have a document that is arranged using styles. Unfortunately, my styles
aren't converted or available to be converted into QuickStyles which is
annoying. Also, in my 2003 document, I use bullet numbering to automatically
generate chapter numbers. When loading the document in 2007, these are given
the wrong style.

I tried setting the right style and saving (both as 2003 and 2007 formats)
and it still loads incorrectly. >>
--
Bob Buckland ?
MS Office system products MVP

LINKS for the 2007 Office System

1. Read about it, try it, or watch the movie
the 2007 Microsoft Office system iinfo is at
http://microsoft.com/office/preview

2. Already have 2007 Office System Beta 2?
Send Microsoft your feedback (with pictures)
http://sas.office.microsoft.com/

3. Use the 2007 OfficeOnline website without Office2007

a. Install the ActiveX access control
http://office.microsoft.com/search/redir.aspx?AssetID=XT101650581033
b. then visit http://officebeta.iponet.net

 

[FFPF]

I apologise if this appeared a little vague. I was frustrated at the time
and let it get the better of me. So to clarify, first to answer your
questions.

The document was created in Word 2003 on the same machine with the same
printer drivers et al. I opened it with the Open... command then used the
Convert command before saving it in docx format. Only on opening the docx
file did the styles change. The document I saved did not match the document I
loaded.

1. Create a style that is different to normal text (say, a different font,
bold and italic, just so it stands out).
2. Make that style have bulleted numbers
3. Type something in that style.
4. Save.
5. Open the file in Word2007
6. Convert it
7. Save it
8. Close it and reopen it. Notice how the formatting remains on the text
but not on the number. Also notice how you can't get it to stick to the
bullet number, even if you try to reapply it, save and reopen. The only way
to set the bullet style is to create a custom bullet style and use the
limited formatting options (which don't include the use of defined styles).

I can send you two files to exhibit this behaviour. Example.doc is a
Word2003 document. Example.docx is the resultant converted Word2007 document
that was created by loading the Example.doc, Converting and then saving as
Word2007.

Thanks for your feedback,
Jeff

Hi FFPF,

Without having a copy of your document or being able to look over your shoulder at your monitor a 'wrong style' look isn't easy to
visualize accurately <g> Could elaborate a bit more?

I'm assuming you used File[the Orb]=>Convert when you opened the 2003 .doc file in 2007?

Was this document originated in 2003 or an earlier version?

Was it created on the same machine as the one you're viewing it on in Print Layout view (in both) and is the printer model/driver
the same on both?

Can you create the 'correct' (same) style look in a new Word 2007 document?

==========
I have a document that is arranged using styles. Unfortunately, my styles
aren't converted or available to be converted into QuickStyles which is
annoying. Also, in my 2003 document, I use bullet numbering to automatically
generate chapter numbers. When loading the document in 2007, these are given
the wrong style.

I tried setting the right style and saving (both as 2003 and 2007 formats)
and it still loads incorrectly. >>
--
Bob Buckland ?
MS Office system products MVP

LINKS for the 2007 Office System

1. Read about it, try it, or watch the movie
the 2007 Microsoft Office system iinfo is at
http://microsoft.com/office/preview

2. Already have 2007 Office System Beta 2?
Send Microsoft your feedback (with pictures)
http://sas.office.microsoft.com/

3. Use the 2007 OfficeOnline website without Office2007

a. Install the ActiveX access control
http://office.microsoft.com/search/redir.aspx?AssetID=XT101650581033
b. then visit http://officebeta.iponet.net

 

[Beth Melton]

I don't see the same behavior. I'm not sure if Bob is interested in
seeing your files but I am.

Remove "NoSpam4Me" to obtain a valid email address:
(e-mail address removed)

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

I apologise if this appeared a little vague. I was frustrated at the
time
and let it get the better of me. So to clarify, first to answer
your
questions.

The document was created in Word 2003 on the same machine with the
same
printer drivers et al. I opened it with the Open... command then
used the
Convert command before saving it in docx format. Only on opening
the docx
file did the styles change. The document I saved did not match the
document I
loaded.

1. Create a style that is different to normal text (say, a different
font,
bold and italic, just so it stands out).
2. Make that style have bulleted numbers
3. Type something in that style.
4. Save.
5. Open the file in Word2007
6. Convert it
7. Save it
8. Close it and reopen it. Notice how the formatting remains on the
text
but not on the number. Also notice how you can't get it to stick to
the
bullet number, even if you try to reapply it, save and reopen. The
only way
to set the bullet style is to create a custom bullet style and use
the
limited formatting options (which don't include the use of defined
styles).

I can send you two files to exhibit this behaviour. Example.doc is
a
Word2003 document. Example.docx is the resultant converted Word2007
document
that was created by loading the Example.doc, Converting and then
saving as
Word2007.

Thanks for your feedback,
Jeff

Hi FFPF,

Without having a copy of your document or being able to look over
your shoulder at your monitor a 'wrong style' look isn't easy to
visualize accurately <g> Could elaborate a bit more?

I'm assuming you used File[the Orb]=>Convert when you opened the
2003 .doc file in 2007?

Was this document originated in 2003 or an earlier version?

Was it created on the same machine as the one you're viewing it on
in Print Layout view (in both) and is the printer model/driver
the same on both?

Can you create the 'correct' (same) style look in a new Word 2007
document?

==========
I have a document that is arranged using styles. Unfortunately, my
styles
aren't converted or available to be converted into QuickStyles
which is
annoying. Also, in my 2003 document, I use bullet numbering to
automatically
generate chapter numbers. When loading the document in 2007, these
are given
the wrong style.

I tried setting the right style and saving (both as 2003 and 2007
formats)
and it still loads incorrectly. >>
--
Bob Buckland ?
MS Office system products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends<<

LINKS for the 2007 Office System

1. Read about it, try it, or watch the movie
the 2007 Microsoft Office system iinfo is at
http://microsoft.com/office/preview

2. Already have 2007 Office System Beta 2?
Send Microsoft your feedback (with pictures)
http://sas.office.microsoft.com/

3. Use the 2007 OfficeOnline website without Office2007

a. Install the ActiveX access control

http://office.microsoft.com/search/redir.aspx?AssetID=XT101650581033
b. then visit http://officebeta.iponet.net

 

[FFPF]

I've sent you my two example files.

Thank you. )

I don't see the same behavior. I'm not sure if Bob is interested in
seeing your files but I am.

Remove "NoSpam4Me" to obtain a valid email address:
(e-mail address removed)

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

I apologise if this appeared a little vague. I was frustrated at the
time
and let it get the better of me. So to clarify, first to answer
your
questions.

The document was created in Word 2003 on the same machine with the
same
printer drivers et al. I opened it with the Open... command then
used the
Convert command before saving it in docx format. Only on opening
the docx
file did the styles change. The document I saved did not match the
document I
loaded.

1. Create a style that is different to normal text (say, a different
font,
bold and italic, just so it stands out).
2. Make that style have bulleted numbers
3. Type something in that style.
4. Save.
5. Open the file in Word2007
6. Convert it
7. Save it
8. Close it and reopen it. Notice how the formatting remains on the
text
but not on the number. Also notice how you can't get it to stick to
the
bullet number, even if you try to reapply it, save and reopen. The
only way
to set the bullet style is to create a custom bullet style and use
the
limited formatting options (which don't include the use of defined
styles).

I can send you two files to exhibit this behaviour. Example.doc is
a
Word2003 document. Example.docx is the resultant converted Word2007
document
that was created by loading the Example.doc, Converting and then
saving as
Word2007.

Thanks for your feedback,
Jeff

Hi FFPF,

Without having a copy of your document or being able to look over
your shoulder at your monitor a 'wrong style' look isn't easy to
visualize accurately <g> Could elaborate a bit more?

I'm assuming you used File[the Orb]=>Convert when you opened the
2003 .doc file in 2007?

Was this document originated in 2003 or an earlier version?

Was it created on the same machine as the one you're viewing it on
in Print Layout view (in both) and is the printer model/driver
the same on both?

Can you create the 'correct' (same) style look in a new Word 2007
document?

==========
I have a document that is arranged using styles. Unfortunately, my
styles
aren't converted or available to be converted into QuickStyles
which is
annoying. Also, in my 2003 document, I use bullet numbering to
automatically
generate chapter numbers. When loading the document in 2007, these
are given
the wrong style.

I tried setting the right style and saving (both as 2003 and 2007
formats)
and it still loads incorrectly. >>
--
Bob Buckland ?
MS Office system products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends<<

LINKS for the 2007 Office System

1. Read about it, try it, or watch the movie
the 2007 Microsoft Office system iinfo is at
http://microsoft.com/office/preview

2. Already have 2007 Office System Beta 2?
Send Microsoft your feedback (with pictures)
http://sas.office.microsoft.com/

3. Use the 2007 OfficeOnline website without Office2007

a. Install the ActiveX access control

http://office.microsoft.com/search/redir.aspx?AssetID=XT101650581033
b. then visit http://officebeta.iponet.net

 

[Beth Melton]

Interestingly I still don't see the behavior you describe. If I open
both sample files you sent me they look identical in Word 2007. I also
opened Doc1.doc in Word 2007, converted it, saved it, closed and
reopened and again, it looks identical to the Doc1.docx you emailed.
The number is Calibri, 16pts, Bold, Italic.

Can you provide more detail on the exact change you are seeing?

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

I've sent you my two example files.

Thank you. )

I don't see the same behavior. I'm not sure if Bob is interested in
seeing your files but I am.

I apologise if this appeared a little vague. I was frustrated at
the
time
and let it get the better of me. So to clarify, first to answer
your
questions.

The document was created in Word 2003 on the same machine with
the
same
printer drivers et al. I opened it with the Open... command then
used the
Convert command before saving it in docx format. Only on opening
the docx
file did the styles change. The document I saved did not match
the
document I
loaded.

1. Create a style that is different to normal text (say, a
different
font,
bold and italic, just so it stands out).
2. Make that style have bulleted numbers
3. Type something in that style.
4. Save.
5. Open the file in Word2007
6. Convert it
7. Save it
8. Close it and reopen it. Notice how the formatting remains on
the
text
but not on the number. Also notice how you can't get it to stick
to
the
bullet number, even if you try to reapply it, save and reopen.
The
only way
to set the bullet style is to create a custom bullet style and
use
the
limited formatting options (which don't include the use of
defined
styles).

I can send you two files to exhibit this behaviour. Example.doc
is
a
Word2003 document. Example.docx is the resultant converted
Word2007
document
that was created by loading the Example.doc, Converting and then
saving as
Word2007.

Thanks for your feedback,
Jeff

:

Hi FFPF,

Without having a copy of your document or being able to look
over
your shoulder at your monitor a 'wrong style' look isn't easy to
visualize accurately <g> Could elaborate a bit more?

I'm assuming you used File[the Orb]=>Convert when you opened the
2003 .doc file in 2007?

Was this document originated in 2003 or an earlier version?

Was it created on the same machine as the one you're viewing it
on
in Print Layout view (in both) and is the printer model/driver
the same on both?

Can you create the 'correct' (same) style look in a new Word
2007
document?

==========
I have a document that is arranged using styles. Unfortunately,
my
styles
aren't converted or available to be converted into QuickStyles
which is
annoying. Also, in my 2003 document, I use bullet numbering to
automatically
generate chapter numbers. When loading the document in 2007,
these
are given
the wrong style.

I tried setting the right style and saving (both as 2003 and
2007
formats)
and it still loads incorrectly. >>
--
Bob Buckland ?
MS Office system products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends<<

LINKS for the 2007 Office System

1. Read about it, try it, or watch the movie
the 2007 Microsoft Office system iinfo is at
http://microsoft.com/office/preview

2. Already have 2007 Office System Beta 2?
Send Microsoft your feedback (with pictures)
http://sas.office.microsoft.com/

3. Use the 2007 OfficeOnline website without Office2007

a. Install the ActiveX access control

http://office.microsoft.com/search/redir.aspx?AssetID=XT101650581033
b. then visit http://officebeta.iponet.net

 

[FFPF]

I want it to look how the original 2003 document does. On my system, opening
doc1.doc in 2007 looks different to the docx that is produced.

Interestingly I still don't see the behavior you describe. If I open
both sample files you sent me they look identical in Word 2007. I also
opened Doc1.doc in Word 2007, converted it, saved it, closed and
reopened and again, it looks identical to the Doc1.docx you emailed.
The number is Calibri, 16pts, Bold, Italic.

Can you provide more detail on the exact change you are seeing?

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

I've sent you my two example files.

Thank you. )

I don't see the same behavior. I'm not sure if Bob is interested in
seeing your files but I am.

I apologise if this appeared a little vague. I was frustrated at
the
time
and let it get the better of me. So to clarify, first to answer
your
questions.

The document was created in Word 2003 on the same machine with
the
same
printer drivers et al. I opened it with the Open... command then
used the
Convert command before saving it in docx format. Only on opening
the docx
file did the styles change. The document I saved did not match
the
document I
loaded.

1. Create a style that is different to normal text (say, a
different
font,
bold and italic, just so it stands out).
2. Make that style have bulleted numbers
3. Type something in that style.
4. Save.
5. Open the file in Word2007
6. Convert it
7. Save it
8. Close it and reopen it. Notice how the formatting remains on
the
text
but not on the number. Also notice how you can't get it to stick
to
the
bullet number, even if you try to reapply it, save and reopen.
The
only way
to set the bullet style is to create a custom bullet style and
use
the
limited formatting options (which don't include the use of
defined
styles).

I can send you two files to exhibit this behaviour. Example.doc
is
a
Word2003 document. Example.docx is the resultant converted
Word2007
document
that was created by loading the Example.doc, Converting and then
saving as
Word2007.

Thanks for your feedback,
Jeff

:

Hi FFPF,

Without having a copy of your document or being able to look
over
your shoulder at your monitor a 'wrong style' look isn't easy to
visualize accurately <g> Could elaborate a bit more?

I'm assuming you used File[the Orb]=>Convert when you opened the
2003 .doc file in 2007?

Was this document originated in 2003 or an earlier version?

Was it created on the same machine as the one you're viewing it
on
in Print Layout view (in both) and is the printer model/driver
the same on both?

Can you create the 'correct' (same) style look in a new Word
2007
document?

==========
I have a document that is arranged using styles. Unfortunately,
my
styles
aren't converted or available to be converted into QuickStyles
which is
annoying. Also, in my 2003 document, I use bullet numbering to
automatically
generate chapter numbers. When loading the document in 2007,
these
are given
the wrong style.

I tried setting the right style and saving (both as 2003 and
2007
formats)
and it still loads incorrectly. >>
--
Bob Buckland ?
MS Office system products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends<<

LINKS for the 2007 Office System

1. Read about it, try it, or watch the movie
the 2007 Microsoft Office system iinfo is at
http://microsoft.com/office/preview

2. Already have 2007 Office System Beta 2?
Send Microsoft your feedback (with pictures)
http://sas.office.microsoft.com/

3. Use the 2007 OfficeOnline website without Office2007

a. Install the ActiveX access control

http://office.microsoft.com/search/redir.aspx?AssetID=XT101650581033
b. then visit http://officebeta.iponet.net

 

[FFPF]

In the 2003 doc1.doc, the number is italic, arial and bold. In the docs, it
is as you describe.

Interestingly I still don't see the behavior you describe. If I open
both sample files you sent me they look identical in Word 2007. I also
opened Doc1.doc in Word 2007, converted it, saved it, closed and
reopened and again, it looks identical to the Doc1.docx you emailed.
The number is Calibri, 16pts, Bold, Italic.

Can you provide more detail on the exact change you are seeing?

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

I've sent you my two example files.

Thank you. )

I don't see the same behavior. I'm not sure if Bob is interested in
seeing your files but I am.

I apologise if this appeared a little vague. I was frustrated at
the
time
and let it get the better of me. So to clarify, first to answer
your
questions.

The document was created in Word 2003 on the same machine with
the
same
printer drivers et al. I opened it with the Open... command then
used the
Convert command before saving it in docx format. Only on opening
the docx
file did the styles change. The document I saved did not match
the
document I
loaded.

1. Create a style that is different to normal text (say, a
different
font,
bold and italic, just so it stands out).
2. Make that style have bulleted numbers
3. Type something in that style.
4. Save.
5. Open the file in Word2007
6. Convert it
7. Save it
8. Close it and reopen it. Notice how the formatting remains on
the
text
but not on the number. Also notice how you can't get it to stick
to
the
bullet number, even if you try to reapply it, save and reopen.
The
only way
to set the bullet style is to create a custom bullet style and
use
the
limited formatting options (which don't include the use of
defined
styles).

I can send you two files to exhibit this behaviour. Example.doc
is
a
Word2003 document. Example.docx is the resultant converted
Word2007
document
that was created by loading the Example.doc, Converting and then
saving as
Word2007.

Thanks for your feedback,
Jeff

:

Hi FFPF,

Without having a copy of your document or being able to look
over
your shoulder at your monitor a 'wrong style' look isn't easy to
visualize accurately <g> Could elaborate a bit more?

I'm assuming you used File[the Orb]=>Convert when you opened the
2003 .doc file in 2007?

Was this document originated in 2003 or an earlier version?

Was it created on the same machine as the one you're viewing it
on
in Print Layout view (in both) and is the printer model/driver
the same on both?

Can you create the 'correct' (same) style look in a new Word
2007
document?

==========
I have a document that is arranged using styles. Unfortunately,
my
styles
aren't converted or available to be converted into QuickStyles
which is
annoying. Also, in my 2003 document, I use bullet numbering to
automatically
generate chapter numbers. When loading the document in 2007,
these
are given
the wrong style.

I tried setting the right style and saving (both as 2003 and
2007
formats)
and it still loads incorrectly. >>
--
Bob Buckland ?
MS Office system products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends<<

LINKS for the 2007 Office System

1. Read about it, try it, or watch the movie
the 2007 Microsoft Office system iinfo is at
http://microsoft.com/office/preview

2. Already have 2007 Office System Beta 2?
Send Microsoft your feedback (with pictures)
http://sas.office.microsoft.com/

3. Use the 2007 OfficeOnline website without Office2007

a. Install the ActiveX access control

http://office.microsoft.com/search/redir.aspx?AssetID=XT101650581033
b. then visit http://officebeta.iponet.net

 

[Beth Melton]

Okay, to recap so I understand what you are seeing:

Word 2003: The style definition for Style 1 is Arial, Bold and Italic

Word 2007: The style definition for Style 1 becomes Calibri, Bold and
Italic

Correct?

Does all of the text change or is it only the number? Can you provide
the exact steps you used to create the style in Word 2003?

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

In the 2003 doc1.doc, the number is italic, arial and bold. In the
docs, it
is as you describe.

Interestingly I still don't see the behavior you describe. If I
open
both sample files you sent me they look identical in Word 2007. I
also
opened Doc1.doc in Word 2007, converted it, saved it, closed and
reopened and again, it looks identical to the Doc1.docx you
emailed.
The number is Calibri, 16pts, Bold, Italic.

Can you provide more detail on the exact change you are seeing?

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

I've sent you my two example files.

Thank you. )

:

I don't see the same behavior. I'm not sure if Bob is interested
in
seeing your files but I am.

I apologise if this appeared a little vague. I was frustrated
at
the
time
and let it get the better of me. So to clarify, first to
answer
your
questions.

The document was created in Word 2003 on the same machine with
the
same
printer drivers et al. I opened it with the Open... command
then
used the
Convert command before saving it in docx format. Only on
opening
the docx
file did the styles change. The document I saved did not match
the
document I
loaded.

1. Create a style that is different to normal text (say, a
different
font,
bold and italic, just so it stands out).
2. Make that style have bulleted numbers
3. Type something in that style.
4. Save.
5. Open the file in Word2007
6. Convert it
7. Save it
8. Close it and reopen it. Notice how the formatting remains
on
the
text
but not on the number. Also notice how you can't get it to
stick
to
the
bullet number, even if you try to reapply it, save and reopen.
The
only way
to set the bullet style is to create a custom bullet style and
use
the
limited formatting options (which don't include the use of
defined
styles).

I can send you two files to exhibit this behaviour.
Example.doc
is
a
Word2003 document. Example.docx is the resultant converted
Word2007
document
that was created by loading the Example.doc, Converting and
then
saving as
Word2007.

Thanks for your feedback,
Jeff

:

Hi FFPF,

Without having a copy of your document or being able to look
over
your shoulder at your monitor a 'wrong style' look isn't easy
to
visualize accurately <g> Could elaborate a bit more?

I'm assuming you used File[the Orb]=>Convert when you opened
the
2003 .doc file in 2007?

Was this document originated in 2003 or an earlier version?

Was it created on the same machine as the one you're viewing
it
on
in Print Layout view (in both) and is the printer
model/driver
the same on both?

Can you create the 'correct' (same) style look in a new Word
2007
document?

==========
I have a document that is arranged using styles.
Unfortunately,
my
styles
aren't converted or available to be converted into
QuickStyles
which is
annoying. Also, in my 2003 document, I use bullet numbering
to
automatically
generate chapter numbers. When loading the document in 2007,
these
are given
the wrong style.

I tried setting the right style and saving (both as 2003 and
2007
formats)
and it still loads incorrectly. >>
--
Bob Buckland ?
MS Office system products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends<<

LINKS for the 2007 Office System

1. Read about it, try it, or watch the movie
the 2007 Microsoft Office system iinfo is at
http://microsoft.com/office/preview

2. Already have 2007 Office System Beta 2?
Send Microsoft your feedback (with pictures)
http://sas.office.microsoft.com/

3. Use the 2007 OfficeOnline website without Office2007

a. Install the ActiveX access control

http://office.microsoft.com/search/redir.aspx?AssetID=XT101650581033
b. then visit http://officebeta.iponet.net

 

[FFPF]

The style is Chapter Number in those documents. It is just a style that has
bulleted numbers. It is just the appearance of the bulleted number that
changes from what I can tell.

I cannot provide exact steps for creating the style as I did it sometime ago
and don't have 2003 on hand to try again. It was pretty simple from what I
recall (as an earlier post describes).

Okay, to recap so I understand what you are seeing:

Word 2003: The style definition for Style 1 is Arial, Bold and Italic

Word 2007: The style definition for Style 1 becomes Calibri, Bold and
Italic

Correct?

Does all of the text change or is it only the number? Can you provide
the exact steps you used to create the style in Word 2003?

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

In the 2003 doc1.doc, the number is italic, arial and bold. In the
docs, it
is as you describe.

Interestingly I still don't see the behavior you describe. If I
open
both sample files you sent me they look identical in Word 2007. I
also
opened Doc1.doc in Word 2007, converted it, saved it, closed and
reopened and again, it looks identical to the Doc1.docx you
emailed.
The number is Calibri, 16pts, Bold, Italic.

Can you provide more detail on the exact change you are seeing?

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/


I've sent you my two example files.

Thank you. )

:

I don't see the same behavior. I'm not sure if Bob is interested
in
seeing your files but I am.


I apologise if this appeared a little vague. I was frustrated
at
the
time
and let it get the better of me. So to clarify, first to
answer
your
questions.

The document was created in Word 2003 on the same machine with
the
same
printer drivers et al. I opened it with the Open... command
then
used the
Convert command before saving it in docx format. Only on
opening
the docx
file did the styles change. The document I saved did not match
the
document I
loaded.

1. Create a style that is different to normal text (say, a
different
font,
bold and italic, just so it stands out).
2. Make that style have bulleted numbers
3. Type something in that style.
4. Save.
5. Open the file in Word2007
6. Convert it
7. Save it
8. Close it and reopen it. Notice how the formatting remains
on
the
text
but not on the number. Also notice how you can't get it to
stick
to
the
bullet number, even if you try to reapply it, save and reopen.
The
only way
to set the bullet style is to create a custom bullet style and
use
the
limited formatting options (which don't include the use of
defined
styles).

I can send you two files to exhibit this behaviour.
Example.doc
is
a
Word2003 document. Example.docx is the resultant converted
Word2007
document
that was created by loading the Example.doc, Converting and
then
saving as
Word2007.

Thanks for your feedback,
Jeff

:

Hi FFPF,

Without having a copy of your document or being able to look
over
your shoulder at your monitor a 'wrong style' look isn't easy
to
visualize accurately <g> Could elaborate a bit more?

I'm assuming you used File[the Orb]=>Convert when you opened
the
2003 .doc file in 2007?

Was this document originated in 2003 or an earlier version?

Was it created on the same machine as the one you're viewing
it
on
in Print Layout view (in both) and is the printer
model/driver
the same on both?

Can you create the 'correct' (same) style look in a new Word
2007
document?

==========
I have a document that is arranged using styles.
Unfortunately,
my
styles
aren't converted or available to be converted into
QuickStyles
which is
annoying. Also, in my 2003 document, I use bullet numbering
to
automatically
generate chapter numbers. When loading the document in 2007,
these
are given
the wrong style.

I tried setting the right style and saving (both as 2003 and
2007
formats)
and it still loads incorrectly. >>
--
Bob Buckland ?
MS Office system products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends<<

LINKS for the 2007 Office System

1. Read about it, try it, or watch the movie
the 2007 Microsoft Office system iinfo is at
http://microsoft.com/office/preview

2. Already have 2007 Office System Beta 2?
Send Microsoft your feedback (with pictures)
http://sas.office.microsoft.com/

3. Use the 2007 OfficeOnline website without Office2007

a. Install the ActiveX access control

http://office.microsoft.com/search/redir.aspx?AssetID=XT101650581033
b. then visit http://officebeta.iponet.net

 

[Beth Melton]

Okay, now that I have your updated Example files I see what you are
seeing too. Thank you for resending them - you had me scratching my
head there for awhile!

I believe this is due to using a customize number format rather than
one of the built-in number formats in Word 2003.

To correct the issue in Word 2007 perform the following:
- On the Home tab, in the Styles group click the Dialog Launcher
(arrow in the bottom right corner) to open the Styles and Formatting
task pane
- Open the menu next to your Chapter Number style and select Modify
- From the Format button, click Numbering
- Click the "Define New Number Format" button at the bottom
- Click the Font button and change your font to Arial, Bold, Italic,
48
- Click OK to close each dialog and see if the document is now
formatted correctly

I've also submitted feedback on this behavior so we'll see what
happens.

Thanks!

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

The style is Chapter Number in those documents. It is just a style
that has
bulleted numbers. It is just the appearance of the bulleted number
that
changes from what I can tell.

I cannot provide exact steps for creating the style as I did it
sometime ago
and don't have 2003 on hand to try again. It was pretty simple from
what I
recall (as an earlier post describes).

Okay, to recap so I understand what you are seeing:

Word 2003: The style definition for Style 1 is Arial, Bold and
Italic

Word 2007: The style definition for Style 1 becomes Calibri, Bold
and
Italic

Correct?

Does all of the text change or is it only the number? Can you
provide
the exact steps you used to create the style in Word 2003?

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

In the 2003 doc1.doc, the number is italic, arial and bold. In
the
docs, it
is as you describe.

:

Interestingly I still don't see the behavior you describe. If I
open
both sample files you sent me they look identical in Word 2007.
I
also
opened Doc1.doc in Word 2007, converted it, saved it, closed and
reopened and again, it looks identical to the Doc1.docx you
emailed.
The number is Calibri, 16pts, Bold, Italic.

Can you provide more detail on the exact change you are seeing?

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests
for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/


I've sent you my two example files.

Thank you. )

:

I don't see the same behavior. I'm not sure if Bob is
interested
in
seeing your files but I am.


I apologise if this appeared a little vague. I was
frustrated
at
the
time
and let it get the better of me. So to clarify, first to
answer
your
questions.

The document was created in Word 2003 on the same machine
with
the
same
printer drivers et al. I opened it with the Open...
command
then
used the
Convert command before saving it in docx format. Only on
opening
the docx
file did the styles change. The document I saved did not
match
the
document I
loaded.

1. Create a style that is different to normal text (say, a
different
font,
bold and italic, just so it stands out).
2. Make that style have bulleted numbers
3. Type something in that style.
4. Save.
5. Open the file in Word2007
6. Convert it
7. Save it
8. Close it and reopen it. Notice how the formatting
remains
on
the
text
but not on the number. Also notice how you can't get it to
stick
to
the
bullet number, even if you try to reapply it, save and
reopen.
The
only way
to set the bullet style is to create a custom bullet style
and
use
the
limited formatting options (which don't include the use of
defined
styles).

I can send you two files to exhibit this behaviour.
Example.doc
is
a
Word2003 document. Example.docx is the resultant converted
Word2007
document
that was created by loading the Example.doc, Converting and
then
saving as
Word2007.

Thanks for your feedback,
Jeff

:

Hi FFPF,

Without having a copy of your document or being able to
look
over
your shoulder at your monitor a 'wrong style' look isn't
easy
to
visualize accurately <g> Could elaborate a bit more?

I'm assuming you used File[the Orb]=>Convert when you
opened
the
2003 .doc file in 2007?

Was this document originated in 2003 or an earlier
version?

Was it created on the same machine as the one you're
viewing
it
on
in Print Layout view (in both) and is the printer
model/driver
the same on both?

Can you create the 'correct' (same) style look in a new
Word
2007
document?

==========
message
I have a document that is arranged using styles.
Unfortunately,
my
styles
aren't converted or available to be converted into
QuickStyles
which is
annoying. Also, in my 2003 document, I use bullet
numbering
to
automatically
generate chapter numbers. When loading the document in
2007,
these
are given
the wrong style.

I tried setting the right style and saving (both as 2003
and
2007
formats)
and it still loads incorrectly. >>
--
Bob Buckland ?
MS Office system products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends<<

LINKS for the 2007 Office System

1. Read about it, try it, or watch the movie
the 2007 Microsoft Office system iinfo is at
http://microsoft.com/office/preview

2. Already have 2007 Office System Beta 2?
Send Microsoft your feedback (with pictures)
http://sas.office.microsoft.com/

3. Use the 2007 OfficeOnline website without Office2007

a. Install the ActiveX access control

http://office.microsoft.com/search/redir.aspx?AssetID=XT101650581033
b. then visit http://officebeta.iponet.net

 

[FFPF]

Thanks for your quick responses. I'm so sorry for the confusion, I should
know better.

There are two points regarding this that I'd hope to see addressed:
1. The file should load and look the same
2. It should be possible to pick a style or quick style for custom number
formats (it's rather irritating to have to remember the formatting settings).

I can understand if point 2 doesn't get addressed as it has its own issues
to address.

Thanks again for your responses. We got there in the end.

Jeff

Okay, now that I have your updated Example files I see what you are
seeing too. Thank you for resending them - you had me scratching my
head there for awhile!

I believe this is due to using a customize number format rather than
one of the built-in number formats in Word 2003.

To correct the issue in Word 2007 perform the following:
- On the Home tab, in the Styles group click the Dialog Launcher
(arrow in the bottom right corner) to open the Styles and Formatting
task pane
- Open the menu next to your Chapter Number style and select Modify
- From the Format button, click Numbering
- Click the "Define New Number Format" button at the bottom
- Click the Font button and change your font to Arial, Bold, Italic,
48
- Click OK to close each dialog and see if the document is now
formatted correctly

I've also submitted feedback on this behavior so we'll see what
happens.

Thanks!

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

The style is Chapter Number in those documents. It is just a style
that has
bulleted numbers. It is just the appearance of the bulleted number
that
changes from what I can tell.

I cannot provide exact steps for creating the style as I did it
sometime ago
and don't have 2003 on hand to try again. It was pretty simple from
what I
recall (as an earlier post describes).

Okay, to recap so I understand what you are seeing:

Word 2003: The style definition for Style 1 is Arial, Bold and
Italic

Word 2007: The style definition for Style 1 becomes Calibri, Bold
and
Italic

Correct?

Does all of the text change or is it only the number? Can you
provide
the exact steps you used to create the style in Word 2003?

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/


In the 2003 doc1.doc, the number is italic, arial and bold. In
the
docs, it
is as you describe.

:

Interestingly I still don't see the behavior you describe. If I
open
both sample files you sent me they look identical in Word 2007.
I
also
opened Doc1.doc in Word 2007, converted it, saved it, closed and
reopened and again, it looks identical to the Doc1.docx you
emailed.
The number is Calibri, 16pts, Bold, Italic.

Can you provide more detail on the exact change you are seeing?

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests
for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/


I've sent you my two example files.

Thank you. )

:

I don't see the same behavior. I'm not sure if Bob is
interested
in
seeing your files but I am.


I apologise if this appeared a little vague. I was
frustrated
at
the
time
and let it get the better of me. So to clarify, first to
answer
your
questions.

The document was created in Word 2003 on the same machine
with
the
same
printer drivers et al. I opened it with the Open...
command
then
used the
Convert command before saving it in docx format. Only on
opening
the docx
file did the styles change. The document I saved did not
match
the
document I
loaded.

1. Create a style that is different to normal text (say, a
different
font,
bold and italic, just so it stands out).
2. Make that style have bulleted numbers
3. Type something in that style.
4. Save.
5. Open the file in Word2007
6. Convert it
7. Save it
8. Close it and reopen it. Notice how the formatting
remains
on
the
text
but not on the number. Also notice how you can't get it to
stick
to
the
bullet number, even if you try to reapply it, save and
reopen.
The
only way
to set the bullet style is to create a custom bullet style
and
use
the
limited formatting options (which don't include the use of
defined
styles).

I can send you two files to exhibit this behaviour.
Example.doc
is
a
Word2003 document. Example.docx is the resultant converted
Word2007
document
that was created by loading the Example.doc, Converting and
then
saving as
Word2007.

Thanks for your feedback,
Jeff

:

Hi FFPF,

Without having a copy of your document or being able to
look
over
your shoulder at your monitor a 'wrong style' look isn't
easy
to
visualize accurately <g> Could elaborate a bit more?

I'm assuming you used File[the Orb]=>Convert when you
opened
the
2003 .doc file in 2007?

Was this document originated in 2003 or an earlier
version?

Was it created on the same machine as the one you're
viewing
it
on
in Print Layout view (in both) and is the printer
model/driver
the same on both?

Can you create the 'correct' (same) style look in a new
Word
2007
document?

==========
message
I have a document that is arranged using styles.
Unfortunately,
my
styles
aren't converted or available to be converted into
QuickStyles
which is
annoying. Also, in my 2003 document, I use bullet
numbering
to
automatically
generate chapter numbers. When loading the document in
2007,
these
are given
the wrong style.

I tried setting the right style and saving (both as 2003
and
2007
formats)
and it still loads incorrectly. >>
--
Bob Buckland ?
MS Office system products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends<<

LINKS for the 2007 Office System

1. Read about it, try it, or watch the movie
the 2007 Microsoft Office system iinfo is at
http://microsoft.com/office/preview

2. Already have 2007 Office System Beta 2?
Send Microsoft your feedback (with pictures)
http://sas.office.microsoft.com/

3. Use the 2007 OfficeOnline website without Office2007

a. Install the ActiveX access control

http://office.microsoft.com/search/redir.aspx?AssetID=XT101650581033
b. then visit http://officebeta.iponet.net

 

[Beth Melton]

I agree, the file should look the same and I do know this is an area
in which MS has invested a lot of work. But since this is beta there
are some bugs that still need to be worked out.

For your second point, you'll find Number format,s and the ability to
define new custom number formats, under the Numbering or Multilevel
List galleries on the Home tab. If you want Word to make a custom
number format available to all documents then right-click the custom
format and select "Add to Library" or "Save in My Lists" depending on
whether you are using the Numbering or Multilevel List gallery.

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

Thanks for your quick responses. I'm so sorry for the confusion, I
should
know better.

There are two points regarding this that I'd hope to see addressed:
1. The file should load and look the same
2. It should be possible to pick a style or quick style for custom
number
formats (it's rather irritating to have to remember the formatting
settings).

I can understand if point 2 doesn't get addressed as it has its own
issues
to address.

Thanks again for your responses. We got there in the end.

Jeff

Okay, now that I have your updated Example files I see what you are
seeing too. Thank you for resending them - you had me scratching my
head there for awhile!

I believe this is due to using a customize number format rather
than
one of the built-in number formats in Word 2003.

To correct the issue in Word 2007 perform the following:
- On the Home tab, in the Styles group click the Dialog Launcher
(arrow in the bottom right corner) to open the Styles and
Formatting
task pane
- Open the menu next to your Chapter Number style and select Modify
- From the Format button, click Numbering
- Click the "Define New Number Format" button at the bottom
- Click the Font button and change your font to Arial, Bold,
Italic,
48
- Click OK to close each dialog and see if the document is now
formatted correctly

I've also submitted feedback on this behavior so we'll see what
happens.

Thanks!

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/

The style is Chapter Number in those documents. It is just a
style
that has
bulleted numbers. It is just the appearance of the bulleted
number
that
changes from what I can tell.

I cannot provide exact steps for creating the style as I did it
sometime ago
and don't have 2003 on hand to try again. It was pretty simple
from
what I
recall (as an earlier post describes).

:

Okay, to recap so I understand what you are seeing:

Word 2003: The style definition for Style 1 is Arial, Bold and
Italic

Word 2007: The style definition for Style 1 becomes Calibri,
Bold
and
Italic

Correct?

Does all of the text change or is it only the number? Can you
provide
the exact steps you used to create the style in Word 2003?

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests
for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/


In the 2003 doc1.doc, the number is italic, arial and bold.
In
the
docs, it
is as you describe.

:

Interestingly I still don't see the behavior you describe. If
I
open
both sample files you sent me they look identical in Word
2007.
I
also
opened Doc1.doc in Word 2007, converted it, saved it, closed
and
reopened and again, it looks identical to the Doc1.docx you
emailed.
The number is Calibri, 16pts, Bold, Italic.

Can you provide more detail on the exact change you are
seeing?

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup.
Requests
for
assistance by email can not be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/


I've sent you my two example files.

Thank you. )

:

I don't see the same behavior. I'm not sure if Bob is
interested
in
seeing your files but I am.


I apologise if this appeared a little vague. I was
frustrated
at
the
time
and let it get the better of me. So to clarify, first
to
answer
your
questions.

The document was created in Word 2003 on the same
machine
with
the
same
printer drivers et al. I opened it with the Open...
command
then
used the
Convert command before saving it in docx format. Only
on
opening
the docx
file did the styles change. The document I saved did not
match
the
document I
loaded.

1. Create a style that is different to normal text (say,
a
different
font,
bold and italic, just so it stands out).
2. Make that style have bulleted numbers
3. Type something in that style.
4. Save.
5. Open the file in Word2007
6. Convert it
7. Save it
8. Close it and reopen it. Notice how the formatting
remains
on
the
text
but not on the number. Also notice how you can't get it
to
stick
to
the
bullet number, even if you try to reapply it, save and
reopen.
The
only way
to set the bullet style is to create a custom bullet
style
and
use
the
limited formatting options (which don't include the use
of
defined
styles).

I can send you two files to exhibit this behaviour.
Example.doc
is
a
Word2003 document. Example.docx is the resultant
converted
Word2007
document
that was created by loading the Example.doc, Converting
and
then
saving as
Word2007.

Thanks for your feedback,
Jeff

:

Hi FFPF,

Without having a copy of your document or being able to
look
over
your shoulder at your monitor a 'wrong style' look
isn't
easy
to
visualize accurately <g> Could elaborate a bit more?

I'm assuming you used File[the Orb]=>Convert when you
opened
the
2003 .doc file in 2007?

Was this document originated in 2003 or an earlier
version?

Was it created on the same machine as the one you're
viewing
it
on
in Print Layout view (in both) and is the printer
model/driver
the same on both?

Can you create the 'correct' (same) style look in a new
Word
2007
document?

==========
message
I have a document that is arranged using styles.
Unfortunately,
my
styles
aren't converted or available to be converted into
QuickStyles
which is
annoying. Also, in my 2003 document, I use bullet
numbering
to
automatically
generate chapter numbers. When loading the document in
2007,
these
are given
the wrong style.

I tried setting the right style and saving (both as
2003
and
2007
formats)
and it still loads incorrectly. >>
--
Bob Buckland ?
MS Office system products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big
dividends<<

LINKS for the 2007 Office System

1. Read about it, try it, or watch the movie
the 2007 Microsoft Office system iinfo is at
http://microsoft.com/office/preview

2. Already have 2007 Office System Beta 2?
Send Microsoft your feedback (with pictures)
http://sas.office.microsoft.com/

3. Use the 2007 OfficeOnline website without
Office2007

a. Install the ActiveX access control

http://office.microsoft.com/search/redir.aspx?AssetID=XT101650581033
b. then visit http://officebeta.iponet.net