Word does not see picture for printing

[christophermark]

A picture/photograph inserted and fully visible in Page Layout view on the
front page, does not appear in: outline view, print preview, or in quick
priview (in print dialoge box), and of course doesn't print. Also, quick
preview has decided in default to print the pages backwards, from page 8 to
pg 1 instead of the other way round, calling pg 8 = 1, 7 = 2 etc. Any ideas
what is happening and how to get the picture to print and to pages to print
in order would be greatly appreciated.
christopher

 

[Elliott Roper]

A picture/photograph inserted and fully visible in Page Layout view on the
front page, does not appear in: outline view, print preview, or in quick
priview (in print dialoge box), and of course doesn't print. Also, quick
preview has decided in default to print the pages backwards, from page 8 to
pg 1 instead of the other way round, calling pg 8 = 1, 7 = 2 etc. Any ideas
what is happening and how to get the picture to print and to pages to print
in order would be greatly appreciated.

Somebody has been mucking about with your preferences?
Preferences » Print
Uncheck "reverse print order"
Check "hidden text"
The latter might make your image visible in print and print preview and
all its uncles and aunts.
Of course, that is not the root cause. It would be better to select the
illustration, choose Format » Font and uncheck "hidden" in the effects
section of that dialog.

 

[CyberTaz]

I'm guessing that the picture is formatted with Text Wrapping set to
something other than In Line with Text - In which case it will not display
in Outline view or Normal view. That is how it should be... Those views do
not display content which is in the graphics "layer" of the doc.

Most likely the image doesn't print or display in Print Preview because the
check has been cleared in Word> Preferences> Print for Drawing Objects.
Restore the check & all should be peachy.

If this isn't the cure post back with any additional detail you can offer,
to include what version of Word you're using... That might make a difference
and should always be stated along with OS version. It might also be a print
driver issue, but more o that if need be

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

 

[Elliott Roper]

I'm guessing that the picture is formatted with Text Wrapping set to
something other than In Line with Text - In which case it will not
display in Outline view or Normal view. That is how it should be...
Those views do not display content which is in the graphics "layer" of
the doc.

That was something I didn't know. Makes sense.

Most likely the image doesn't print or display in Print Preview because the
check has been cleared in Word> Preferences> Print for Drawing Objects.
Restore the check & all should be peachy.

That was my first thought, but I checked that preference made no
difference to an inserted photograph. Indeed the tooltip help in the
prefs dialogues explains it applies only to drawing objects created
with the Office drawing tools.
The only way I could lose printed photos was to set its hidden
attribute, so my money is still on that.

 

[Elliott Roper]

That is certainly what one would be led to believe - and it seems like
that's how it *used* to be. However it isn't what I'm experiencing here.
Regardless of whether I use Insert> Picture or copy/paste - I've tried with
jpeg, png, tiff & gif - if the image has text wrapping of any type applied
it doesn't appear in Print Preview & subsequently doesn't appear in the
Quick preview or on paper. As soon as the images are reformatted as In Line
they show up & print. In fact I can swap in/out of the Prefs while in Print
Preview to display/hide the images.

Once again, you are right. The *combination* of (not inline with text)
and (include with document » uncheck drawing objects) does indeed
disappear the image.

In other words anything in the graphics layer == drawing object
at least as far as the prefs is concerned. The tooltip is lying to us.

Well spotted!

 

[John McGhie]

Hi Christopher:

I didn't see anyone suggest "Hidden Paragraph" to you. If the picture is
inline and mounted on a paragraph that has the HIDDEN Font property, the
picture will appear on screen but not print.

The only other things I can think of are that the picture is not RGB colour
standard, or it's too big.

Office 2004 cannot cope with anything above 24-bit colour: you may need to
re-save the image as RGB. If the resolution of the picture is too high,
your printer may run out of memory trying to rasterise the image.

Hope this helps

A picture/photograph inserted and fully visible in Page Layout view on the
front page, does not appear in: outline view, print preview, or in quick
priview (in print dialoge box), and of course doesn't print. Also, quick
preview has decided in default to print the pages backwards, from page 8 to
pg 1 instead of the other way round, calling pg 8 = 1, 7 = 2 etc. Any ideas
what is happening and how to get the picture to print and to pages to print
in order would be greatly appreciated.
christopher

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[CyberTaz]

and (include with document » uncheck drawing objects) does indeed
disappear the image.

In other words anything in the graphics layer == drawing object
at least as far as the prefs is concerned. The tooltip is lying to us.

Well spotted!

<snip>

Why, thank you kind sir! I actually am relieved that you were able to
reproduce, as I was beginning to think perhaps my installation was going
bonkers... I have a curious situation with XL right now that I haven't been
able to resolve or explain as yet.

I think your assessment is right on - if it's in the Drawing Layer Word
treats it as a Drawing Object even if it wasn't created with the shape
tools. What I haven't had an opportunity to fiddle with is whether the
Printer Driver has any impact on the issue. Doesn't seem like it should, but
ya just never know

 

[Elliott Roper]

<snip>

Why, thank you kind sir! I actually am relieved that you were able to
reproduce, as I was beginning to think perhaps my installation was going
bonkers... I have a curious situation with XL right now that I haven't been
able to resolve or explain as yet.

That's what this group is good for. You get to learn more new things
every time you offer (crap) advice. ;-)

I think your assessment is right on - it's in the Drawing Layer Word
treats it as a Drawing Object even if it wasn't created with the shape
tools. What I haven't had an opportunity to fiddle with is whether the
Printer Driver has any impact on the issue. Doesn't seem like it should, but
ya just never know

I have two printers here. A quick test using Preview with each selected
shows that the picture disappears if it is not in line with text and
the preference is set to not show drawing objects.

Christopher. If you are still following this increasingly esoteric
discussion, you have two things to look for:-
If your picture is in line with text (format » picture), check that it
is not hidden text in format » font while you have the picture
selected.
If it is not inline with text, check the preferences » print » include
with document » drawing objects is checked.
If either of those don't fix it, you might need to offer me some advice
in choosing a hat digesting enzyme.