Word in Office 2008 crashes

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gberkson

Cannot get Word to run. After about 5 seconds, it crashes. Have reinstalled
several times, trashed all .pslist files, preference files/folders, etc. Have
done everything short of creating a new user in OSX. Entourage and Excel work
fine. Know others have had problems but have not yet found a solution that
works. Even booting in Safe Mode doesn't solve the problem.
 
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Phillip Jones

Before you delete and reinstall, try the following look the Normal.dotm
if your using Office2008, or Normal for Office 2004

Place in Trash and try opening.

If opens successfully. Then redo any special setups you had (margins,
fonts ,etc.). then save the empty file you have as a dummy file. when
prompted if you want to save changes to normal. click on yes.

Locate the dummy file you created and throw in trash and empty.
Cannot get Word to run. After about 5 seconds, it crashes. Have reinstalled
several times, trashed all .pslist files, preference files/folders, etc. Have
done everything short of creating a new user in OSX. Entourage and Excel work
fine. Know others have had problems but have not yet found a solution that
works. Even booting in Safe Mode doesn't solve the problem.

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C

CyberTaz

Some particulars would be most helpful in this type of situation:

Which specific *version* of OS X? What type of Mac?
Was any other version of Office installed before you installed 2008?
Did you run Remove Office if there was a prior version?
Is it a complete new installation or an upgrade?
Did you repair disk permissions after the installation?

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
 
G

gberkson

Replying to the previous post first: there is no Normal.dotm. I've used
FileBuddy to search and it does not exist.

As regards CyberTaz questions:

OSX 10.5.1, G4 Dual 1.42 MMD
Office 2004 was installed. Remove Office ran and removed the old version.
New installation. Repaired permissions (I'm 99% sure).

When I do create a new user account, Word does not crash so I'm sort of
prepared to go through the hassle of transferring all of my files. But it
would sure be nice if i could get Word to work without doing all of that.
 
D

droppen7

Only 1 of 2 users on my PowerBook makes Word to crash. Even tried to copy the "Normal.dotm"-file frpm the good to the bad user. But no, Word still crashes after 5 sec.
 
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Phillip Jones

If your using Office2008 its called Normal.dotm

Prior to Office 2008 its called Normal with no extension.

You find file in Finder and choose: Name *is* Normal

then start the find process.

Replying to the previous post first: there is no Normal.dotm. I've used
FileBuddy to search and it does not exist.

As regards CyberTaz questions:

OSX 10.5.1, G4 Dual 1.42 MMD
Office 2004 was installed. Remove Office ran and removed the old version.
New installation. Repaired permissions (I'm 99% sure).

When I do create a new user account, Word does not crash so I'm sort of
prepared to go through the hassle of transferring all of my files. But it
would sure be nice if i could get Word to work without doing all of that.

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616 Liberty Street |Who's Who. PHONE:276-632-5045, FAX:276-632-0868
Martinsville Va 24112 |[email protected], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet
------------------------------------------------------------------------

If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!

mailto:p[email protected]

<http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/default.htm>
<http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/90th_Birthday/index.htm>
<http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Fulcher/default.html>
<http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Harris/default.htm>
<http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Jones/default.htm>

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C

CyberTaz

Unfortunately the move/rename Normal.dotm may not work for you here because
Word has not been able to create one as yet - that may be the problem. In
order for the file to be created Word has to successfully launch at least
one time - my understanding is that it hasn't done so. (I don't believe the
Normal.dotm is created as a part of the installation, but honestly am not
sure.) As a result there is no file by that name, and even if there were it
would not be usable. So...

The question is "Why won't the original user account allow Word to create
the file?". If you have an answer to that it may solve the problem:) IMHO,
since you can successfully install Office in a new user account it would
most likely be less trouble to go ahead & use it rather than trying to
troubleshoot & repair the uncooperative one. Crash on launch is historically
tied to a) permissions problems, b) add-in conflicts, c) corrupt Normal, and
d) update status. Since the last 2 are pretty much out of the question, I'd
suggest that you first run a permissions repair, restart your Mac & see if
that makes a difference.

Corrupt fonts may also be at play here & restarting will clear the caches,
but there could be a font problem in the original user account. Since I
haven't had the opportunity to install from the retail package as yet I'm
not certain whether Word needs the font stuff first or not, but it can't
hurt to validate your fonts just to be on the safe side. Font-related or not
the problem seems to be with that user account.

The only other suggestion I can offer would be to run Remove Office, repair
permissions, restart & attempt the installation again - but perhaps others
will have alternatives to offer.
 
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CyberTaz

You might also have a look at the later posts from (e-mail address removed)
entitled: Prefs don't save. The suggestions from John McGhie may be useful
in your case as well.

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
 
V

vincefrandina

I don;'t have that problem of it crashing after 5 seconds. It's
whenever I'm typing and when I happen to place an ( in , I can still
type. As soon as I place a ), then it'll crash on me. Very odd, as I
never had this problem up until a few days ago.
 
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John McGhie

OK, you have a different issue. In your case, the spelling checker/grammar
checker is crashing because of something I does not like in the structure of
that document.

With Word shut down, Find and re-name your Normal template.

Re-start Word, and try again in a blank document. The problem should be
fixed.

If it is, CAREFULLY select everything EXCEPT the last paragraph mark in the
bad document, copy, and paste into a new clean blank document, then save
under a different file name.

That might fix it: if it doesn't, come back and I will suggest some other
things.

Cheers


I don;'t have that problem of it crashing after 5 seconds. It's
whenever I'm typing and when I happen to place an ( in , I can still
type. As soon as I place a ), then it'll crash on me. Very odd, as I
never had this problem up until a few days ago.

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gberkson

Thanks to all. At this point I am leaving the discussion topic. After
numerous investigations I agree that it's better to create a new user than
try and find the trouble with my current one. Besides, other little oddities
have turned up (unreleated to Word) that probably indicate something nasty
hiding within my user stuff (like Time Machine saying it can't do a backup
because there is only 700 GB available and it requires 503000098298984.93
GB!!!!!!!)
 
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Teo

Replying to the previous post first: there is no Normal.dotm. I've used
FileBuddy to search and it does not exist.

As regards CyberTaz questions:

OSX 10.5.1, G4 Dual 1.42 MMD
Office 2004 was installed. Remove Office ran and removed the old version.
New installation. Repaired permissions (I'm 99% sure).

When I do create a new user account, Word does notcrashso I'm sort of
prepared to go through the hassle of transferring all of my files. But it
would sure be nice if i could get Word to work without doing all of that.

Hi,

I have the same problem but only when spelling documents in Italian
(English and German are OK).
I have Office 2008 installed on a machine with Office 2004 (removed at
the end of the installation).
I am running an iMac G5 with Leopard.

Matteo
 
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John McGhie

Hi Teo:

No, you have a very DIFFERENT problem :)

See the answers to your other questions.

Please don't jump in on unrelated threads like that: you run the risk that
the people who could answer your specific question will never see your
message because they think this thread has already been closed :)

Cheers


Hi,

I have the same problem but only when spelling documents in Italian
(English and German are OK).
I have Office 2008 installed on a machine with Office 2004 (removed at
the end of the installation).
I am running an iMac G5 with Leopard.

Matteo

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Teo

Hi Teo:

No, you have a very DIFFERENT problem :)

Not sure, the OP is speaking about a crash after some time: this
happens also in my case: it crashes when I type the first misspelled
word. Therefore I though that both problems could be related. Maybe
the OP didn't notice that the problem occurs when the spell checker
kicks in.
See the answers to your other questions.

Please don't jump in on unrelated threads like that: you run the risk that
the people who could answer your specific question will never see your
message because they think this thread has already been closed :)

Ok I'll begin a new thread with a clearer description but I am somehow
conviced that the problems could be related :)

Thanks

Matteo
 
J

John McGhie

Hi Matteo:

No, this thread is about problems related to preferences. Yours are not.

The problems in this thread come right if the user logs in in a different
User ID on the same machine. Yours don't :)

Cheers


Not sure, the OP is speaking about a crash after some time: this
happens also in my case: it crashes when I type the first misspelled
word. Therefore I though that both problems could be related. Maybe
the OP didn't notice that the problem occurs when the spell checker
kicks in.

Ok I'll begin a new thread with a clearer description but I am somehow
conviced that the problems could be related :)

Thanks

Matteo

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Don't wait for your answer, click here: http://www.word.mvps.org/

Please reply in the group. Please do NOT email me unless I ask you to.

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McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
http://jgmcghie.fastmail.com.au/
Sydney, Australia. S33°53'34.20 E151°14'54.50
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]
 

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