word to html

[chetville]

Version: 2008
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Processor: Intel

I would like to put together a Newsletter in Word, then convert it to html so that I can upload it to our Website- otherwise it is incompatible. Does anyone know if this can be done in Word, or do I need to buy Publisher.
(First post- thanks in advance)

 

[Jim Gordon MVP]

Version: 2008
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Processor: Intel

I would like to put together a Newsletter in Word, then convert it to html so that I can upload it to our Website- otherwise it is incompatible. Does anyone know if this can be done in Word, or do I need to buy Publisher.
(First post- thanks in advance)

Hi,

Yes, Word can do this. Use File > Save As and where it says Format click
the bar and then choose Web Page.

You'll probably see follow up comments in this thread from the
anti-automation crowd that will bellow thoughts about how bad it is to
not have home-made HTML. My take on this is that if you're not too
prissy to eat store-bought bread then Word's Web Page feature is
probably OK for you.

-Jim

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[CyberTaz]

Aw, c'mon Jim...

<snip>

You'll probably see follow up comments in this thread from the
anti-automation crowd that will bellow thoughts about how bad it is to
not have home-made HTML. My take on this is that if you're not too
prissy to eat store-bought bread then Word's Web Page feature is
probably OK for you.

<snip>

The considerations are more based on Word's limitations as a web tool & the
round-tripping code which makes the files larger than they need to be as
well as complicating things if the files are to be assimilated into a web
site developed using other web design software.

Even I don't argue Word's convenience & simplicity for designing personal
web pages

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

 

[Phillip Jones]

Aw, c'mon Jim...

<snip>

<snip>

The considerations are more based on Word's limitations as a web tool & the
round-tripping code which makes the files larger than they need to be as
well as complicating things if the files are to be assimilated into a web
site developed using other web design software.

Even I don't argue Word's convenience & simplicity for designing personal
web pages

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

Jim is going to be shocked.

I'm actually going to agree with You and Bob on this. With a Caveat.

The caveat is if it just a very simple website with not very many Pages
and does not use any supper Fancy stuff.

If its a basic membership newsletter like you would normally print and
send out to members even with a very few images sprinkled in That have
at it. Just make sure when you up load the items all components are
uploaded to same directory or images and such will be broken.

The Caveat:

If however, its going to be very complex Then a web design application
will be needed. At the Top end is DreamWeaver.

*Avoid at all cost the use of FrontPage*. Even if some one offers you a
million Dollars to try it. It never has, and never will create Pages for
anything other than IE to use. You need to have the greatest diversity
in Audience. There are other Browsers on the Market besides IE.

Safari (Mac and Windows)
Mozilla (Mac and Windows) (SeaMonkey/FireFox)
OmniWeb
Opera
iCab (for Mac)

then for folks that have Linux or Unix machines They are others still.

So you need to use a Design Program that writes pages to W3C
specifications. If you do then any browser even IE can view the pages.
I'm sure there are other programs besides DreamWeaver, that can do the
Job on a mac and probably tons more if you use a windows box.
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<http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Harris/default.htm>
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[John McGhie]

Hi Phillip:

On 7/09/08 2:07 AM, in article [email protected],

Chetville will get on just fine with Word for saving his newsletter

*Avoid at all cost the use of FrontPage*. Even if some one offers you a
million Dollars to try it. It never has, and never will create Pages for
anything other than IE to use. You need to have the greatest diversity
in Audience. There are other Browsers on the Market besides IE.

Ummm... A while since you had any experience with FrontPage, is it Phillip
Have you EVER used it?

FrontPage is no longer sold. And it never did run on a Mac, so the original
poster is unlikely to be using it!!

The new version is Expression Web, and it is a much more powerful and
sophisticated application: probably more powerful in some respects than
Dreamweaver.

And you can code to any style sheet or browser you like in it

Cheers

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[Phillip Jones]

Well I did try it out on a PC a long time ago. Plus all the horror
stories on the internet. Thanks for letting me know of it demise.

I've always owned personally Apple products but when I was working I had
to work on anything

PC's (DOS/Windows)

Commodore
TI
Epson Equity
Apple I and II, Apple IIc
Mac's
Even Radio Shack Color Computers.

Hi Phillip:

On 7/09/08 2:07 AM, in article [email protected],

Chetville will get on just fine with Word for saving his newsletter


Ummm... A while since you had any experience with FrontPage, is it Phillip
Have you EVER used it?

FrontPage is no longer sold. And it never did run on a Mac, so the original
poster is unlikely to be using it!!

The new version is Expression Web, and it is a much more powerful and
sophisticated application: probably more powerful in some respects than
Dreamweaver.

And you can code to any style sheet or browser you like in it

Cheers

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Phillip M. Jones, CET |LIFE MEMBER: VPEA ETA-I, NESDA, ISCET, Sterling
616 Liberty Street |Who's Who. PHONE:276-632-5045, FAX:276-632-0868
Martinsville Va 24112 |[email protected], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet
------------------------------------------------------------------------

If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!

mailto[email protected]

<http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/default.htm>
<http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/90th_Birthday/index.htm>
<http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Fulcher/default.html>
<http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Harris/default.htm>
<http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Jones/default.htm>

<http://www.vpea.org>

 

[Jim Gordon MVP]

Hi Phillip:

On 7/09/08 2:07 AM, in article [email protected],

Chetville will get on just fine with Word for saving his newsletter


Ummm... A while since you had any experience with FrontPage, is it Phillip
Have you EVER used it?

FrontPage is no longer sold. And it never did run on a Mac, so the original
poster is unlikely to be using it!!

The new version is Expression Web, and it is a much more powerful and
sophisticated application: probably more powerful in some respects than
Dreamweaver.

And you can code to any style sheet or browser you like in it

Cheers

Hi

Never say "never" and always avoid "always."

FrontPage version 1 was made for both Mac and PC. That's the version
that created HTML that purists consider poison.

By the time FrontPage version 3 rolled out, MacroMedia and Microsoft's
products were nearly identical. Both products came complete with a
snotty capability to "fix" Word's HTML. They were so much alike I sat in
on a MacroMedia workshop for DreamWeaver and was able to follow along
the entire workshop using FrontPage click for click with only a couple
places where I had to click something else. The two products were so
much alike I could not tell who copied from whom the most. Both products
made fine HTML.

Then Adobe bought MacroMedia, and DreamWeaver is still great. Microsoft
migrated to Expression - targeting two different groups of HTML makers:
designers and developers.

But still, the third part of the HTML creating crowd: non-designers and
non-developers, are well served by the Office products' Save As Web Page
feature. It's quick and easy without having to worry about learning a
markup language.

I think Chetville is in the third group, and I am glad that we all agree
that Word's HTML capabilities are the right thing for Chetville.

-Jim

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Mac MVP

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[chetville]

Dear group, I am overwhelmed with the breadth of your answers and appreciate them all. Jim, I downloaded a Newsletter template, used File>Save as, where it has 'save as type' I selected> web page (.htm). A few things, text boxes and such moved a bit from the original template, but I think it is something I can work in, then send off to our webmaster to upload to our website. Does this follow what you were talking about, for I would like to work on it in its html form so that it won't change when it is uploaded to the site. And Jim, yes I definitely belong to the third group of non-designers and developers- I'm just trying to muddle my way through and present a good newsletter, with some creativity. Again, thanks to you all, and any further suggestions are always welcome- and what a welcome it has been. Jim (yep, another one)

 

[Jim Gordon MVP]

Dear group, I am overwhelmed with the breadth of your answers and appreciate them all. Jim, I downloaded a Newsletter template, used File>Save as, where it has 'save as type' I selected> web page (.htm). A few things, text boxes and such moved a bit from the original template, but I think it is something I can work in, then send off to our webmaster to upload to our website. Does this follow what you were talking about, for I would like to work on it in its html form so that it won't change when it is uploaded to the site. And Jim, yes I definitely belong to the third group of non-designers and developers- I'm just trying to muddle my way through and present a good newsletter, with some creativity. Again, thanks to you all, and any further suggestions are always welcome- and what a welcome it has been. Jim (yep, another one)

Hi,

In Word, if you go to the View menu and choose Web Layout you'll get a
rough idea of how Word's output might look on in a web browser.

Keep in mind that every web browser renders HTML differently, so you're
unlikely to get an exact replication of what you see in Word from web
browsers.

-Jim

--
Jim Gordon
Mac MVP

MVPs are independent experts who are not affiliated with Microsoft.


Visit my blog
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[Phillip Jones]

Hi,

In Word, if you go to the View menu and choose Web Layout you'll get a
rough idea of how Word's output might look on in a web browser.

Keep in mind that every web browser renders HTML differently, so you're
unlikely to get an exact replication of what you see in Word from web
browsers.

-Jim

Hey Jim that brings up a question.

Okay its a Given That this HTML rendering in Office 2003, 2007 (PC is
using a/the Internet Explorer engine.


But on Mac The Latest version of IE for Mac 5.2.3 which going 6-7 years
old now. If you used Mac coded IE engine everything would be totally
wrong by today's W3C Standards and would be lucky to view. Plus it would
be a Massive security risk.

What rendering engine is used on a Mac. Safari (webkit) or FF (Gecko
based).
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Phillip M. Jones, CET |LIFE MEMBER: VPEA ETA-I, NESDA, ISCET, Sterling
616 Liberty Street |Who's Who. PHONE:276-632-5045, FAX:276-632-0868
Martinsville Va 24112 |[email protected], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet
------------------------------------------------------------------------

If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!

mailto[email protected]

<http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/default.htm>
<http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/90th_Birthday/index.htm>
<http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Fulcher/default.html>
<http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Harris/default.htm>
<http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/Jones/default.htm>

<http://www.vpea.org>

 

[Jim Gordon MVP]

Hey Jim that brings up a question.

Okay its a Given That this HTML rendering in Office 2003, 2007 (PC is
using a/the Internet Explorer engine.


But on Mac The Latest version of IE for Mac 5.2.3 which going 6-7 years
old now. If you used Mac coded IE engine everything would be totally
wrong by today's W3C Standards and would be lucky to view. Plus it would
be a Massive security risk.

What rendering engine is used on a Mac. Safari (webkit) or FF (Gecko
based).

Hi,

The real intent of Word's Save As HTML feature was to provide a way for
everyone to save a Word document on the web and share it. Any web
browser should render it acceptably, but if you saved the web page and
open it in Microsoft Word, then Word would render it perfectly.

Mac IE should not be used. It has not had a security update in years,
so it is not a safe choice.

If you have Microsoft Word 2004, then you can use the web toolbar to
open Microsoft Word created web pages, and they will turn out real nice.
Word 2008 users have to save the web page to the local computer then use
File > Open in Word to get the best rendering. I think the open web page
feature was removed from Word 2008.

I don't think any current web browser will do a terrible job with Word's
HTML, but I wouldn't expect any browser to render exactly as Microsoft
Word will.

-Jim

--
Jim Gordon
Mac MVP

MVPs are independent experts who are not affiliated with Microsoft.


Visit my blog
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[John McGhie]

Hi Jim:

Never say "never" and always avoid "always."

FrontPage version 1 was made for both Mac and PC. That's the version
that created HTML that purists consider poison.

{Blush!} Forgot about those

Cheers

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John McGhie, Microsoft MVP, Word and Word:Mac
Sydney, Australia. mailto:[email protected]

 

[John McGhie]

Hi Chetville:

Glad to hear you have it all working for you!

You might consider trying to live without "Text Boxes" in working with HTML.
They don't "exist" in normal HTML and they will misbehave

Tables will usually achieve the same result, and they won't develop a mind
of their own.

Call back if you need anything more.

Cheers

Dear group, I am overwhelmed with the breadth of your answers and appreciate
them all. Jim, I downloaded a Newsletter template, used File>Save as, where it
has 'save as type' I selected> web page (.htm). A few things, text boxes and
such moved a bit from the original template, but I think it is something I can
work in, then send off to our webmaster to upload to our website. Does this
follow what you were talking about, for I would like to work on it in its html
form so that it won't change when it is uploaded to the site. And Jim, yes I
definitely belong to the third group of non-designers and developers- I'm just
trying to muddle my way through and present a good newsletter, with some
creativity. Again, thanks to you all, and any further suggestions are always
welcome- and what a welcome it has been. Jim (yep, another one)

--
Don't wait for your answer, click here: http://www.word.mvps.org/

Please reply in the group. Please do NOT email me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie, Microsoft MVP, Word and Word:Mac
Sydney, Australia. mailto:[email protected]