Word X crashs at startup

[Microsoft News Server]

Hi,

Word X crashs each time at startup after Office X 10.1.4 and 10.1.5 updates
(on Emac with Mac OS 10.3.1).

Excel, PowerPoint and Entourage run with no problem.

Before updating, Word runs perfectly.

.... ??? ...

Have you any suggestions ?

Thanks in advance.

Phil.

 

[Elliott Roper]

Hi,

Word X crashs each time at startup after Office X 10.1.4 and 10.1.5 updates
(on Emac with Mac OS 10.3.1).

Excel, PowerPoint and Entourage run with no problem.

Before updating, Word runs perfectly.

... ??? ...

Have you any suggestions ?

Yes, I have one, but not a very helpful one. Could you please change
the name you post under? I and many others have become used to deleting
"Swen" virus e-mails claiming to come from names like "Microsoft
...server". I looked at your message because I wanted to see if someone
had succeeded in posting a swen to a non-binary newsgroup.

I hope for your sake that philipp...hotmail is not your real address,
or you too will have more swen than you know what to do with.

Swen appears to learn its targets from news postings. As a frequent
usenet poster, I was getting over 1000 swens per day at its peak. After
munging my news 'address', and probably because swen is slowly dying
anyway, it is now down to 100 per day. Enough to make reading mail by
mobile phone completely unaffordable[1]. In the last 24 hours I got 300
junk mails totalling 13MB, of which 85 swens accounted for 12MB. At its
peak Swen was eating 20% of my internet bandwidth.

One of the reasons I use Mac OS X is that I don't want the constant
barrage of viruses to interfere with my work. Yet every day, I have to
spend time and money managing my mail server and clients to counter the
effects of those who did not make such a wise choice.

I am getting pretty damn sick of it.

1. OK, there are workarounds, but they are a royal pain in the arse.
IMAP is too unwieldy. I refuse to do server side junk filtering because
the cost of false positives is too high, I do sometimes leave a
sacrificial Mac running at home filtering and forwarding the likely
good ones to me on the road, but why oh why should I be bearing the
cost of all those misconfigured misdesigned machines connected to the
net? If you can fine people for parking offences, why can't they be
prosecuted for allowing an infected machine to remain on the internet?

Hmm. I have made jokes before about my medication. Maybe I really do
something to chill me out?

 

[Clive Huggan]

Elliott,

Anything 2002 from Coonawarra, Langhorne Creek, McLaren Vale, Barossa, Clare
Valley.

(And I get fed up with 5 a day!)

Cheers,

Clive

Hi,

Word X crashs each time at startup after Office X 10.1.4 and 10.1.5 updates
(on Emac with Mac OS 10.3.1).

Excel, PowerPoint and Entourage run with no problem.

Before updating, Word runs perfectly.

... ??? ...

Have you any suggestions ?

Yes, I have one, but not a very helpful one. Could you please change
the name you post under? I and many others have become used to deleting
"Swen" virus e-mails claiming to come from names like "Microsoft
..server". I looked at your message because I wanted to see if someone
had succeeded in posting a swen to a non-binary newsgroup.

I hope for your sake that philipp...hotmail is not your real address,
or you too will have more swen than you know what to do with.

Swen appears to learn its targets from news postings. As a frequent
usenet poster, I was getting over 1000 swens per day at its peak. After
munging my news 'address', and probably because swen is slowly dying
anyway, it is now down to 100 per day. Enough to make reading mail by
mobile phone completely unaffordable[1]. In the last 24 hours I got 300
junk mails totalling 13MB, of which 85 swens accounted for 12MB. At its
peak Swen was eating 20% of my internet bandwidth.

One of the reasons I use Mac OS X is that I don't want the constant
barrage of viruses to interfere with my work. Yet every day, I have to
spend time and money managing my mail server and clients to counter the
effects of those who did not make such a wise choice.

I am getting pretty damn sick of it.

1. OK, there are workarounds, but they are a royal pain in the arse.
IMAP is too unwieldy. I refuse to do server side junk filtering because
the cost of false positives is too high, I do sometimes leave a
sacrificial Mac running at home filtering and forwarding the likely
good ones to me on the road, but why oh why should I be bearing the
cost of all those misconfigured misdesigned machines connected to the
net? If you can fine people for parking offences, why can't they be
prosecuted for allowing an infected machine to remain on the internet?

Hmm. I have made jokes before about my medication. Maybe I really do
something to chill me out?

 

[Elliott Roper]

Elliott,

Anything 2002 from Coonawarra, Langhorne Creek, McLaren Vale, Barossa, Clare
Valley.

(And I get fed up with 5 a day!)

Cheers,

Clive

That cheered me up. That *exact* medication has caused quite a few of
the wilder Elliott posts. (Here in the outer reaches of frozen
Pommyland, Wolfie's 2002 Shiraz Cab Sav is on the supermarket shelves
at quite decent prices. It's currently the quaffer of choice - but I
can only manage one a day)

PS I recommended Bend Word... to a colleague in Brussels who used to
fly a desk in the RAAF. I told him he had to salute before opening it
;-) He is already a convert - We have a template exchange program in
full swing.

 

[Beth Rosengard]

Hi Phil,

Now that you've been sufficiently entertained by Elliott and Clive ,
let's talk about your problem.

First thing to do is repair permissions: Go to Macintosh
HD/Applications/Utilities. Open up Disk Utility. Select
your hard disk, then click the First Aid tab. Click the button to "Repair
Disk Permissions".

If that doesn't do it then you may have a font problem. See this article
for troubleshooting tips: <http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=313535>

Hope this helps.

--
Beth Rosengard
Mac MVP

Mac Word FAQ: <http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/WordMac/index.htm>
Entourage Help Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/toc.html>

 

[J.E. McGimpsey]

Swen appears to learn its targets from news postings. As a frequent
usenet poster, I was getting over 1000 swens per day at its peak. After
munging my news 'address', and probably because swen is slowly dying
anyway, it is now down to 100 per day. Enough to make reading mail by
mobile phone completely unaffordable[1]. In the last 24 hours I got 300
junk mails totalling 13MB, of which 85 swens accounted for 12MB. At its
peak Swen was eating 20% of my internet bandwidth.

Yes, newsgroup postings (from random groups) is a vector for swen
propagation. At the peak, I was getting over 1000 messages per hour.

Two suggestions: 1) Your ISP may provide filtering. The owner of
mvps.org does, and that has cut my swen load considerably, even
though I've not spam-trapped my address.

2) Get a spam-filter. I use a heuristics-based application
(SpamSieve, shareware, http://c-command.com/spamsieve/) that
catches about 90% of the spam that makes it past the ISP. Works
with Erage, Eudora, Mail.app, is address-book aware, has white and
black lists, and automatic training. There are other packages out
there as well.

 

[J.E. McGimpsey]

Anything 2002 from Coonawarra, Langhorne Creek, McLaren Vale, Barossa, Clare
Valley.

(And I get fed up with 5 a day!)

Hmm...I've found that I get a lot *less* fed up (with anything)
after 5...

 

[Elliott Roper]

Swen appears to learn its targets from news postings. As a frequent
usenet poster, I was getting over 1000 swens per day at its peak. After
munging my news 'address', and probably because swen is slowly dying
anyway, it is now down to 100 per day. Enough to make reading mail by
mobile phone completely unaffordable[1]. In the last 24 hours I got 300
junk mails totalling 13MB, of which 85 swens accounted for 12MB. At its
peak Swen was eating 20% of my internet bandwidth.

Yes, newsgroup postings (from random groups) is a vector for swen
propagation. At the peak, I was getting over 1000 messages per hour.

Two suggestions: 1) Your ISP may provide filtering. The owner of
mvps.org does, and that has cut my swen load considerably, even
though I've not spam-trapped my address.

2) Get a spam-filter. I use a heuristics-based application
(SpamSieve, shareware, http://c-command.com/spamsieve/) that
catches about 90% of the spam that makes it past the ISP. Works
with Erage, Eudora, Mail.app, is address-book aware, has white and
black lists, and automatic training. There are other packages out
there as well.

Beeen there, done that, got the t-shirt.

I'm at the point where I'd back a move to make leaving an unprotected
PC on the net a criminal offence. If the cops could fiine you for
getting infected and passing on spam, viruses and worms, then people
would make better purchasing and system management decisions.

My ISP has already started. In the T&C's, there is a clause that gives
them the right to probe our subnet and if they ever find an open relay,
they may disconnect me without warning.

If they were able to go further, and disconnect every swen-spreader,
I'd pay extra,

I

 

[J.E. McGimpsey]

Beeen there, done that, got the t-shirt.

I'm at the point where I'd back a move to make leaving an unprotected
PC on the net a criminal offence. If the cops could fiine you for
getting infected and passing on spam, viruses and worms, then people
would make better purchasing and system management decisions.

My ISP has already started. In the T&C's, there is a clause that gives
them the right to probe our subnet and if they ever find an open relay,
they may disconnect me without warning.

If they were able to go further, and disconnect every swen-spreader,
I'd pay extra

Can't help but think that a government solution is doomed to fail -
if I spam you from the US, do your courts have jurisdiction?

Most ISPs already have T&Cs that allow them to disconnect a
swen-spreader. The problem is in convincing them its in their best
interest. Unfortunately, a p.o.'d customer is perceived to be more
likely to switch carriers than fix his/her machine.