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[bohnz]

Version: 2008
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Processor: Intel

I was a Mac user from 1989-1999, my wife bought a PC when my Mac finally died. Now 2008 I've gone back to Mac, I bought Office for Mac thinking it would be as good as Word 2008 was on my PC. Initially it was, until I had to do homework. I am using Taraubian citations and I almost wish I hadn't made the leap back to Mac. Citations were a piece of cake on my PC, I am spending more time setting up my papers than actually writing them (just the opposite of my PC). Is there any hope of a release that will make this process as simple as it was on my PC? I'm not the happy Mac user I once was....

Bill

 

[CyberTaz]

Hi Bill -

I'm not the authority on citations around here, but since this isn't really
related to the other posts in this totally perverted thread [which should
have been closed months ago] how about posting as a NEW message with a
citations-oriented Subject. That will more likely catch the attention of
those who may be able to offer assistance. Be sure to provide a thorough
description of what the trouble is - perhaps there is a solution to the
dilemma that has escaped your notice

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

 

[bohnz]

Bob,
Part of the issue is that in Word for my PC, I opened the references tab and entered the information for endnotes and footnotes. That was it, when I needed workes cited, that was there too, no problem. Literally, no thought involved and it could not have been easier. The fact that I have to go to a message board for Mac to discover how to do this blows me away. It nowhere near as user friendly as my PC was, if it was, I wouldn't be here. Don't get me wrong, there is LOTS I love about my Mac right now. However, I'm wondering if there is a better word processor geared towards students.

Bill

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

Plenty of simpler word processors, but none that offer citations built-in.

I haven't looked at citations in WinWord, but it should be basically the
same in MacWord. You open the references tab (View | Toolbox |
Citations), enter the information (click the Plus for a new source), put
the cursor in the doc where you want the info, and double-click the
citation to enter it at the cursor location.

You'll need to explain in more detail, exactly what you did, what you
wanted to happen, and what happened instead, to get more help than that.

And in the future, PLEASE start a new thread with a more SPECIFIC
subject line. By using "Word", your thread merges into every other
thread that used "Word" as the subject line, in the way I am viewing the
forums.

 

[CyberTaz]

Ah, you found this one after all I can't think of a better source on
this but I was afraid you'd miss the post in this funky, decrepit &
perverted thread... Did you just decide to go slumming? ;-)

In all honesty, the Source Manager in 2007 is more robust than what's
provided in 2008. You can Sort the list of sources, search it and access
multiple Master List files. The Citations feature also offers more citation
styles than the Mac version has.

OTOH, the available fields per source in the Create Source dialog is
significantly more extensive & directly available in the Mac version (unless
you choose to "Show All Bibliography Fields" by way of a checkbox in 2007).
Even so the dialog window doesn't resize adequately so there's a
considerable amount of scrolling to be done, whereas the Mac's layout
displays all fields at once.

Other than that, accessibility & functionality is actually better in 2008
(IMHO) - you can leave the current source list right at your fingertips
without having to navigate back to the References tab because you can work
back & forth between the doc & the Citations Palette much more readily. I
think adding new citations is much more direct than in the PC version too.

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

Ah, you found this one after all I can't think of a better source on
this but I was afraid you'd miss the post in this funky, decrepit &
perverted thread... Did you just decide to go slumming? ;-)

Thunderbird dropped me in it, though some mysterious alchemy I don't
understand or trust. But I often read unthreaded and sorted by date
anyhow, so I likely would have caught it.

Thanks for the extra info on Citations in 2007---though none of those
differences add up to "no thought involved" so I am still mystified by
why the OP is having problems. Maybe he can't find how to insert the
Bibliography?

 

[randomax64]

Personally.. I want to THANK YOU very much for this information. I am
also writing zillions of reference & cited papers. THIS NEW (to me)
feature is going to be SOOO helpful!!

Thank you!
Maggie



On Aug 2, 11:55 am, Daiya Mitchell <[email protected]>
wrote:

 

[bohnz]

I'm sorry that I posted this here, I wrote out of frustration. I was able to get it to do what I needed. The answer was simple, anyone having a similar problem, email me at (e-mail address removed) and I'll tell you.

Don't freak out like I did if you're coming from a PC. It will do works cited just as regular Word does, it's just in a different location.

Bill

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

But you aren't willing to just post your discovery, so that anyone
searching can find it without having to email and wait?

If you had made it clear that you couldn't figure out how to insert the
bibliography/works cited (which *seems* to be the issue), someone would
have told you click on Document Elements, then Bibliography, straight
off (make sure in Print Layout view first). But if you don't actually
describe the problem you are having, no one can help.

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

Glad to help.

If you are writing zillions of papers (grad student?) you may find that
the built-in Word feature is not powerful enough, and you may want to
investigate Bookends and possibly EndNote.

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

Phillip, I wrote "View | Toolbox | Citations" right in the message you
quoted back.

Two meanings of reference are confusing the issue here--"references" as
another word for cited sources and synonymous with citations, versus
Reference Tools. Citations are not part of Reference Tools.

Also, it's not identical in 2004 and 2008. 2004 doesn't have citations
at all. In 2008, both Reference Tools and Citations are two of the six
panes in the Toolbox. I believe the pic you included is from 2004.

[deleted pic]

Okay where the Citations? identical on 2008 and 2004

Plenty of simpler word processors, but none that offer citations built-in.

I haven't looked at citations in WinWord, but it should be basically the
same in MacWord. You open the references tab (View | Toolbox |
Citations), enter the information (click the Plus for a new source), put
the cursor in the doc where you want the info, and double-click the
citation to enter it at the cursor location.

 

[Phillip Jones]

Okay. Sounds reasonable.

Phillip, I wrote "View | Toolbox | Citations" right in the message you
quoted back.

Two meanings of reference are confusing the issue here--"references" as
another word for cited sources and synonymous with citations, versus
Reference Tools. Citations are not part of Reference Tools.

Also, it's not identical in 2004 and 2008. 2004 doesn't have citations
at all. In 2008, both Reference Tools and Citations are two of the six
panes in the Toolbox. I believe the pic you included is from 2004.

[deleted pic]

Okay where the Citations? identical on 2008 and 2004

Plenty of simpler word processors, but none that offer citations built-in.

I haven't looked at citations in WinWord, but it should be basically the
same in MacWord. You open the references tab (View | Toolbox |
Citations), enter the information (click the Plus for a new source), put
the cursor in the doc where you want the info, and double-click the
citation to enter it at the cursor location.

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