Wrapping the HTML pages

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DSG

I've tried a few times to set the HTML page to wrap. Some of the lines are
so long that when proofing, I have to copy them out to Notepad to see the
ending. Is this not possible in FP 2000?
Windows XP SP2 and FrontPage 2000 integrated into Office.
 
C

Chuck Davis

DSG said:
I've tried a few times to set the HTML page to wrap. Some of the lines are
so long that when proofing, I have to copy them out to Notepad to see the
ending. Is this not possible in FP 2000?
Windows XP SP2 and FrontPage 2000 integrated into Office.
Use tables?
 
A

Andrew Murray

Shift+Enter gives you a new line (the <br> tag).

Don't think of FP as a word processor - it does not function the same way,
and won't CR when it hits the right margin, since in effect there are no
margins in HTML.



Enter gives a new paragraph (the <p> tag)
 
D

DSG

Right inside the HTML pages? Didn't know you could do that. Is that common
practice? I build all my normal pages in tables.
dsg
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"Chuck Davis" <newsgroup at anthemwebs dot com> wrote in message
:
: : > I've tried a few times to set the HTML page to wrap. Some of the lines
are
: > so long that when proofing, I have to copy them out to Notepad to see
the
: > ending. Is this not possible in FP 2000?
: > Windows XP SP2 and FrontPage 2000 integrated into Office.
: >
: >
: Use tables?
:
:
 
R

Ronx

Do you mean in HTML view?
Tools->Page Options->Code Formatting (this is from memory, wording may
vary)
Set the right margin to 90 characters - this will force a new line (not the
same as Word-Wrap) at 90 characters.

Upgrade to FP2003, or try Expressions Web Designer (this is a beta, so
avoid it on a production PC), which do have real word wrap options for
code/HTML view.
 
M

Murray

I wouldn't use Shift-enter to style text-heavy lines. Let the browser wrap
them the way it wants within the container. If you don't want the lines any
longer than a certain width, then put them into a table with that width.

Shift-enter will make your lines look very messy with the browser viewport
expands and contracts.
 
D

DSG

Yes, Ronx, I meant in HTML view. This is where I have tried this before.
So I have just gone back again, using your instructions, the difference
being where you say Code Formatting, mine says HTML Source. But the option
is there for Right margin. I entered 90 for characters, but nothing
happened. I saved the page, though the window didn't suggest the page needed
to be saved, and still nothing happened.

I exited out, restarted FrontPage, came back. and took a look. The change
hadn't worked, but going to other pages, and opening the code formatting
dialog, 90 was registered for all those pages.

I have FrontPage 2003 on another machine, but have not checked to see if it
works. I guess I'll keep popping it into Notepad when the code is longer
than seven windows wide. Thanks, anyway.
DSG
..................
: Do you mean in HTML view?
: Tools->Page Options->Code Formatting (this is from memory, wording may
: vary)
: Set the right margin to 90 characters - this will force a new line (not
the
: same as Word-Wrap) at 90 characters.
:
: Upgrade to FP2003, or try Expressions Web Designer (this is a beta, so
: avoid it on a production PC), which do have real word wrap options for
: code/HTML view.
: --
: Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
: Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
: FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
:
: : > I've tried a few times to set the HTML page to wrap. Some of the lines
: > are
: > so long that when proofing, I have to copy them out to Notepad to see
the
: > ending. Is this not possible in FP 2000?
: > Windows XP SP2 and FrontPage 2000 integrated into Office.
: >
: >
:
:
 
S

Stefan B Rusynko

It only affects new pages
Open your page in code view and right click to reformat html

PS
html formatting (w/ line wraps) can affect your page rendering in browsers

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| Yes, Ronx, I meant in HTML view. This is where I have tried this before.
| So I have just gone back again, using your instructions, the difference
| being where you say Code Formatting, mine says HTML Source. But the option
| is there for Right margin. I entered 90 for characters, but nothing
| happened. I saved the page, though the window didn't suggest the page needed
| to be saved, and still nothing happened.
|
| I exited out, restarted FrontPage, came back. and took a look. The change
| hadn't worked, but going to other pages, and opening the code formatting
| dialog, 90 was registered for all those pages.
|
| I have FrontPage 2003 on another machine, but have not checked to see if it
| works. I guess I'll keep popping it into Notepad when the code is longer
| than seven windows wide. Thanks, anyway.
| DSG
| .................
| | : Do you mean in HTML view?
| : Tools->Page Options->Code Formatting (this is from memory, wording may
| : vary)
| : Set the right margin to 90 characters - this will force a new line (not
| the
| : same as Word-Wrap) at 90 characters.
| :
| : Upgrade to FP2003, or try Expressions Web Designer (this is a beta, so
| : avoid it on a production PC), which do have real word wrap options for
| : code/HTML view.
| : --
| : Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| : Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| : FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| :
| : | : > I've tried a few times to set the HTML page to wrap. Some of the lines
| : > are
| : > so long that when proofing, I have to copy them out to Notepad to see
| the
| : > ending. Is this not possible in FP 2000?
| : > Windows XP SP2 and FrontPage 2000 integrated into Office.
| : >
| : >
| :
| :
|
|
 
D

DSG

There was not that option on the context menu, but inside the Page Options
we get the option:
When saving file(s)
.........Preserve existing HTML
.........Reformat using the rules below.

I have always kept it on "Preserve..." because I only know basic coding and
didn't know what would happen if I selected "Reformat..." In FrontPage HELP
"reformat" is only an override for automatic HTML preservation. It gives no
other information.

So, at any rate, line wraps may cause unexpected problems for viewers? Then
is not such a good idea?

I think I should transfer myself into the next grade and learn more HTML and
CSS. Creating a brand new web should be a good project. I will look around
for a step-by-step tutorial which is a little more advanced than FrontPage
2000 "Getting Started" That was a good tutorial because it took nothing for
granted. My basic HTML was from "Creating Web Pages with HTML" from Cliff's
Notes, so I have a way to gone.
DSG
..............................
: It only affects new pages
: Open your page in code view and right click to reformat html
:
: PS
: html formatting (w/ line wraps) can affect your page rendering in browsers
:
: --
:
: _____________________________________________
: SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
: "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
: To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
: _____________________________________________
:
:
: | Yes, Ronx, I meant in HTML view. This is where I have tried this before.
: | So I have just gone back again, using your instructions, the difference
: | being where you say Code Formatting, mine says HTML Source. But the
option
: | is there for Right margin. I entered 90 for characters, but nothing
: | happened. I saved the page, though the window didn't suggest the page
needed
: | to be saved, and still nothing happened.
: |
: | I exited out, restarted FrontPage, came back. and took a look. The
change
: | hadn't worked, but going to other pages, and opening the code
formatting
: | dialog, 90 was registered for all those pages.
: |
: | I have FrontPage 2003 on another machine, but have not checked to see if
it
: | works. I guess I'll keep popping it into Notepad when the code is longer
: | than seven windows wide. Thanks, anyway.
: | DSG
: | .................
: | : | : Do you mean in HTML view?
: | : Tools->Page Options->Code Formatting (this is from memory, wording
may
: | : vary)
: | : Set the right margin to 90 characters - this will force a new line
(not
: | the
: | : same as Word-Wrap) at 90 characters.
: | :
: | : Upgrade to FP2003, or try Expressions Web Designer (this is a beta, so
: | : avoid it on a production PC), which do have real word wrap options for
: | : code/HTML view.
: | : --
: | : Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
: | : Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
: | : FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
: | :
: | : : | : > I've tried a few times to set the HTML page to wrap. Some of the
lines
: | : > are
: | : > so long that when proofing, I have to copy them out to Notepad to
see
: | the
: | : > ending. Is this not possible in FP 2000?
: | : > Windows XP SP2 and FrontPage 2000 integrated into Office.
: | : >
: | : >
: | :
: | :
: |
: |
:
:
 

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