Yet still more publishing problems

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Dean Roddey

I have a publishing problem that is about to make a blood vessel in my
forehead pop and kill me, so hopefully someone here can save my life... The
details are:

1. Using FTP to publish. Can't use FPE
2. The problem has persisted from FP 2000 to now FP 2002
3. I have zero other problems with any other net access apps and FTP works
fine
4. I'm on DSL and have enabled passive mode FTP
5. The web is medium sized
6. Happens whether doing unconditional full publish or publishing changes,
and whether using web or file stamps as the criterial for incremental
publish.
7. Happens even if no other outgoing traffic from my network, so it can't be
interference of any sort.

Basically, I get one of two results. It will run for some number of files,
then it either either hang and then give me what is probably a bogus error
since they are all over the place (can't get cwd, directory doesn't exist,
etc...) or it will go into a freak out feedback loop where it's obviously
sending packets back and forth at a very rapid rate (pegs my DSL modem
activity lights) but not actually doing anything and then it times out after
about 30 seconds or so of that. If I restart it, it'll go forward again for
some number of files and then do the same thing. If I stop and start the app
before restarting it seems to do a little better the next time, but that may
not be true.

It happens consistently and has been doing so for the last year, and makes
use of FP a serious problem for me. Very occasionally it'll do almost a full
update, so it's got to be something sporadic, but mostly it'll get through
maybe a 25 to 50 files and then has one of the two problems indicated. It
almost always dies on a gif file, though not always. I've upgraded my
LinkSys DSL router to the latest firmware just incase, though I saw no
reports of anyone who seemed to suspect that as an issue.

So, I'm a little confused. Given that restarting it makes it keep going,
clearly any errors reported were bogus. But since I have zero problems with
any program but FP, and I FTP files all the time with other FTP apps and
they never fail, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with my ISP's FTP
server. But, since the problem existed in 2000 and now in 2002 I can't
imagine that such an obvious bug would exist in FP for that long.

I'm at a loss as to who to point the finger at, but it clearly seems to have
to be problem in FP of some sort, since it's the only app that has any
problems. I've searched the web and groups and though I see lots of
publishing problems reported, none of them seem to be similar to mine, or
none that I've found.

Any ideas?
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

In some cases you will not be able to use FP to publish via FTP, and the
only solution is to use a 3rd Party FTP application.

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D

Dean Roddey

Is there a reason for that, or is it just a 'FP works in Mysterious Ways'
type of deal?
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

There are just some FTP servers that FP can not connect to or work with,
which is all depending on how the host has configured the FTP server.

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MS KB Quick Links, etc.
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D

Dean Roddey

I find it a little difficult to believe that MS cannot, after all these
years, have created an FTP client that works as well as any freebie FTP
client you can pull off the net, or any number of inexpensive commercial
ones. Given that it advertises FTP upload as a feature, I'd kind of think
that um... you know... it'd like work. If I had any trouble at all with any
other FTP client I'd have some sympathy, but I don't, so I cannot see how
you can blame it on my ISP's FTP server.

If there are settings changes required, tell me what they are and I'll take
it up with my ISP.
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

There are not setting in FP to change. FP works with a basic FTP server
installation, and it depends on the server that the host has installed and
how it is configured. Many of the free FTP applications can connect in a
number of modes, like passive, secure, etc.

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Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
 
R

Ronx

FP versions before FP2003 cannot use FTP in passive mode. If passive mode
is essential either upgrade to FP2003, or use a third party FTP client.
 
S

Stefan B Rusynko

Have you set your FTP publishing correctly
See http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=301553




| I find it a little difficult to believe that MS cannot, after all these
| years, have created an FTP client that works as well as any freebie FTP
| client you can pull off the net, or any number of inexpensive commercial
| ones. Given that it advertises FTP upload as a feature, I'd kind of think
| that um... you know... it'd like work. If I had any trouble at all with any
| other FTP client I'd have some sympathy, but I don't, so I cannot see how
| you can blame it on my ISP's FTP server.
|
| If there are settings changes required, tell me what they are and I'll take
| it up with my ISP.
|
| | > There are just some FTP servers that FP can not connect to or work with,
| > which is all depending on how the host has configured the FTP server.
| >
| > --
| >
| > ==============================================
| > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| >
| > FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
| > MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > ==============================================
| > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >
| > | > > Is there a reason for that, or is it just a 'FP works in Mysterious
| Ways'
| > > type of deal?
| > >
|
|
 
D

Dean Roddey

Yes. As I said, it works somewhat, but just fails often, and on rare
occasions will do a fairly large upload with no problems. If I hadn't gotten
those settings correct, then it wouldn't be working at all.
 
D

Dean Roddey

That's why I asked what those settings are so that I can put them to my ISP
for consideration.
 

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