33,000 extra pages!

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John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]

Hi Christopher:

Well, thank heavens you've found a solution to your problem :)

No, it is by no means straightforward :) An "Endnote/Footnote" internally
is similar to an AutoText. It's a Unicode string in the document's OLE
Objects store.

The paragraph in which it appears contains a "pointer" (expressed as an
auto-numbered "reference" that shows where the note applies). The pointer
is simply a binary number that indicates the offset from the front of the
file at which the note appears.

Whether the notes appear as "footnotes" or "endnotes" is a document property
that tells Word where to compile the results.

OK, that's a bit of an over-simplification, but effectively that's what is
in there.

The results of your fix get my mind turning over. If Pages is turning the
notes into footnotes by varying the document "notes position" property, it
should stay changed when imported into InDesign.

I guess the only thing we can say for sure is that the Word binary format is
notoriously fragile (that's why they are changing to XML). Possibly Pages
and InDesign are doing their transfers in the RTF format. RTF is not as
powerful but it is more robust.

Cheers

A Novel Solution:

Thanks again for all your good help and counsel. I cannot overemphasize how
grateful I am for all the support I got during these trying times.

Sorry too it has taken a few days to post this; however I think it is worth
mentioning in case others find themselves in a similar bind. In the end
Microsoft toolbar inspired a clue: after 'font', 'format', 'table', etc and
before 'help' it has 'Work'. This reminded me that I had Mac's own iWork
software on my computer, which is interactive with Word. Importing the
document into 'Pages' and then exporting it out again into 'Word' (because
the Layout editor doesn't have 'Pages') I got a completly reformatted
document, precisely the one I was hoping to get by Saving as a Web Page, but
didn't, presumably because of the endnotes. This new doc printed without a
hitch and imported into Adobe InDesign without a hiccup. The only catch was
that 'Pages' doesn't do endnotes. All endnotes came out as footnotes. So of
course when exporting back to Word I got footnotes. Now here is the
punchline: when importing into InDesign, the footnotes automatically came out
as endnotes, just as we wanted them. However, when I tried within in 'Word'
to convert footnotes to endnotes, I got a corrupted doc with infinite
pagination again. Go figure. For those who understand the binary constructs
going on in the background, this is probably as straightforward as
understanding a newspaper. For those of us who live in glass houses, however,
it is miraculous as coal changing into a diamond.

Anyway, if you have iWork ('Pages') on a Mac and ever come up with a corrupt
doc in Word, and nothing else works, something in the above might be your
answer. Hope so.

christopher

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